search: pop songs with weird time signatures and metric shifts

I just noticed the post upthread but I had figured out that SDRE thing. Took me a little while though. It sounded not-too-uncommon but I was confused when I tried to actually count it! haha, moments in retardation.

anybody know steeleye span's version of "one misty moisty morning"? it does one of my favorite rhythm tricks. it has a melody line of plucked quarter-notes, nice and straightforward, but then on one of the verses they shift so the quarter-notes are played on the offbeat, while the vocal line continues as before. totally simple move, but it sounds great and weird. my dad asked me to figure out what was going on and when i told him they were just playing the offbeats he didn't believe me because it sounds like they're doing something much odder.

Beatles "It's Only Love" is in 4/4, but the guitar hook is syncopated and then the vocal comes in and takes over and is just straight quarter notes, having some similar effect to what you are describing, maybe in reverse.

Time Signature Cheat Sheet.

OK, I give up. This page lists some time signatures with really high numerators including some by Kyle Gann. If you go to http://www.kylegann.com/Gannscores.html you can actual see the score with the 29/4 time signature notated in black and white.

Maybe it's finally time to get the Moondog book.

The high numbers are just ways of saying it's a measure of 4/4 followed by a measure of 9/8 (ie 17/8) or whatever. It's speaking to form more than anything else, and I don't find it at all useful to think "oh, it's in 19/8, cool".

And to think I used to believe that Kyle Gann was a down-to-earth kind of guy.

If somebody is capable of accurately counting out to large prime numbers in their head, I say more power to 'em.

my favorite time signature joke goes something like, "yeah, I got this hot beat in 7, check it out -- [while playing normal rock beat] ONE, TWO, THREE , FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEV-, -VEN!"

I don't find it at all useful to think "oh, it's in 19/8, cool"

No one does except for tubbies filling out the Mars Volta entry on wikipedia.

i was gonna say rush fans, but i guess either/or.

This Rush fan couldn't care less about the goddamn time sig.

I just had a vision of Bela Fleck covering "Nineteenth Nervous Breakdown" and changing the time signature.

Or Muddy Waters singing "She's Nineteen" in a slow 19/8.

Well...

I count one...

two...

three...

four...

five...

...

...nineteen!

Too bad Scorsese left it on The Last Waltz cutting room floor.

Or "Hey Nineteen," where they really can't dance together.

To say nothing of "19/99"

21/12

"In the time signature 25/25 ..."

31/21

25/41
Big beats so dancers have fun

Chronic 200/1

19/77
And we are going mad

18/7 on a motherfuckin' cop

Ram Jam's 'Black Betty' has got some weird timing/shifting going on. Or maybe the CD was skipping when I heard it last...

3/6 Mafia

blink 1/82

0.041666666666666666666666666666667

0.81818181818181818181818181818181818181

peep this groove in π/8, yo

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Ha, yeah, if you're going to count partial measures and such as part of the overall time signature (which you shouldn't), then "Walk the Line" would be in something like 42/4, and "Ring of Fire" would be the best-known song to be alternating between 11/4 and 6/4 and whatever else -- but they are not, they just have truncated measures and whatnot.

(I think "Walk the Line" just has a half-measure going into each verse section, to loop back to the vocal faster. If I'm remembering right, "Ring of Fire" has three-beat bars that could probably trip you up if you were asked to, like, play the bass part unrehearsed, and couldn't remember exactly how they worked -- but still a conventional signature.)

Ha, wait -- just call those cut time 2/2 and you're good (except "Ring" would have a few 3/2 bars when the horns are involved)

Yup. This happened to me on a gig with "All You Need Is Love", because I am the only person on earth who doesn't really listen to the Beatles and I didn't know where the dropped beats were on that tune.

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tipsy mothra, if you ever do one of those "Music Together" classes with your kid, watch out for this tricky clapping exercise they throw at you near the end which is a couple bars of kind of syncopated 9/8 followed by a turnaround bar of 4/8.

What about Battles? Aren't "weird time signatures" and abrupt shift changes what they're known for?

God that 29/8 thing still makes me angry. WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADD UP ALL THE BEATS IN THE SONG AND MAKE THE WHOLE SONG ONE MEASURE OF 1568/8

re: Beatles. Yes, there's a link upthread to another thread called John Lennon and his penchant for silly half-time changes in almost every song.

And, of course, nabisco otm.