Loaded vs. American Beauty

100% of chill bros love CCR

2% of uptight Norwegians enjoy Ice Cube

50% of insane people love Half Man Half Biscuit

100% of terminal wards will yell at you if you try to get them into Merzbow, also

wait what is this thread about again

http://www.onlinemovieguru.com/images/movies/loaded.jpg
vs.
http://www.energyenhancement.org/testimonial_pics/AB_poster_big.jpg

tbh they're both terrible

that poster says "look closer" because if you stare at the belly button long enough it looks like the face from that one edvard munch painting btw just fyi

ok, I get it, he doesn't like rock n roll

I know you were kidding but I do think it's a bit interesting when some people identify a particular sort of (broadly) post-Dylan (or post-punk) non-singing as being more authentically "rock and roll", considering that people like Elvis Presley or Jerry Lee Lewis or doo-wop groups had much more vocal technique. (Not saying they sang like Jon Anderson or Greg Lake either, mind.)

i need to get a copy of american beauty only heard it a couple of times

I did some science here
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Love American Beauty the movie!

you definitely change as you age. i know for a fact that underrated aerosmith albums is gonna LOVE loaded in his golden years. he's gonna be like: wait, i had a problem with this! this album is so much fun to listen to while i sit on the front porch whittling!

it's gonna happen. you wait.

anybody who likes Uncle Tupelo or Wilco should have no problem getting into stuff like Candyman or Brokedown Palace or Jack Straw or He's Gone or Brown-Eyed Woman from Europe 72...

Captain Lorax did you really make that chart, it is a thing of beauty

Yessiree

Jack Straw is definitely one of my top 5 Dead songs

yeah that's a big one for me too actually...

Both are my fave album by the respective act. This has to be "American Beauty" though.

Picked up Loaded last night.at.the.local library*. I made it about halfway through and my first.impression is that it reminds me a lot of the Stones or something. The band sounds less engaged or something. I've never heard a full VU album before. My impressions are based on an old greatest hits album I had on cassette, plus hearing sister ray once. I'll definitely give it more than one spin though.


*along with Emporer Tomato Ketchup, the Richard D. James album, and the last Jay Reatard! It doesn't seem like that long since I would feel lucky to find a Little Village album or something there. My how the times have changed.

my last stab at it was buying those two vinyl albums that came out at the same time. blood money and alice.it was torture.

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there's some crazy shit on the original alice demos recorded in germany in the 90s

Actually I did DL those demos and they were pretty nice, it's true.

i started with what a long strange trip its been when i was 16. just cuz i'd never really listened to them before and thought i should give them a shot. and this was at the height of my punkdom. but, like i said above, also the height of my acidness. i devoured that 2 album set. i couldn't believe how much i loved the songs. black peter, tennessee jed, ramblin' rose, they sounded amazing to me. i stuck to studio stuff for years. and dead set (and reckoning), which is another great showcase for the songs. i still listen to the studio albums way more than i listen to live stuff.

What a Long Strange Trip It's Been was totally my jam way back in high school in the early Eighties. It was the first Grateful Dead album that I ever owned until I bought a cassette of Workingman's Dead in the early Ninties. Point of clarification: while the first half of
What a Long Strange Trip It's Been was studio stuff, the second half was all live performances. I had it on cassette and used to listen to side two way more than the first side. Loved those renditions of Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed and Ramble on Rose.

It's a very solid compilation that is also the only place you can get the single version of Dark Star (which I have used to convert people to the cause fwiw).

Voted for Loaded over Ameerican Beauty. It would have been lot more difficult choice to make if it had been Loaded versus Workingman's Dead, but I think I still would have leaned towards Loaded

For me, all Dead blows away all Velvet Underground. Ive never understood what the big deal about VU is.

This is really tough, totally love and adore both bands. But I have to say that American Beauty is my favorite Dead studio album, while Loaded is my third favorite VU studio joint - so, by that logic, I'm going with AB.

The Dead's live rep as being these masters of improvisation who created these unique tapestries of psychedelic fire every night has been vastly overstated by both their fans and detractors.

This statement isn't as nuanced as I wish it had been. Live dead is some special shit, to be sure.

For me, all Dead blows away all Velvet Underground. Ive never understood what the big deal about VU is.

The exact reverse for me.

There's never been "a big deal" about the Grateful Dead in the UK, so the question doesn't arise.

There probably should have been.

Nah, leave them to the Americans

dead pretty popular w/ the wire crowd, known chris bohn, edwin pouncey and keenan are all dheads

Think we can agree that a few music critics discovering them relatively late in life is not really comparable to their status in the US!

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predictions? i'm thinking it'll be close.

Loaded will take it.

..in the butt

Loaded will win, and I will be annoyed, because I love the Velvets but Loaded completely sucks compared to American Beauty

I love the Velvets but think Loaded is the least of their work. I don't like much of the Dead's catalog but American Beauty is stone cold classic. Hope the Dead crush this, though I'd be surprised if they do.

and what will that say about your average ILXor if VU wins this?

They like Loaded more than some of us.

and what will that say about your average ILXor if VU wins this?

you can't actually make any statements about any "average" ilxer but I would be pretty surprised if a % of voters aren't people who've heard Loaded but mainly know about American Beauty that it's by the Dead, who they dismiss out of hand

I love "Friend of the Devil" but could never get into the rest of the album; I have never heard the Velvet Underground.

^^^stuff like this is why I usually don't ost too much on ILM

Abbott you have fantastic taste in music. While it's surprising you haven't heard the Velvets, I certainly wouldn't hold it against you!

I'm just trying to get a fire going without starting it myself

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Justice is served.

in yr face trustafarians