this record is all songs -- if u cant make it thru the 'razzmatazz' thats on you -- and im kinda surprised you dont like anything on shooterz either. really? no songs stood out to you at all?
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
not even like www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhV-3FNUo5w
did the mods write "no bay area youtubes from poster 'deej'" into the code?
― ok dennis hopper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
all over me and starz are runnin get some play every now and again, but overall not so much
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
reign god is okay but so much of that mix sounds like g-unit recycling
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
do you mean its ... gangster rap?
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
bcuz jacka himself doesnt really sound like any member of g-unit & certainly has his own lyrical style
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway we should take that to the fruity therad
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link
― ok dennis hopper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:12 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark
i try to do yall a favor & u zing me for it -- just for that im posting 10 bay rap youtubes in the fruity swag thread before today is over
:-p
― ok dennis hopper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
'faster' is sooo good.
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
dash-dashing prince or horny toad
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Haven't really heard much of her stuff, but I'm excited that I'll be seeing her open for Ms Badu tonight.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
this record is cool, but sometimes it's a little too "jazz hands" for moi
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit, she's touring with Badu?????
― bageled by dementeds (HI DERE), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's funny how popists basically react like O.G. indie rockers when the uncool kids invade the clubhouse
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
http://outmymindjustintimetour.com
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
argh, not going to be able to go
― bageled by dementeds (HI DERE), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Neither am I! I'll be in Canada when they swing through.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll be in a part of Canada that they won't be swinging through.
― Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, June 2, 2010 11:26 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, exactly. OMG, indie fans like an R&B album! It must be shit!
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:25 (fourteen years ago) link
it's very suuuuuuuuuuuuspicious!!!!!
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Thursday, 3 June 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh those crazy popists!
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
the chorus to "cold war" is really amazing
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
"Cold War" is really reminiscent of Gnarls Barkley to me ("Going On" specifically)
― drop it like it's hot, Elena (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Yeah really baffled at people who knock the songwriting on this.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
in one song she is "shaking like schizo" in another she is like "schizo running wild"
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, she was fucking amazing last night opening for Erykah Badu. I am now 100% completely sold and went out to buy the new album and the EP this morning. Since I'm not familiar with all the songs just yet, the only titles I know she played for 100% certain were "Smile" (which was so beautiful, the guitar player she had was pretty good - he looked like what Snoop Dogg would have if he'd have joined the Ramones) and "Tightrope" which closed off her set. Fantastic homage to James Brown, complete with the knee shaking dance and cape thing. She was so energetic and joyful. Loved loved loved her!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Wonder if she's planning to tour the UK, was pretty eager to see her before and that post has made me even more so.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
she's really amazing live
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
idk if she's still doing this but when i saw her last year, she painted a canvas on stage and threw it into the audience, wet paint and all.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Does she play with a string/horn section?
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
she didn't, but that was a small one-off show so she might next time, now that she has music out in the uk
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
She did not do the painting thing and no, no string/horn section. Very stripped down - drummer, keyboard guy, guitarist, and a couple hooded backup dancers.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
seen her twice now and I found that "energetic and joyful" thing a bit canned; she'll absolutely manufacture it if the crowd's not into it.
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 June 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
right, just listened to this again...so much energy and so many ideas but the songs just aren't there. there are several stretches where she just putzes around, darting hither and thither, and it's all very impressive to hear what she's capable of, but she rarely settles down enough for it all to gel. it feels lacking in the same way that listening to a soundtrack is lacking - i get the sense that while monáe's obviously really talented musically, her ideas work best visually...live, obviously, and the "many moons" video. (not that there's a song as well-crafted as "many moons" here - this isn't near to the standard of the metropolis suite.) it doesn't really span that many genres - it's basically a musical (maybe this is why i'm not totally down with it, i'm not a fan of musicals really...) with a few retro rock'n'roll moments thrown in.
"tightrope" is pretty great, my favourite stretch on the album is the closing two songs, where you suddenly feel there's something at stake emotionally. i've never heard of montreal, but the song with them is fucking awful.
i'm glad this exists and think she'll make much better music in the future, i just have to avoid reading a single word by indie fans or rock critics about it, especially if those words build her up by knocking other r&b artists.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
xp she absolutely manufactured it when i saw her (terribly-publicised gig, tiny crowd and kinda empty venue) - still worked though
I don't think it was manufactured at this show, I mean there was a very sizable and loud group of people right in front singing and dancing along with every song, she seemed to be feeding off of them quite a bit.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
this isn't near to the standard of the metropolis suite.
I'd argue the opposite!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 3 June 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yup, relistening to "many moons" now, SO good and hitting me in a way the album didn't really
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
jon, i'm not saying it wasn't real; just saying that she will and does manufacture that energy if the crowd isn't reciprocating it.with some caveats, i kinda agree with lex.
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't that just "goin' in"
you have to bring it no matter what fuck a crowd
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah see i can fux with musicals personally but the crucial flaw in this album is in appropriating them in form but no longer in function - the overrarching narrative, so implicitly redeeming to the metropolis material, is tenuous and garbled on this, just a series of wildly variform rococo set designs wheeling in and out between tracks like a favouritest hits comp for a body of work that's never actually gotten round to existing.
like lex says it's nevertheless still a worthwhile showcase of commendable musicianship & songwriting and whatever but you have to call into question the ambition, and the motives of people lauding that supposed ambition, of an album that manages to so perversely mulch down so many different styles and impulses into the same monotonously showy inconsequence (aka the polar opposite of what basement jaxx do btw deej). what is the agenda here besides a proof of talent?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the agenda here besides a proof of talent?
You couldn't be more off-base. I'd say a "proof of talent" is the last thing she's trying to get across. Whether or not that's your personal interpretation is strictly your problem (and your loss) -- not hers.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i always feel the need to repeatedly point this out, but I really LIKE janelle and archandroid is a great first album. It's just too rag tag and flailing for me to really fall in love with it. Give her a few years and I absolutely expect her to wow me.
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
the overrarching narrative, so implicitly redeeming to the metropolis material
this is the worst thing about metropolis imo
― what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
an album that manages to so perversely mulch down so many different styles and impulses into the same monotonously showy inconsequence
this is a great way of putting it - exactly what it does.
relistened to metropolis and maybe it's the conceit working better when it's concise, confined to just a few tracks, maybe it's just better songwriting, but it really bursts with life compared to the archandroid - "sincerely, jane" and "mr president" are a good deal better than anything on this album too.
xp the overarching narrative is probably the worst thing about janelle full stop
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
yes
― gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 June 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link