does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?

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he was all "so she was an American girl, what about it? there are a LOT of American girls!"

Yeah that whole thing of "she was an American Girl"...you get the feeling it's really just for marketing purposes that he even says that. Like you know, supposedly it'll help the song get further in the charts or be more memorable that way, whatever the agenda is. It's fuckin' cheesy, man.

That said, like Curtis I particularly appreciate Don't Come Around Here No More (though he did have a bit of help from Dave Stewart didn't he? I mean he wouldn't have done that by himself) and oh...let's see..."You Got Lucky" is quite good, too. Hell, in a drunken moment I'll even admit to appreciating Free Fallin'. But still it's like the best I can say about him is that he's NOT John Cougar Melloncamp or some other similar, much worse artist. He's like the lesser of two or more evils.

Bimble, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

And see now, I love it for the little fill Mike Campbell plays right after that. Two great tastes...

was ipodding the heartbreakers today because of this thread and remembered another great thing is the patented stan lynch drum fill. the one that leapt out at me is coming out of the bridge on "don't do me like that," but he does variations on the same thing a lot. it's a kind of stop-start stop-start on the toms that usually ends in a triplet roll.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Bimble you are not OTM. Petty and Mellencamp have given us some fine American pop hooks. If you cannot hear that then I feel for you brother.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

But still it's like the best I can say about him is that he's NOT John Cougar Melloncamp or some other similar, much worse artist.

Except that Mellencamp is a great artist and has made a couple of terrific records.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

hating on american girl? jesus people...

dadrock is cool, dad's like a lot of cool music. my pop (RIP) liked CCR and the Stones and Jefferson Airplane.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

bimble i generally appreciate yr enthusiasm but man oh man, you are RONG to the nth degree re: both petty and mellencamp

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Good god Jess, have you never been in a CAR?
-- Josh, Tuesday, January 1, 2002 1:00 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

Jordan, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i always think the second line of 'american girl' is 'raised on barber sex'

i don't know what the actual line is, perhaps it's better that way

Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

raised on PROMISES, LEARN ENGLISH YOU LIMEY RETARD

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

(jkbtw)

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

also, when i were a nipper i always thought the opening minute of 'louisiana rain' was the most experimental, avant-garde minute of music EVER RECORDED, i haven't heard the song since then, is it still true?

Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

american girl is so good it was even good the second time when it was last nite by the strokes!

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

srsly

PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

har, "raised on barber sex" that's awesome. xpost.
but anyway, let me add my voice to support Mr. Petty. Tons of good-to-great songs over the years. Also, as someone mentioned above, a gateway to a lot of stellar music -- got into Bob Dylan, the Byrds, the Beatles (seriously!) and a bunch of other stuff because of listening to him when I was nine or 10 years old. I recently checked out his last few albums from the library ("Echo", "Last DJ" and "Highway Companion") and was surprised at how solid they are. OK, "Last DJ" has some of the shittiest stuff I've ever heard from him, but there are 3-4 cool tracks. Kind of surprising how depressing a lot of it is though...What happened to the old jokester in the top hat?

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

hating on american girl?

It's just the normal noises in here.

rogermexico., Tuesday, 29 May 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

I know the halftime show producers are just trying to play it safe, but ffs.

musically, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Was it really bad? I can't bring myself to watch the game.

He didn't bring out some interesting guest stars, at least?

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 February 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

A surprise appearance from the rest of the Wilburys would have been nice.

musically, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

He was terrible! I knew he'd do the crowd pleasers, but Mike Campbell played with more commitment.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Its hard to top Prince doing Purple Rain in the rain

gr8080, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

he could have performed "Free Falling" while leaping to his timely death

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i like a lot of his songs.

latebloomer, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

beard is not one of his redeeming qualities

shanissey, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I would have liked zombie Roy Orbison

remy bean, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

weird bit: I bought Through the Years last Monday, having no idea that he was doing this shit.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

He's very . . . meh (these days at least). WHY NOT GHOSTFACE KILLA FOR THE SUPER BOWL HALFTIME SHOW?

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 February 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

next year: Glass Tiger!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom Petty has so many great songs, this thread is ridiculous.

filthy dylan, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm thinking so. I can't honestly say I know a single thing he's put out in 10+ years but come on

will, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

He has a few good songs (e.g., a few singles from Damn The Torpedos, You Got Lucky). But beyond that, he has lots of merely workmanlike, serviceable stuff.

Next Year: Glass Tiger and GhostFace. Good combo.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 February 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

he does have loads of great songs -- after listening to this two-disc thing -- but I wish he didn't them. A buddy has always wished that George Harrison had sung "Don't Come Around Here No More." At least his voice wouldn't try to sing over the sitars and drum machines.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:17 (sixteen years ago) link

4 hour peter bogdanovich doc about TP coming soon!

s1ocki, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link

not kidding!

s1ocki, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link

* I wish he didn't SING them

(xxpos)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Petty fine, but god that was dull. A twenty-minute "Rockin' Lunch" block from classic rock radio.

milo z, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

not kidding!

I wish to hell you were.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

remy otm. They should have borrowed the Big Screen Elvis technology from the TCB band and reanimated Roy.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder if Bogdanovich can imitate classic rockers like he can old film directors?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Frankly, I could do without the elaborate Super Bowl halftime show. I prefer it more as a game and less as an event. Of course, I'm not even watching it this year (as I hate the Patriots so).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 February 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the easter egg on the DVD version of the Bogdano Petty doc is going to be PB's masterful imos of all the departed Wilburys.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 4 February 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

the Bogdanovich doc is already out, I watched it on cable the other night. i liked it, but then i wish all episodes of Classic Albums or Behind The Music were 4 hours long.

this thread is probably the most RONG that Jess has ever been.

Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i am not a tom petty fan at all, some of the early hits are decent enough, but he is x1000 better than unlikely ilm hero john cougar mellencamp

gershy, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link

RONG

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

save it for chuck eddy

gershy, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

TS: Tom Petty vs. Adam Ant

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the Coug's biggest hits aren't as bland (or maybe just overplayed) as Petty's, but there are more Petty songs I'd rather hear (half of Wildflowers, etc.)

I call it a draw.

milo z, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

The best comment on the performance, by the inimitable K-Jean Lopez:

"God bless" you too, dude. That was a nice, subtle Super Bowl moment. This American Girl is grateful.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 February 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link

He should have played "American Girl" last.

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 4 February 2008 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i <3 tp AND his heartbreakers and at least the tv mix was better than it usually is for these things, but it was funny how it was "american girl" + 3 from "full moon fever." i guess "full moon fever" is the tom petty lowest common denominator. i don't hate it or anything, but most of the albums before it are better. (and so is wildflowers.) anyway, he looked old and kinda tired but wtf. he's 57, i guess he's allowed to look old.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 4 February 2008 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"i am not a tom petty fan at all, some of the early hits are decent enough, but he is x1000 better than unlikely ilm hero john cougar mellencamp

-- gershy"

ILM is some white ass motherfuckers. TP actually wrote a few good songs, that's way better than i can say about mr cougar.

pipecock, Monday, 4 February 2008 04:30 (sixteen years ago) link


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