dj mencap what was that uk chavcore band that had lyrics about stomping their reeboks in faces? had a really stupid chorus that went like stomp stomp kick or something. I think I posted about it once but I forget where.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
wow that review in the original post is all over the place
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
xp TRC at a guess?
― artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LBU
― artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
have the blackout crew been informed?
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
loooool tiarnan otm
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
When I saw Ludicra last year, it seemed to me that their female vocalist's gutwrenching howls came from traumatic memories of sexual abuse. I may be totally wrong, but that's the feeling I got. As much as certain musicians like to think themselves as transcending gender, transcending their humanity, or even as sub-human, in the end they're just fucked up animals wailing about their pain.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
????
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
O_o
― batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
um
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
¿¿¿¿
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
*sharp intake of breath*
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
in the end, we are fucked up animals
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
plenty of chicks at the primordial gig i went to see. thing is extreme metal styles are pretty theatrical on the whole, with bands like cradle of filth attracting a large female following (maybe one of the reasons they're generally shunned by "true" metal fans).
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
When I saw Ludicra last year, it seemed to me that their female vocalist's gutwrenching howls came from traumatic memories of sexual abuse. I may be totally wrong, but that's the feeling I got.
you sort of need more than "that's the feeling I got" for something like this i.e. lyrics or backstory
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Women's intuition
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
she had a rag of scarlet cloth that assumed the shape of the letter "A"
― batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
went to an immortal show this week and was surprised at how many women were there. was expecting an all dude affair.
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
the only two ppl i know went for sure to see immortal in ny were chix.
nyhc is def the most masculine shit ever. i have my radio show every week after a few old nyhc dudes from like the cro mags & murphy's law or w/e. they are super macho, masculine dudebros. they drink corona and slap each other on the back, talk about hahdcaw.
― ian, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
If you're talking about audiences, in my experience, improv tends to be pretty masculine: assuming there's anyone there at all!
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha.
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
with bands like cradle of filth attracting a large female following (maybe one of the reasons they're generally shunned by "true" metal fans).
More likely because they're a joke tbh ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
in general, the noise and idm shows I've been to have had fewer women attending than metal shows
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I remember calling no fun fest "no girls fest" when describing it to people one year
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Was at a Peter Brotzmann gig the other week and there were three women there, I thought that was a pretty good turn out by the ladeez
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anz_kVX3KGkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7X_BVj3Mfs
btw those ninebar lyrics for "read these boks""I'LL KICK YA FUCKING NOSE OFF, STOMP, STOMP, LEFT, STOMP, STOMP, RIGHT, I'LL BOX IN YA FACE TILL THERES NO TEETH LEFT!"― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 23:32 (8 months ago)
"I'LL KICK YA FUCKING NOSE OFF, STOMP, STOMP, LEFT, STOMP, STOMP, RIGHT, I'LL BOX IN YA FACE TILL THERES NO TEETH LEFT!"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 23:32 (8 months ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
^ not NYCHC but UKHC
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
too british. not masculine enough.
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Bet you wouldn't say that to their face..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
What does Bill Magill have to say on the matter
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I look forward to the STOMP, STOMP, LEFT, STOMP, STOMP, RIGHT, I'LL BOX IN YA FACE TILL THERES NO TEETH LEFT! choreography being used by Simon Cowell for his next XFactor winner. Think the dance could take off?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
shouldn't have thought so
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
daf
― lord byron stingily (r1o natsume), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
the amount of girls who show up to something isn't exactly any indication of whether something is "masculine" or not tho
― batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I could see it working on the school playgrounds during a game of British Bulldog
xps
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
donahue: the most masculine daytime talk show host
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfoVyTnz0g
"I don't what some dude in a $300 suit can no what haadcaw's about"
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
STOMP, STOMP, LEFT, STOMP, STOMP, RIGHT, I'LL BOX IN YA FACE TILL THERES NO TEETH LEFT!
isn't that the cheat code for that thing in super mario
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Of course
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1pcEtHI_w
― harry lame irl (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, April 1, 2010 11:33 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Im a fan of bands like Alice Cooper and Blue Oyster Cult, who didnt have to be "masculine" to be fucking badass, so anytype of hyper-masculinity is unimpressive to me. That being said, Pantera, COC and some of those southern metal dudes maybe could be candidates for this thread.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Metal, prog and jazz require a some pencil-armed dude who's spent time practicing scales 'n shit, time that could have been better spent playing street hockey and eating Dunkin Munchkins and trimming your fingernails far past the cuticle.
― bendy, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
this might be some subgenre of atonal music with an autistic fixation on complexity above all else, maybe idm or death metal or mathrock or something, with more performatively masculine genres often veering into kitsch
lumpen provincial hxc or thrash would win in terms of simple aggressiveness or misoygny though
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
misogyny, maybe
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Orthrelm's OV is pretty masculine by your criteria
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
so uh by some of your definitions masculine=technical? because that seems weird to me.
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah you should elaborate on that
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
something like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_male_brain
i suppose? the privileging of internal logic over, you know, more obviously meretricious elements of music like tunes or w/e
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I realise it's inevitable to an extent but there's def some conflation of 'masculinity' and 'things prominently practised by guys' here
― artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^tip of hat to that DN, gotta say
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
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― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
it's ilx's periodic purgative
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
try scott seward today--available at your local chemist!
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/gallery/data/media/11/withphranc.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
image bombers should be banned
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
http://ferron.com/ferron.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
why is it that artificial/social constructs have such a negative connotation w/in the context of sociology? lines like "gender is a social construct" and "race is a social construct" get trotted out as evidence that gender and race relations are deeply fucked and deeply out of step with the natural order of things. but if our society ever manages to completely redefine gender and race roles so that they have nothing to do with oppression and privilege, won't these new roles be just as artificial and just as constructed as they once were?it seems like a lot of feminists and anti-racists (including me, a lot of the time) maintain that if only humanity were freed from those pesky rules of social conduct, it would naturally veer toward egalitarianism ...which is a pretty shaky position to hold, seeing as no one has the slightest idea what a "natural," pre-social human condition would look like. it's far safer, imo, to assume that race and gender relations will always be 99% socially constructed no matter how oppressive or enlightened they may become.― broa super (unregistered), Friday, April 2, 2010 12:32 AM (16 hours ago
it seems like a lot of feminists and anti-racists (including me, a lot of the time) maintain that if only humanity were freed from those pesky rules of social conduct, it would naturally veer toward egalitarianism ...which is a pretty shaky position to hold, seeing as no one has the slightest idea what a "natural," pre-social human condition would look like. it's far safer, imo, to assume that race and gender relations will always be 99% socially constructed no matter how oppressive or enlightened they may become.
― broa super (unregistered), Friday, April 2, 2010 12:32 AM (16 hours ago
i don't really think ppl say any of that. I mean i think its impossible to say what the natural order of things really is because it is impossible to just step outside of society/culture or scientifically remove its influence and see what's left. I think what I mean at least is that the society that we have built out of these constituent parts has consistently engendered inequality, racism, domination, you know a lot of bad shit. Instead of casting off the oppression of gender roles i think whats called for is a recasting of those roles in a way that is more conducive to equality/egalitarianism etc. In this way its helpful to understand gender constructs as being constructs because it does not fall back on nature to give legitimacy to patriarchy/racism/homophobia etc.
― plax (ico), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
in summary: http://www.testosteroneformula.com/assets/images/testarol_header.jpg
― iatee, Friday, 2 April 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
plax, you are killing it here and it is awesome.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
seconded, yeah. saying "social construct" isn't a criticism of something being unnatural -- it's more like opening a window. once you recognize that something is constructed, then you have the option of trying to re-construct it in a way that's fairer or less hurtful or offers people more freedom.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
(i.e., instead of going "but that's just the way it is and you can't expect us not to do/believe these things!")
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
whoa how did we get this far in the thread without discussing the idea that some men are afflicted with "hypergonadism"?
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
oh medicine, your power to amuse will never cease
that was totally my bad, I was going to bring that up but got sidetracked into being serious due to being totally infuriated by unironic embracing of a pretty disgusting and totally mutable status quo
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/lOT7Z.gif
― goole, Friday, 2 April 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
totally^^^^^
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link