underrated aerosmith albums has been all over the money on this thread; American Beauty is seriously fucking good. "In the Attics of My Life" could have been on Pet Sounds and that's like the eight best song on this album.
to, me if you were going to pit AB against another 1970 album, the obvious choice (besides Workingman's Dead which I don't like as much) would be After the Gold Rush.
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
(for instance, both contain throwaway ditties about the coming of morning)
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
as much as i love neil, after the goldrush has never been one of my favorite records of his. AB pretty much crushes it. i think the gilded palace of sin is maybe the only record being discussed on this thread i genuinely connect with/love more than AB.
― ian, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
1970 album poll would be hella difficult. Didn't Starsailor and Lick My Decals off come out that year too? Monster Movie (or was that 69)?
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
byrds are fantastic (tho obviously a few rough spots). Clarence White-era has some indispensable stuff. anyone wanting to be convinced should get that Royal Albert Hall show that was released a few years back.
― tylerw, Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:16 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ this, btw, is OTM. clarence is a god.
― ian, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xpostyeah, there's so much 1970 gold...Funhouse, Parachute, Band of Gypsies, Plastic Ono Band
― Brio, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Funkadelic debut too. 1970 was a great year
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
soundtracks wz 70...
1970 is one of my favourite years...
Fun HouseAfter the Gold RushAmerican BeautyWorkingman's DeadYetiSoundtracksBlack SabbathParanoidFunkadelicFree Your Mind and Your Ass Will FollowLed Zep IIILick My Decals OffMoondanceMorrison HotelLet It BeKiln HouseStarsailor (still uninitiated as far as Tim Buckley goes)
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
^plus the other ones Brio said
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
oh and Loaded duh
What in the world ever happened to became of sweet Jane
― tylerw, Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― 69, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
wasn't Bitches Brew 70 too? crazy year
― Brio, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Look at that fucking list!!! My birth year = best rock year EVAR?
What do you mean by uninitiated re: starsailor, btw?
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
"I like some Byrds stuff but their catalog just seems like such a mess, its difficult to wade through"
start with the first byrds album and go from there!
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
or preflyte
― iatee, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
haven't heard any Buckley...:(
lots i forgot too re: 1970
Cosmo's FactoryAll Things Must PassLaylaJames Gang Rides AgainDeep Purple in RockSoft Machine ThirdNico's Desertshorefirst Magma albumfirst Third Ear Band albumBlows Against the EmpireOsmiumTwelve Dreams of Dr. SardonicusLorcaDivina Comedia ou Ando Meio DesligadoThe Madcap LaughsThe Least We Can Do is Wave to Each OtherH to He Who Am the Only One
(admittedly, past the Deep Purple I started to list albums I wanted to hear instead of actually have heard, but theyre all ones I legitimately really want to hear)Just Another Diamond Day
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait-- jeez-- did Buckley release Lorca, Starsailor and Blue Afternoon all in 1970? That is some anno mirabilis shit right there...
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
blue afternoon was released in 1970, according to wiki, though all three albums were developed simultaneously.
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
blue afternoon was released in1969
What a fucking cool trilogy. Each LP so distinct from the others. Shame 2/3 of it has been OOP for like 20 years.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Til the Morning Comes may be a throwaway ditty, but it really pops.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
What kind of people are big VU fans? Seriously. I never understood the appeal. That being said Loaded is probably their best album because it has the most poppy radio type songs. Also, I don't get the appeal of much Lou Reed stuff
yeah it's all a matter of taste BUT YER TASTE IS WEIRD
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm a big VU fan
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i am too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know what kind of people this makes me though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
our taste is weird
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I like this music stuff
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I listen to metal machine music for fun
― (e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I know yr just trolling Lorax but... well, are there any other bands that make you ask that question? do these bands have anything in common? what does that say about your own tastes?
I mean I'm a huge fan of a lot of bands (A LOT), VU are just one of them.
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think i've ever played the whole thing. MMM. i should sometime.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Other bands: Nick Cave, The Fall, Joy Division and Elliot Smith
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
hmm Elliot Smith seems like the odd man out there
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
cuz Cave, Reed, Smith, and Curtis all share certain vocal commonalities
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Xp: Change Elliot to Tom Waits then
I guess my problem is mostly the vocals.
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda atonal, declamatory, unconventional approach to singing/being a frontman. is this something that bothers you? Cave and Reed especially have their sweet, more conventional balladeer moments
xp
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I think you left out Captain Beefheart
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
fall fan holding ppl to vocal standards lol
― (e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
lorax: you are baffled by the same bands as I am (except Waits and the Velvet Underground)! We are like bros of confusion!
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
No Edward, he is baffled by The Fall. He's a King Crimson fan who holds all those bands to vocal standards, which is a little lol but in a diff way. (I do <3 Wetton and Lake's voices)
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, I get it, he doesn't like rock n roll
― (e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think you can explain music in a way that will make people like it, not really... but surely it should be obvious that part of these guys' appeal to other people is that they DON'T conform to typical singer standards, that they have each developed their own strange diction/vocabulary/style in order to make a tool of what would otherwise be a physical limitation.
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Vocal standards are sooo subjective. But I like to think that if you grouped people by what vocals they like and dislike and come up with some sort of spectrum with two vocal standards as opposites, the people on either end of the spectrum would have significantly different personality traits.
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess I don't really have vocal standards. I mean I like all those guys (well, Nick Cave probably the least), but I also like a lot of conventionally pretty singers - I mean the Beach Boys are like ALL TIME gods to me. same with Mavis Staples. what does that say about me
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i used to dig tom waits and i can't listen to him anymore. he's too waitsian. same with nick cave! i just can't listen to it. if the mercy seat came on the radio i wouldn't turn it off, but, man, i really can't take those dudes now.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I don't think they're bad but I rarely dig that stuff out. I'm just not in the mood mostly.
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
the tortured, drunken melodrama mood
might feel differently if some horrible tragedy befell me tbh
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
'Too Waitsian'
Bingo! This is exactly why I can't listen to him any more either. I tried to bring the magic back about 3 years ago and it just wouldn't take.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
well, it's a schtick like any other
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
that tom waits lyrics thread on ilm might be my favorite thread of all time. sheer genius.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link