I wonder what that reviewer thinks of those female fronted goth metal bands, of which there is plenty of in Europe (and all sell more records than any death black or doom band does) Nightwish, Epica etc.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
thread was doin great til the pubs closed in the UK imo
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Metal is a bit sexist to a degree but that original article seems to defeat itself. Wouldn't a bunch of women acting in stereotypical genre roles constitute "sexism" moreso than them being able to hang with the boys?
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
( ;) )
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
also it's a lot less sexist now than it was decades ago. agreed on the NYHC
except john im the only 'brit' posting just now and i dont drink nor go out to the pub! ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i have a problem with nabz's term "artificial construct". societal constructs aren't unreal. are they? they seem really real to me.
― scott seward, Thursday, April 1, 2010 11:46 PM (Yesterday)
societal construct collect a number of attributes/qualities/attitudes under a large umbrella bracket, the borders of this bracket and what constitutes male and female is a social construct. I mean earlier in the thread didn't you say you were really feminine? But you're a man, so how does that make sense? Unless you were joking at some point and I didn't get it? Maybe?
― plax (ico), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
^ and he's irish
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
and really needs to go to bed
― plax (ico), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
not the pub?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow, my beloved just found this summit of badass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK5ILmQmCIk
Les Outlauxs!
― bendy, Friday, 2 April 2010 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
xposts to the "artificial construct" debate, though I'm mostly just rambling:
why is it that artificial/social constructs have such a negative connotation w/in the context of sociology? lines like "gender is a social construct" and "race is a social construct" get trotted out as evidence that gender and race relations are deeply fucked and deeply out of step with the natural order of things. but if our society ever manages to completely redefine gender and race roles so that they have nothing to do with oppression and privilege, won't these new roles be just as artificial and just as constructed as they once were?
it seems like a lot of feminists and anti-racists (including me, a lot of the time) maintain that if only humanity were freed from those pesky rules of social conduct, it would naturally veer toward egalitarianism ...which is a pretty shaky position to hold, seeing as no one has the slightest idea what a "natural," pre-social human condition would look like. it's far safer, imo, to assume that race and gender relations will always be 99% socially constructed no matter how oppressive or enlightened they may become.
― broa super (unregistered), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
If there is such a thing as 'man' and 'woman,' I cannot imagine a woman enjoying Pere Ubu. PS I am well aware of the legend that Linda Thompson told David Thomas she liked his voice, but sometimes people say generous or even impossible things because they are fond of a person.
― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 2 April 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link
http://imgur.com/lOT7Z.gif
― bnw, Friday, 2 April 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I love you
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I cannot imagine a woman enjoying Pere Ubu.
This is the first statement on the thread that's 100% baffled me.
― demonic splendor, demonic majesty (Abbott), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
*Looks underneath her laptop* Nope, still no penis there.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 2 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo:
1.My imagination has limits.2. If you are in fact some sort of dragon I rest my case.3. This is fun!
― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
chicks like metal.
totes hardcore
― Uncontrollable Purge (S-), Friday, 2 April 2010 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Hello. I just registered to tell you that I will never have sex with you.
― a lady, Friday, 2 April 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
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http://anthemrecordsinc.com/products/B000H4W90I.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V41776020_.jpg
Excellent alb by the way, I think I might listen to it now.
― Uncontrollable Purge (S-), Friday, 2 April 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C0F9H.jpg
― can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Friday, 2 April 2010 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link
while we were on tour in Italy our Italian sound-man taught us a few Italian phrases that are relevant to this thread- a show that is all dudes in the audience with no women is a "foresta di cazzi" (a forest of cocks- like our "sausage party" only more pungent) and, worse, there is an italian phrase which I've only heard, not seen spelled, so forgive the bad transliteration here, but any genre of music which Italians regard as "only of interest to men, repellent to women" is called "scaccia-figa" (loosely translates to "pussy-scraping" music). They seemed to think that technical math-rock and the proggier side of metal and harsh noise was scaccia-figa, but I can say from Baltimore shows at least that I see plenty of women at metal and noise shows. Maybe this is more of an issue in some places than others.
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Friday, 2 April 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Like running your fingernails along a chalkboard made of pussy. Fuck, that's a harsh image. Thanks, twiceboiled.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 2 April 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link
yikes
btw I know this is incorrect but someone mentioned Atari Teenage Riot on another thread and I was all YES THEY BELONG HERE
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
although I guess that isn't really "masculine" music as much as it is "fuck you I am alive" music
while discussing his 90's poll ballot by email, h3lg3son spake of ATR as his own peer group's analogue for The Prodigy, who might themselves be worthy of nomination (quite a few female fans though, SMBU or no)
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link
n.b. neither band was voted for, wd just like to make that clear
http://www.stereokiller.com/images/tsunamifest.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
and its at the Polish club so it really will be a sausage fest.
― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
the OG post is really interesting but makes me wonder - why are violence and aggression considered 'masculine' traits
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
...
― iatee, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't jessica harvell from phoenixville? i've actually been there and it is quite the town.
― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc would know.
― scott seward, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Testosterone.svg/200px-Testosterone.svg.png
― Hero Gringo (ecuador_with_a_c), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
why are violence and aggression considered 'masculine' traits
I think being a fuckin' corndog is a more masculine trait.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
And it's not like you never see a chick eatin' a corndog.
http://yosoylachamuca.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/corndog.jpg
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
ya'll are trippin - have you ever considered that your prejudice is just due to the way your conception of gender has been constructed by society
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
look inside yourself
RELEASE THE KRAKEN
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I am absolutely certain that a combination of biological urge and societal artifact are what cause me to view violence and aggression as masculine traits.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Contrary to what has been postulated in outdated studies and by certain sections of the media, aggressive behaviour is not typically seen in hypogonadal men who have their testosterone replaced adequately to the eugonadal/normal range. In fact, aggressive behaviour has been associated with hypogonadism and low testosterone levels and it would seem as though supraphysiological and low levels of testosterone and hypogonadism cause mood disorders and aggressive behaviour, with eugondal/normal testosterone levels being important for mental well-being.
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"news-medical.net"
seems like a reliable website!
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life/spirituality/self-help/Testosterone-leads-to-fairness-not-aggression/articleshow/5318244.cms
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
premiere website for advice to pharmacists iirc
― ksh, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
A low testosterone level can cause a lot of problems in men, particularly in terms of sexual performance. Essentially, testosterone is the hormone that helps fuel a man's sex drive. Low levels can affect mood, sexual desire, and physical and sexual performance.
http://www.testosteroneformula.com/
― iatee, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.testosteroneformula.com/assets/images/testarol_header.jpg
― iatee, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
A low hamburger level can cause a lot of problems in men, particularly in terms of sexual performance. Essentially, hamburger is the hormone that helps fuel a man's sex drive. Low levels can affect mood, sexual desire, and physical and sexual performance.
― Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
fairness: a scientifically proven masculine trait
― still driving steen, banning deez, gettin my dick xhuxked (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
BTW THE ANSWER IS RIOT GRRL
― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link