in speechless, her voice seems to be borrowing something from the likes of christina aguilera, combined with an old-timey male vocal effect. every note is huge. the song altogether sounds like splashes of enormity.
― big (surm), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda expected i'd catch more shit for praising redone to the skies upthread. listening to how poor his track on the new usher is - as mostly all his outside work is - i almost want to suspect he does it deliberately just to create the drab landscape he tears up with gaga.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
he'd produced some good trax here and there pre-gaga (kat deluna's "whine up" and "run the show", christina milian's "l.o.v.e.") but i guess circa gaga's emergence realised that the overdone electropinkpound formula was proving rather successful, so just went full-bore on it. (and i blame him for the sundry copyists, too.) haven't heard the usher track but gaga obviously forces redone to up his game - specifically the way the sound of the fame became so ubiquitous probably made them realise that he couldn't get away with repeating his usual formula. the synth madness on "bad romance", esp the shit going on under her first round of rah-rah-ah-ah-ahs, is still astonishingly good.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
still have to mount a defense of "speechless" at some point...
Her career is pretty much unblemished from the standpoint of influence and commercial success from 1982 through 2002; it wasn't until American Life that people started giving her the stinkeye
In Europe, "Ray Of Light" was considered a return to form after two way below-par albums. I know they fared slightly better in the US, but she was largely written off here by the mid 90s.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
1992 Erotica
* Released: October 20, 1992 * Label: Maverick, Sire, Warner Bros.
US: 2Australia: 1Austria: 5Canada: 1France: 10Germany: 5Italy: 3Switzerland: 4UK 2
* World: 5,000,000 * US: 1,890,000 * US: 2× Platinum * CAN: 2× Platinum * AUS: 3× Platinum * UK: 2× Platinum
1994 Bedtime Stories
* Released: October 25, 1994 * Label: Maverick, Sire, Warner Bros.
US: 3Australia: 1Austria: 7Canada: 2France: 7Germany: 4Italy: 7Switzerland: 4UK: 2
* World: 8,000,000 * US: 2,309,000 * US: 3× Platinum * EU: 2× Platinum * CAN: 2× Platinum * UK: Platinum
I can see how going multiplatunum and being top-ten albums across several different European countries could be seen as a sign of her being written off.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
and like, the editing with all the food? i mean . . . why are we focusing on nasty scramble plates covered in syrup in a song about HER CELL PHONE
― big (surm), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 13:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
because she is poisoning people for calling her while she's trying to dance
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 13:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
this response still cracking me up
― big (surm), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
^_^
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
and i know that it's complicatedbut i'm a loser in love, so babyraise a glass to mend all the broken heartsof all my wrecked up friends
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Sunday, 4 April 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
the pure ridiculousness and vocal power behind the line "i don't wanna be friends" in Bad Romance is fucking great
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
tonight i'm not takin no calls cuz i'll be dancin. i'll be dancin
the backing vocals in telelphone are something else: disturbed, big but compressed, luscious like a sea
and props to beyonce for her vocal solo
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Thursday, 8 April 2010 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link
said this in my jukebox review but "telephone" strikes such a chord b/c it's obv not just about escaping yr boyfriend's hassling - it's about escaping these constant, intrusive lines of communication, blackberrys* buzzing and phones ringing, all these demands on your attention which, as wonderful as they are, completely do your head in at times. it rings true because the majority of clubs i've been in seem to have no/limited reception so the club as a place of escape from all of that is something i recognise.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
*it's pluralised like this, right? as is proper noun
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, also, going to the club has always had an "escape" function in pop, that resonates with people, so you tie that in with the specific escape from jealous bothersome nagging boyfriend (which is something people go to the club for, especially with their girlfriends - - - hence why this song has to be a duet with SOMEBODY to really work), and with the escape from texts/Facebook/etc., and "just dance."
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Always as in since 2001?
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
uh what? u think club dancin pop songs started in 2001?
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Lazy zing; I take that back
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
my thought was that the specific 'in da club' conceit is fairly new to urban pop, which is retarded, though I do think it's become lazy pop shorthand like rhyming 'crazy' and 'baby'
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
the club's functioned as a place of escape (and liberation, self-discovery etc) in pop for 30+ years now!
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
and yeah i agree that gaga's tapping into that deliberately, but tying it to a very specifically 2010 thing that people want to escape from is what lends it that extra frisson of recognition
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah! It's a nice, neat maneuver I think.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Lady Gaga a lot, but there's no way I'm going to pay $60 to see her at the fuckin' Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minnesota. Sorry, Stephanie.
― I don't need a bonghit. (ctrl-s), Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
$60 for what exactly?
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
also btw this is maybe kinda obvious but the whole jailbreak, Thelma and Louise story of the video is the perfect blown-up, giant-size version of your best pal calling up and saying "leave that loser at home, let's go dance our troubles away."
Also, also, that little skip-step sashay thing that Gaga does just as she's being let out of prison is basically the funniest thing she's ever done, kills me every time.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
omg YES
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
saw a pair of tickets advertised at face value on a toronto message board; $350 or somesuch. And the loonie is almost at par with the US dollar lately. Feel better? :P
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
$60 for a ticket for a seat in the farthest reaches of the monstrous Xcel Energy Center. Pff, no way.
― I don't need a bonghit. (ctrl-s), Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck that
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
the xcel center is a really good arena though, in terms of sound and viewpoints....the stands are so steep that even the far up seats aren't that bad IMO....i saw tool in the nosebleeds and it was fine
― m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
$60 is too much for me. If it was, like, Kraftwerk, I'd go.
― I don't need a bonghit. (ctrl-s), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Lady Kraga.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Laftgerk.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
bad computer romance
― susan lucci mane (m bison), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― I don't need a bonghit. (ctrl-s), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
By pressing down a special keyIt plays a little melody
(cue opening shots of "Bad Romance" vid)
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
really disappointed in Alejandro as next single
― who the fuck knows (surm), Friday, 9 April 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link
weakest track imho
― who the fuck knows (surm), Friday, 9 April 2010 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link
"alejandro" and "so happy i could die" are the ones i really haven't got into yet - too cheesy for me, too poppers o'clock
"dance in the dark" should've totally been the next single (though it reeaaaallly needs to lose the diana reference)
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 9 April 2010 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link
personally v glad 'alejandro' is the next single since i've long hoped it gets co-opted as a football chant 4 my team's ace argentinian midfielder. ^_^
besides that though i am quite fond of it, albeit probably for no reasons that will stand up to critical scrutiny - perhaps it's to me what 'speechless' is to yall in terms of indefensible caseous extremity? but less wrong obv.
this (and the mia thread sorta) reminds me that i really should have got back to lex when he rightly called me out for apparent brit seaside cheese double standards on the dizzee thread way back when - v fine line i'm not sure i can be bothered with right now though.
― r|t|c, Friday, 9 April 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
"so happy i could die"
This one's killer. One of my favorites on the album.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 9 April 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Finally breaking down and ordering Fame and Fame Monster vinyl. Excited!!
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 April 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
' so happy i could die ' is one of the most poignant songs i have ever heard. the accuracy with which she depicts a night of drunk emotion, best friend in tow, and a life of " superficial " thrill-seeking is almost too much for me to bear.
― who the fuck knows (surm), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXqXsZfInJw&feature=channel
― goons 'n' roses (The Reverend), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
one thing i love about Telephone is that you can hear the grit in the teeth in the stuttering of t-t-t-t-t-t-t-
it's hot
― la senora (surm), Thursday, 15 April 2010 07:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i figured out what they're playing in the Telephone video in the scene where she's outside with all the inmates: gaga's Paper Gangsta.
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
which i actually love, i had never heard it before ?
― la senora (surm), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
uhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haHXgFU7qNI&feature=player_embedded
actually amazing
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 30 April 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
"True Blue" and "Like a Prayer" both hit #1 virtually everywhere.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 30 April 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
'telephone' is hitting me in a way that other gaga singles haven't. the buzzsaw synths sound absolutely caustic on nice headphones. <3 darkchild
― going non-native (dyao), Sunday, 2 May 2010 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, surprisingly, for such a dance-oriented track, "telephone" is definitely a headphones song
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link