Iggy Vs The Corrs

OK shall i remove the 'chart' from this?
and don't tell me that Iggy is pop too OK (could this be the time for an 'Is Iggy pop rock?' thread).

FWIW I find the incident funny, in the sense that the Corrs being at the gig in the vip area in the first place seems typical for them and Iggy spitting on them seems typical for him.

Sorry Tom, but I can only think that you must have been off sick the day they covered Iggy & The Stooges!

I wouldn't describe myself as a "hardcore Iggy brown-noser" by any means (I've got maybe half a dozen Stooges / Iggy albums and I've seen him maybe 4 times in the last 25 years - and only one of those with him as headliner) but I do know that this is a guy who has been known to do an awful lot more than just spit at people when he's on stage!

From the AMG entry on The Stooges:

".... Iggy Pop became notorious for performing smeared in blood or peanut butter, diving into the audience.... earning a reputation for their wild, primitive performances, which were largely reviled. In particular, Iggy gained attention for his bizarre onstage behavior. Performing shirtless, he would smear steaks and peanut butter on his body, cut himself with glass and dive into the audience. The Stooges were infamous, not famous — while they had a rabidly devoted core audience, even more people detested their shock tactics...."

Tee hee - I think that may have been what mark s (mark@evazev.demon.co.uk) was hinting at in his post of January 10th, 2003 2:22 PM, Alex!

Maybe Iggy needs to post signs outside the venue: "Warning: You WILL get wet. Pregnant women or people with back problems or pacemakers should not ride this ride."

Nevertheless, point taken to an extent - however there remains a world of difference between lurking anonymously at the back or in the stalls to try to minimise the risk of getting yourself smeared in sweat / spit / snot / blood / puke (as indeed I'd be inclined to do myself!); and doing something as ostentatious as sitting in a stage-front box, isn't there?

Have you ever hired or even sat in a box at a gig Tom? I know I haven't!

Personally I'd have though that making a display of separating myself from the rest of the audience, when going to see a performer whose pretty much built his reputation as live performer on continually and often violently confronting and tearing down the barriers between performer and audience, would just be asking for trouble - wouldn't you?

If Iggy doesn't like the idea of stagefront boxes he shouldn't play venues with them. This is a poor argument but it's as valid as the "well they shouldnt have gone then" one.

(Can I just re-iterate to any Corrs fans reading this that yr favourite band is rubbish, by the way?)

GG was basically a (very) poor man's Iggy. Iggy without the tunes & talent, amped up to the nth degree.

Which kind of poleaxes the 'shouldve expected it' argument, no?

"I'd know that if I didnt want a peanut-butter-smeared Iggy diving on me I'd avoid the front of the audience"

"It's not a different stance at all. Iggy's rep as quoted above is that he does stuff to himself, not attacks the audience. If it was GG Allin you'd have more of a point I think!"

"I know [GG was basically a (very) poor man's Iggy. Iggy without the tunes & talent, amped up to the nth degree] Alex but the one thing everyone knew about him was that he threw shit into the audience! Just like the one thing everyone knows about Iggy is that he smears peanut butter on himself!"

Just how many times are you planning to completely revise your stance on this Tom? Time to stop digging that hole any deeper I think!

Incidentally I don't think the entry in AMG mentions that Iggy has sometimes been known bite his nails, scratch his arse and use naughty four-letter words on stage either - strange, eh?

Sorry. Just became Yoda for a second there.

But Tom, most of your "clarifications" seemed to revolve around persisently insisting, despite all my protestations to the contrary, that just because I believe that The Corrs were freeloading (do people still use the word "ligging"?) and maybe trying to improve their street-cred. a bit by attending an Iggy Pop gig - clearly without having a clue what the man's all about - and came (I think) very amusingly unstuck as a result; that this means that I am a rabid Iggy Pop fan myself and would have enjoyed being on the receiving end of similar treatment myself!

A Killing Joke fan you are

The Stewart-loves-Iggy stuff is me making jokes and has zero to do with the argt.

Absolutely. And now they know.

Again I am forced to agree that is theroretically "possible" Tom; although you would have had to somehow developed this liking for Iggy while somehow managing to avoid ever actually reading anything about him - and of course this would almost certainly mean that you were in for some VERY unpleasant surprises when you turned up at that gig.

Just ask The Corrs!

"Iggy Pop"

"Who's Iggy Pop?"

"He did Lust For Life"

"Oh right I like that song, sounds like it might be fun, let's see if we can get on the guest list."

i.e. the idea that Iggy Pop is the preserve of informed rock initiates is no longer valid.

Dave's point is OTM but it still means that saying 'tut tut the Corrs should have known is a bogus defense'- but then Dave's been quite honest throughout in saying yeah spitting is great good work Ig.

Maybe I'm just bitter that four people can be earning obscene amounts of money working in the music industry without having sufficient interest in their profession to have bothered to assimilate even the most basic background information about one of the most significant figures in that industry of the last 3 decades?

If I knew that little about the industry I worked in I'd confidently expect be sacked - and quite right too.

Actually before this thread I would have lazily assumed that the Corrs were maybe a band that nobody would get worked up about - I'm surprised and vaguely impressed (in a fearful way) by the depth of fan-love on display here.

Yeah, I was a bit surprised by that too. I mean, love'em or hate'em, you cannot deny that Killing Joke lend themselves to that sort've fanbase (i.e. loud, bug-eyed lunatics attract other loud, bug-eyed lunatics), but the Corrs are just so damn vanilla that I can't imagine anyone getting all fired up about them (or about their music, anyway).

In fairness to the Corrs, it sounds as if they'd have a fair chance of Avril "never even heard of David Bowie Lavigne"....

"Actually before this thread I would have lazily assumed that the Corrs were maybe a band that nobody would get worked up about - I'm surprised and vaguely impressed (in a fearful way) by the depth of fan-love on display here."

I dunno - it's a lot less than you might have expected if we'd been taking the piss out of Donny Osmond / David Cassidy / the Bay City Rollers in the mid-late '70's; New Kids On The Block / Bros in the late '80's; Take That in the early-mid 90's, Spice Girls / Backstreet Boys in the late '90's....

Just be thankful it wasn't Britney or Christina or one of N'Sync that Iggy spat at, 'cos I'm not sure the ILX server would have been able to cope!

will any of the questions in this three-hour iggyfan exam be on logic? bcz if so stewart and alex need to start mugging up NOW i think!!

.... and by logical extension therefore shouldn't be surprised or complain when this results in them finding themselves part of the performance.

Your point is?