Rolling R&B Thread 2010

all three leaked tracks are amazing

"ride" is d-_-b

luda's verse is ^__^

"ride" is massive -- it's like "luv songs" morphed into a grinding trunk rattler

it also has that stuttering vocal thing from "she needs my love" (i think)

i love the screwed part at the beginning

catch me in the mall, you know i buy it out
g5 plane... yeah i fly it out
ass in the back look like lacs sittin on 28s
naw you can't get her if you ain't got plenty cake
atl georgia, booties look like this size
23 waist, pretty face, thick thighs

so.big.

whoa, ciara comin out on some hardcore rap shit, did not expect that but hot damn

the other song i'm not really feeling

i'm guessing that second ciara one's going to end up being two seperate songs right? even though the first rapp half is lol smh whatever, part of me almost wants them to stay that way just to further mine the weird swivel-eyed wounded paranoia vibe that 'i'm up in the bank' seemed to inadvertantly have - i can't really see myself much caring for any purely braggin cici tracks the same way i would with electrik red otherwise.

'ride' is just tedious imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlE91KIbPz0

feeling this!!

and i'm sick and tired of
being the bosphorus

oh shit this fantasia

you walkin round
with your chest out
like you the one
but if i don't do it
then it won't get done

i really really hope she's singing "bosphorus" not "both of us"

as for the cici x 2, i haven't made up my mind yet, but i will say that "ride" sounds a lot better in vaguely-hq than last week's leak. both make me want to listen to "high price", really.

"man of the house" is so...matriarchal. i can imagine the soca cover (by destra garcia or similar) right now

maybe "boss for us"? :/

HQ of that fantasia will be dope

damnnnnn @ "Ride" video!

I think this is the highest quality version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtVGHgI7-w

And the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6W4aK1sbs

i was sort of disappointed by that video tbh.

i like "ride" but it really doesn't feel like a lead single...like "go girl", it's the kind of song which could well wend its way into one's affections eventually (i mean, i do LIKE it) but it doesn't exactly jump out as a great song from the off, like "high price" did or like "speechless" does. it feels like an attempt to make up for fucking up "high price", and luda gives off a distinct air of "whaaat, i've got to help this chick out AGAIN? man."

"basic instinct" is funny though! works better w/the video. still reasonably excited about this project. at least it seems to be being handled with a degree of professionalism this time.

god i am STILL bitter about "high price" and "echo" never being singles, i literally have recurring dreams about the superhero x james bond x "die another day" video "high price" was surely made to have :*(

i thought they floated "high price" out as a single and it didn't really catch on so they scrapped it? anyway i think "ride" is just as good as "high price", superfluous luda verse aside -- i love the way the "ride" chorus just grinds itself into the ground

that video is aight -- ciara is WS hall of fame tho, good lord

i have no idea if ciara still has a viable career -- people who remember "love, sex and magic" probably don't even remember that it was her who sang it -- but "ride" sounds huge to me idk -- huge in a way that was huge in 2005, but still

at this point i'm just really excited about the album and hope that it gets released without 8 delays and her going into the studio with redone

no yeah Ciara is over and tbh i can't see this song changing that. really she never had any star quality or fervent fanbase, just a good run of singles that dried up a while ago.

btw i can't tell if RedOne is oblivious to the fact that w/o retarded capitalization, his name reads as "re-done" or if that's the whole point of the name...

fervent fanbase

ME

she went from triple plat to can't even go gold in 3 albums -- even ashanti needed 4 albums to pull off that kind of trajectory

i feel like for r&b artists platinum is the new double platinum and gold is the new platinum

what r&b artists even go platinum now? beyonce, keyshia cole, usher and ne-yo?

"high price" leaked way early and they panicked and scrapped it as the single - "go girl" was the single that didn't catch on. then "never ever" was the second single that didn't catch on. then finally "love sex magic" got it off the ground. but as you say, in a generic kind of way whereby no one actually cared that ciara sang it - whereas "high price" or "echo" as a lead single would have had so much singular force of personality that, even if they were divisive like "russian roulette" or whatever, they'd have made ciara as a pop star a much more viable continued prospect.

rihanna? i have no idea of sales figures any more

xp

"echo" never getting released as a single was a crime

if she was careful the around the way girl feel of her image from "1-2 Step" & "Goodies" she coulda co-existed more easily with the superstars maybe? i don't feel like she fell off super hard in terms of output. i think "Ride" is wonderful tho maybe not a "great single" idk, would love if it was everywhere tho.

"careful abt the"

what r&b artists even go platinum now? beyonce, keyshia cole, usher and ne-yo?

― artie flange (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rihanna? i have no idea of sales figures any more

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and Mary J, Alicia Keys, Maxwell, Jamie Foxx, plus various people who had flops around the same time as Ciara but are much more likely to bounce back (R. Kelly, Mariah)

i would say the fall off from "Promise" to every single after it was a lil steep but i shan't since there are stans present

rihanna's album was considered a flop prior to rude boy, dunno if that's still the case or not

well, she kinda deliberately released 'difficult' singles and talked about not making another pop blockbuster, and it still went platinum, which isn't a big dropoff considering that the last album with a bazillion hits was only 2x plat.

rihanna is barely r&b in the way we're talking about it anyway

elephant in the room is Sade btw

but yeah, i know what you mean; Chrisette Michele is unlikely to go platinum

sade is more like the ghost in the room

xpost to some dude, i liked "Like A Boy" & "Work" and just presumed the stuff in between was kinda good tbh. i'm not really up on this stuff but def. have a soft spot for Ciara.

her last album had like 4 amazing songs

a few more than that!

high price/echo/i'm on/pucker up/turntables/lover's thing/work (original version)/when i/turn it up

^^would call all of these fantasy ride cuts and non-cuts "amazing"

keep dancin' on me/rattla/one favor/love sex magic/walk on the wall/the fit of love

^^only a notch below "amazing"

the demos are another story

go girl, click/flash, rattla, echo are all better than a bunch of stuff that ended up on the album (love sex, turntables, like a surgeon, g is for girl, tell me what your name is)

like a surgeon still makes me weeak in the knees

for sure

"turntables" is banging - i can't listen to it because of cbreezy though. why the hell wasn't he taken off? ugh.