Aside from alternate mixes, have any actual outtakes from the first 2/3 albums been released? Like "Sunday Morning, Take 01" or something?
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 17 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
actual outtakes from the first 2/3 albums
The versions of some of the tracks on that Norman Dolph acetate of the 1st album session have different takes or unedited versions (not just different mixes) of some of those songs. Other than that, I don't think so.
― city worker, Saturday, 17 April 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
That's too bad, what with the wealth of VU and Loaded-era material. It'd be nice to hear some studio-quality stuff from earlier. Were the tapes destroyed? Wiped over?
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, it doesn't seem like there's any session outtakes from WL/WH or the third record ... but the Dolph acetate is fab, if you don't have that you should try to track it down.
― tylerw, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
never noticed it til the Unterberger book pointed it out, but Reed's little "Eight Miles High" tribute on the 12/12/68 "Sister Ray" is awesome! Pretty unmistakable. I love all of these "Sister Ray"s -- totally fun rollercoasters.
― tylerw, Saturday, 17 April 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah bloody hell -- I grabbed the first .rar batch of these professor tapes (VUProf1-1-1) from a blog which then was guilted into removing the entire lot before I could grab the rest. So now I have three songs mocking me. Any tips on acquiring the rest of this set?
― Kent Burt, Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
pm'd u
― StanM, Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
A limited edition run of 1969 Live was reissued on vinyl for Record Store Day last week, by the way. Two separate LPs. How limited isn't very clear (1500 of LP1 and 3000 of LP2 ????).No new audio source, still no sign of the "Matrix tapes".
― StanM, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, sort of crazy that they've never upgraded that set. I think the End of Cole Ave. bootleg sounds better than the official release ... and yeah, the Matrix Tapes sampler is clearly from a superior source. as nice as it is to have these upgraded Boston Tea Party tapes, those Matrix recordings are pretty much the holy grail right now.
― tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Plus, the Cd editions both have extra tracks, and you can find the original 2LP set in most 'collector vinyl' shops.
― Mark G, Monday, 19 April 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
the 7/11/69 show from the Professor Tapes is uhhh, pretty nuts. Were they drunk and/or high? That batshit 14 minute Run Run Run, the shambolic WL/WH, Reed's crazy vocalizing on Pale Blue Eyes. Shame it isn't a slightly better recording. Guitar playing here is wild.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe Lou overdosed on papaya juice and wheat husks before he went on
― Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
possible. too much health food can cause serious noize jams. also cool to hear Lou sing Candy Says here as opposed to Doug.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
He was seriously into health foods at the time
― Is that your Ayrshire bacon? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, there are interviews from around the time where he sounds pretty hippie-ish. talking about auras, how "white light" is the white light of consciousness or something. drinking honey from a jar. lou reed, flower child.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
It's the beginning of a new age.
― Euler, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Not gonna lie, this looks pretty amazing: http://www.sundazed.com/vu_quine.phpNot gonna pay $100 for it though ...
― tylerw, Friday, 30 April 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm past the point that I care about the object as fetish, so I'll be happy with the cds.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 April 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, it's obviously bait for ummm VU trainspotters. speaking of which, wow, there are some *serious* completists over at that VU forum.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 April 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
That forum scares me a bit. The cocksmanship is pretty unappealing.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 April 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, kind of a weird scene. still, I'll keep lurking if things like those professor tapes keep showing up ....
― tylerw, Friday, 30 April 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Totally. That was worth it.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 April 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed! Thanks for that heads up, tylerw!
― StanM, Friday, 30 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone who wants to hear that Heard Her Call My Name from the Sundazed singles box, ahem: http://decrepittapes.blogspot.com/2010/01/velvet-underground-singles-1966-69.html
― tylerw, Monday, 3 May 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
for some unknown reason i've never checked out the band's live material until recently... suddenly i find myself sucked into a frenzy of exploring this stuff. i discovered i have the first disc of the 'caught between the twisted stars' bootleg, which i downloaded and never got round to listening to at the time. i'm currently half way through acquiring the first of the professor tapes so looking forward to hearing it.
i admit to being tempted by the sundazed quine tapes set. my few rational brain cells are arguing that for that price i could get the cd version, along with the Live 1969 cds, and still have room for the sundazed singles box to scratch the vinyl itch.
― puppa chomchom, Saturday, 22 May 2010 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Live 1969 is essential Puppa, so I'd listen to your brain cells there. The fidelity of the Quine set isn't so great that vinyl is going to make a difference over the cd versions. (I totally understand the fetishism of the lavish vinyl packaging though).
― Officer Pupp, Saturday, 22 May 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks Officer Pupp. It's a sunny Sunday morning (ha!) here so I think I'll head on down to the record store and see what they've got. Good point on the Quine set fidelity. Sometimes one must set aside fetishistic tendencies.
I was never aware of how improvisational the band was. That becomes obvious when you start listening to them live of course, but usually whenever you read/hear about them the focus seems to be on their influence, the avant-garde aspects, the lyrical content, Andy Warhol, rather than the Velvet Underground as live band.
― puppa chomchom, Saturday, 22 May 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anyone know where I can find the new Professor tapes? Can't seem to find them anywhere
― mung420, Monday, 28 June 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, the guy who put them out asked that it not be put up on blogs for the time being ...i'll get around to upping them at some point for people who missed em the first time around.
― tylerw, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
still available via Nuns Are On The Sea Wall blog, btw
― zappi, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
is it? i thought he took it down ... if it's there, grab it while it lasts!
― tylerw, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
and while this thread is revived, this is probably appropriate:http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Inevitable-World-of-The-Velvet-Underground/133663983326915?v=wallA compilation of VU newspapers and magazine ads, articles and reviews published from 1966 to 1975.• More than 340 pages• Actual reproduction of the ads, articles and reviews.• Numbered Limited Edition of 500• A Bonus CD with radio ads and interviews
― tylerw, Monday, 28 June 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't been able to get them working from that blog, it's a rar file, and i'm not sure what to do with it, I've gotten lots of VU downloads to work but i'm having trouble with this, I'm not that great with this sort of thing. Also,how much better is the quality than the older Boston tapes?
― mung420, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i just picked up some of these recently. you realize these are flac files right? the quality is a little "bass-y", but really good. better than the quine tapes official release
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
My files are all messed up then. Is there anywhere else I can get them? I'm dying to hear these.
― mung420, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
If you are on a Mac you can unpack the rar archive using UnrarX. The equivalent program for Windows would appear to be WinRAR. Once you have done that you will have your flac files which you will need to convert to wav files for listening and/or burning to CD. There are some music players that will play flac files direct but it's a bit hit-and-miss.
That said I note there are some comments on the blog saying the files are corrupted or some such. I haven't tried downloading them so don't know whether it's true or not.
― anagram, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i think i had to use unrarx to get these files, they're uploaded kind of strangely. i dunno if they're better quality than the Quine Tapes -- maybe the January show is. But they're a big improvement over the versions that have floated around in past decades -- a lot more listenable.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I've unzipped them using 7-zip with absolutely no problems at all. That's an excellent little bit of software, does what you want it to do with no fuss.
― Officer Pupp, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I've used Winrar and 7-zip and they both keep asking for a password. Does anyone know what the password is?
― mung420, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
says it in the blog
― margana (anagram), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
lol thank you, can't believe I didn't see that
― mung420, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=lKhbmRwBA50&feature=related
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i can definitely hear the influence of denny vertigo here...
― He moved to New York in March so he could train with local hot dogs. (stevie), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha, I came on this thread to post that.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
word gets around quick with such a momentous find!
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Are people taking that seriously?
― Officer Pupp, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Lou was so far ahead of his time you'd think he had a time machine
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
how can anyone bear to listen to such crappily recorded minutiae, the mind boggles
― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i consider myself a huge VU fan, and i cant even listen to the quine tapes very easily
― 69, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I consider myself a huge VU fan, and I love it.
― chromecassettes, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link