harvey danger - flagpole sitta

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this song used to annoy me because of the line "only stupid people are breeding". i guess it was supposed to do that. the hook is pretty undeniable... it sounds like the dandy warhols with a dork from a teen movie singing, which as a concept is x1000 better than the dandy warhols.

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

Seam M OTM about the Long Winters album. Recommended power pop with some incredibly catchy choruses.

― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

minna POWERFULLY OTM

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

thank you so much for reminding me about this song. i once was lost but now i'm found.

― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

OK it's better than any Dandy Warhols song but we don't have be hating on the Dandys. They's quite the professional and consistent combo.

I really should listen to King James Version again (I have in a big box of promos somewhere) but Sad Sweetheart Of The Rodeo was a nice song.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

This is better back to back with the Refreshments' "Banditos."

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

Please do not ever mention "Banditos" again.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, come now. My wayward youth was spent with Banditos, Harvey Danger, Marcy Playground, Tracy Bonham and all the other wonders of mid '90s commercial-alternative-radio.

I have no capacity to dislike them.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

Do you still play with action figures? Something things need to be left in the past, man. Like "Banditos."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

Do you still play with action figures?

Haha, I never did. But I do have a Dirk Nowitzki action figure on my desk.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

T/S: Marcy Playground v. the Refreshments, who is hated more

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:47 (twenty years ago) link

Marcy. Refreshments at least did the King Of The Hill theme.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

dirk nowitzki!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 06:40 (twenty years ago) link

get ready to replace that nowitzki figure with an antawn jamison one. the future is now in dallas! (p.s. i haven't heard this song in a while and remember it fondly [perhaps for that very reason])

― will g. (will g.), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 12:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'd rather have a Steve Nash figure, complete with long, greasy hair and string to hold it back.

And a Nick Van Exel figure to stand on the side and fume that he got traded to a shitty team.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

I hated this song when it came out, but now I don't.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

This song strongly irritated me at the time, and I suspect it still would.

Marcy Playground, on the other hand, had a few good tunes.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

My mom used to think that Marcy Plaground song said "Asthma, sex and candy".

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

That is so much better. Wheezing, Kit-Kats and gettin' it on!

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

TS: Geggy Tah Vs. Harvey Danger

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

ha ha I liked Geggy Tah

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

and i dont even own a tv

― 3333333333, Sunday, 3 July 2005 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

FUCKING TERRIBLE

and since when did milo have a "desk"?!?!???!?

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 July 2005 09:04 (eighteen years ago) link

how'd you forget Bare Naked Ladies?

― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I lost my Dirk action figure when I moved and there's still no greasy Nash figure. Boooo.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i loved this as a kiddy, still like it now. i have the 7", i think.

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 4 July 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU COULDN'T BE GAYER IF YOUR NAME WAS ETHAN PADGETT

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, this song is all right! i sometimes see one of the guys from harvey danger at shows in chicago. i guess he lives here now.

an interesting taking sides might be this vs. "semi-charmed life."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

"semi-charmed life" is a perfect example of a song i probably "hated" when it came out because i thought i was supposed to or something, but really sounds great now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think i ever actually hated "flagpole sitta," tho, because i was able to appreciate it as a novelty/one-hit wonder (whereas third eye blind signalled the horrible mediocrity of mass culture, i guess?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

gay gay gay buttfucking gay vs. gay gay buttfuckin gay

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i also enjoyed the three seconds of "flagpole sitta" featured in the film disturbing behavior (which i saw at the dollar theater becuz i had a crush on katie holmes).

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

no one commented on the ashton kutcher dream i had last night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link

stence smokes dope w.the pope

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link

if you like katie holmes, you're gay (HELLO TOM CRUISE)

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

haha.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Teaching Mrs. Tingle >>> Disturbing Behavior

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 4 July 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

It's like the Dandy Warhols, only not shit!

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Their newest album isn't so bad, either!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

still love the second album! i still wanna hear the long winters stuff too.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ hstencil's outburst

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway yeah great song

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

A Milhouse divided says:
Like when Harvey Danger were around, i never saw the video to this song
A Milhouse divided says:
I assumed they were just an american indie band like sebadoh or pavement or something
A Milhouse divided says:
I never knew theyw ere some Ben Folds/Cake kinda thing

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i have never seen the video but now that i know they look like Ben Folds Cake i will be sure to continue this

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

dom, get this one it's really good:

http://www.zero.co.nz/music/images/Harvey%20Danger%20-%20King%20James%20Version.jpg

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

haha i love this song. it's so fun.

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF @ U ALL. this thread is a joke right?

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

What a terrible song/band.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

you know what? the song/band ain't so bad. Harvey Danger was alright; not the greatest, but far from terrible. this song ruled alternative radio's playlist (along w/ the irritating "Rockefeller Skank") the summer it came out (1998). it was probably the last time that alternative music was fun and not-so contrived. not long after that things went bad; very bad in fact. Korn, Limp Bizkit, and all that horrible shit took over (at least here in LA on KROQ). w/ the exception of The Strokes/White Stripes explosion, things haven't been so fun since. give me Harvey Danger or Marcy Paygorund over Korn and Limp Bizkit (or Fallout Boy) any day.

― Robert Acosta (Rob 77), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

give me Harvey Danger or Marcy Paygorund over Korn and Limp Bizkit (or Fallout Boy)

Five terrible bands.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

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I really hate this song!

― brimstead, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:25 (two years ago) link

Absolutely love it--had it on my decade-end list. I published a zine, I hate(d) Rage Against the Machine, I did and do own a TV.

― clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link

Reviews from 1998, the last issue of said fanzine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20001120133200/http://www.popped.com/radioon/98/ro011.html

― clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link

I can't help it and love this song. It does seem to be one of those songs that people either love or hate.

― Bee OK, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link

I didn't hate it, just thought it was "trying too hard"... I would choose "Sex and Candy" over this one (they sort of go together in my mind).

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:07 (two years ago) link

See, “Sex and Candy” was one of (many songs) from that time I couldn’t stand.

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:25 (two years ago) link

I would choose "Sex and Candy" over this one

100%

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:27 (two years ago) link

sex and candy...not sexy, no appearance by cameo or mandy moore, what gives

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link

singer sounds a bit like darkest timeline J0hn D@rni3ll3

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link

another terrible song!

― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:12 (two years ago) link

picking "Sex and Candy" over this is insane

― alpine static, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link

if i am chosing between those two things then my life has already gone to a terrible place so i would end it all

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link

Death is not an option.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:02 (two years ago) link

“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice” — Geddy “Choose Yr Fake Indie Poison” Lee

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link

i choose death

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:00 (two years ago) link

I choose going back in time and forcing the band to I unwrite the song.

Then they release "I Don't Write the Songs" instead

― Abe Kayfabe (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:06 (two years ago) link

Huh, the lead singer wrote a 33 1/3 book about Joni Mitchell.

(not sure that Todd in the Shadows video is a hate watch though, since Todd seems to be on the correct side of this debate)

― enochroot, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:12 (two years ago) link

i saw him open for Robyn Hitchcock 12 or so years ago, he had some nice tunes and sang harmony during some of Robyn's set. Also met him years later at a book swap at a bar, iirc he brought several Philip Roth books.

― JoeStork, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:41 (two years ago) link

vg just be glad your brain didn't choose this song as its permanent wake-up alarm. I don't honestly think "Sex and Candy" would have been an improvement but I never got the choice.

― Lily Dale, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:55 (two years ago) link

It could be worse, the “come my lady come come my lady” song was only a couple of years after this.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:01 (two years ago) link

Or the “when I’m horny like thirsty she’s a cool drink of water” song.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:02 (two years ago) link

A few things I didn't know...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cu3MMzfpww

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:21 (two years ago) link

^ Interesting.

I may not have heard this in full since before Peep Show was a thing. Watching the video now (for the first time, IIRC) I just keep hearing where the Peep Show edits AREN'T.

I really don't hate it. Judge me harshly if you must.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 06:40 (two years ago) link

Go, my lady

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 10:45 (two years ago) link

"butterfly" >> this

(not really but idk, i'm generally happier to hear it nowadays than "flagpole sitta" tho)

― dyl, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link

what was the genre of pseudo-inspirational rock-infused hip hop that had lame rhymes that seemed like cliches out of a middle school English class?

― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:17 (two years ago) link

I like both this song and "come my lady," sorry not sorry

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link

But not "Sex and Candy" really

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link

the only Marcy Playground song worth a shit is A Cloak of Elvenkind

― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

(not sure that Todd in the Shadows video is a hate watch though, since Todd seems to be on the correct side of this debate)
― enochroot, Monday, May 23, 2022 8:12 PM

yeah, i regretted my wording as soon as i hit submit. i meant it's a good hate watch for folks like me who can't stand this song. todd is charming and informative, as always.

― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

of course “butterfly” is better than this, that song rules!!!!

― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I like "Butterfly" (I don't think of it in the same "category," tho)

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

At a party the other night, we did karaoke to both “Flagpole Sitta” and “Sex and Candy” (neither was my choice). They were both pretty fun!

― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Monday, 1 May 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

My mom used to think that Marcy Plaground song said "Asthma, sex and candy".

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:40 PM (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

― ꙮ (map), Monday, 1 May 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

This is the thrilling conversation I've been waiting for.

― Hideous Lump, Monday, 1 May 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link

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