jacques lu cont: can do no wrong....defend/refute

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his remixes (remix, dub, edit) of missy's "lose control" have leaked . . .

locus solus, Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI!!!

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

check the YSI/gmail request thread!

W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

His "Lose Control" remix totally apes his remix of the Faint! Not that it is a bad thing....

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Ahem:

CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

There's also a new Juliet remix...

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone know if there will ever be another Les Rythmes Digitales akbum?.

That One Guy (That One Guy), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

His "Mr Brightside" remix is my single favorite moment this year.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 25 June 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"Jacques Your Body" is getting a rerelease with new mixes due to the Citroën ad, but no sign of a new LRD record and I wouldn't bet on any new stuff - he hasn't used the moniker in five years, not even for remixes.

BTW: spoof of the dancing robot ad

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

That Missy remix is a thing of joy and beauty. Manages the rare feat of improving on a near perfect work.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 26 June 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
does anybody know where to get hold of his remix of missy elliotts lose control, heard it on zane lowe last night and it was absolutely mind-blowing!

Andy Lambert, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

that's what this thread is for This is the NEW (third) thread for requesting and offering songs via YSI/Gmail/Etc.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

uh, this is the 80s revival guy from 'bout 1998, yeah? even then i think i said 'daft punk knock-off'. and somehow his lp is now knocking around the front racks at fopp. wtf?

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

you were a real prodigy!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"WHAT YEAR IS THIS????? WHO IS PRESIDENT????? WHY IS JACQUES LU CONT POPULAR NOW? REMIXES YOU SAY??? 300 OF THEM YOU SAY???? BECOMING SUPERSTAR DJ YOU SAY????"
people still do remixes? quaint.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

his prolificness/quantity-quality ratio is impressive but the only case of me preferring his remix to the original lately has been 'Mr Brightside' - tho I haven't heard the original mix of Juliet's 'Avalon' I don't think (I watched the video on a website but the music was identical to the JLC mix so I assume they used that mix for airplay generally?).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

his remix of missy is in the top 5 worst things i've heard this year.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

haha! I think it's probably quite good, if it's the track I think it is, but I've only heard it out.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

give me 5 minutes and i'll yousendit.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I have it downloading already but I'm sure others want to hear it

the vocal version is fucking awful, on first listen. the dub must be the one erol and co are playing.

(2 mins later, after toast)the vocal version is actually absolutely dire, it's still playing here, the missy vocal just sounds so so wrong. so I'll see what the dub is like in a few minutes.


(i typed this bit earlier) on a more general level jacques dj sets are really a travesty by now, the guy hasn't bought or even listened to a new record since making the fabric mix.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

it's the vocal mix. the first minute is ok but when the vocal comes in he just slaughters it. anyway, here it is - http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1F4R0Y069EKKO1E9J1VGNPO53X

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

wasn't he the first one to start the whole 80's synth revival thing back in '99? I remember the same people who are now into all things synthesized laughing at "Hey you, what's thats sound?" and his red acid-washed jeans. No one seemed to take his music seriously, but I'm glad to see that's changed.

-- kevin says relax (surl... ), February 13th, 2005.

er right, so some hipsters now like it so what *was* yawnsome and decadent is now a-ok. his horrible jeans are still horribly 80s.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

oh fuck off, you didn't even know the guy was still producing until 5 minutes ago and now we're supposed to accept that you have any idea about what electronic revivals are yawnsome and decadent and what aren't.

honestly "decadent"! jacques lu cont and his cronies are making the streets of Great Britain a far more dangerous place. Why just last week I saw a gang of tracksuited youths making fun of war veterans while playing Avenue D.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

calm down, ro, the reasoni paid no mind to him till 5 mins ago is because i thought lrd was boring when i first heard it a very long time ago. it felt decadent *then*, fuck knows how it sounds now. if i find something yawnsome it's entirely a matter for me, i need no credentials there. so 'we' don't have to 'accept' anything, but then 'i' don't need to 'accept' that an electro revival (4th? 5th) is what the world needs either.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The day ILM gets intolerant of arguments made in total ignorance is the day it dies.

I have been loving the JLC mixes I've heard, including the Missy one, it's not as if the vocal line on "Lose Control" was particularly stunning anyway.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I would just like a new LRD single I think. He really loved being/acting a pop star at one point.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh I am calm, I didn't mean fuck off in a furious way, you are indie to the core though nr_q.

I like the dub alot better than the vocal version, the music is very similar to some of the other mixes but it's still good.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

LRD is dance for indie kids!!!! How do you think I heard of it in the first place!?!

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I meant the "decadent" stuff etc.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, i'm just trolling, but mainly cos upthread ppl though LRD held out some hope for a kind of re-entry into the mainstream of proper dance, i think; whereas i kind of lost interest way back when *because* of cassius/LRD ( i wasn't very proper dance, but i wasn't indie by then ). but i said 'decadent' because of all the 80s stuff.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I would like a new Cassius single as well.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/release/429408

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesus, I LOVE this "Don't U Want" me single, what he does with the "I Like To Move It" synth line... the name "Philippe 'Zdar'" rang a bell but I didn't know it was a half of Cassius.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

oohh, anyone got a rip they can ysi?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

"Don't U Want" = http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2S2ULNPS3P0C61BFZNI2UF17SL

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

don't i want to THANK YOU!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

is the lose control remix ever coming out on vinyl?

danny boy, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

surely it'll be in a HMV near you (and me) very soon.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

His lose control mix is great. What the fuck?

deej.., Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Diego, good taste.

Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

who the fuck am I, Al Usher now????

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

; )

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't know that about philippe 'zdar either. he did some really nice remixes of the last (?) telepopmusik single. they're poppy melancholy downtempo house goodness.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah I like those too actually.

I am not sure he is amazing, but I think he is good.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, he didn't come up with the paper faces remix of "gem" for example.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

N_RQ, the simple answer to your trolling is that JLC sounds very different to the LRD album now.

"decadence" still applies maybe, but it's a different kind of decadence, the decadence of "One More Time" and "Digital Love" - ie. the sonic decisions (and, in the case of retro-isms, sonic quotations) are partially determined and wholly transformed by the emotional content of the music. What decadence there is is a certain emotional over-investment. Of course not all his work is emotional in the specific, soppy sense of the "Mr. Brightside" or "What Ya Waitin' For" remixes, but even stuff like the Juliet or Fischerspooner remixes feel somehow larger than life, unsustainable in their monolithic grandeur.

Whereas the decadence you attribute to LRD would be, if I'm on the same page as you, something rather opposite: an investment in structure and form over and against emotional content - which wouldn't be an issue (this is dance music) if the music wasn't so retro. "Now" sonics in dance music tend to be their own justification, but revivalism seems to make most people (myself included) want to impose the burden of proof on the artist in demonstrating that there was a suffienciently good reason for it.

I like how, to the extent that JLC still does feel 80s-ish (and this is reduced too; his remix of Juliet's "Avalon" is like a weird combination of electro-house production and mid-90s salsa-house), the stylistic quotations in his recent work can be really counter-intuitive and confusing. When I wrote about the "Mr. Brightside" remix on Skykicking I was really struggling to pin-down what his assortment of sighing and twinkling synthesisers were intentionally or unintentionally referencing, if anything: New Order yeah, but also the kind of uses of synthesisers you would expect from exactly the srt of rock bands who fall outside the parameters of electroclash 80s revival - The Cure circa Disintegration, The Chameleons, Tears for Fears, mid-to-late 80s U2, Big Country, Marillion... Actually I'd love to see what Glenn from The War Against Sound would think of it!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Whereas the decadence you attribute to LRD would be, if I'm on the same page as you, something rather opposite: an investment in structure and form over and against emotional content - which wouldn't be an issue (this is dance music) if the music wasn't so retro. "Now" sonics in dance music tend to be their own justification, but revivalism seems to make most people (myself included) want to impose the burden of proof on the artist in demonstrating that there was a suffienciently good reason for it.

the decadence line takes me into autobiog. basically i see LRD as big beat: i liked big beat, but by 1998 was a bit bored with it, mainly because of the preponderance of 'comedy' in, eg, bentley rhythm ace, midfield general, etc. and LRD, who was on wall of sound, ur-big beat label, fitted this pattern. his clothes, his fake-frenchness, his 80sness, were all about the roffles. people laughed because he wanted them to laugh. and electro refs, iirc, were staples of big beat but not generally in dahnce at that point in time.

following daft punk (who i loved), he was kicking off an 80s revival, and 1998 was in some ways the height of the 70s revival (boogie nights, lots of disco-house). so i guess it was refreshing for some people.

but anyway, 'now' sonics don't justify themselves -- it has to rock -- but yeah revivalists really have to bring some serious game. and i suppose back then LRD was like the dahnce jurassic five for me. and, lo, missy has now boosted both -- it's funny cos back then i had J5 and LRD down as 'indie'.

but how do you mean that being dance music exempts you from having to provide "emotional content" -- how, in fact, do you discern this from the actual physical means by which emotional content is produced (ie 'form')?

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 07:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree about the Big Beat connection.

Big Beat's Biggest Fan (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i probably first heard LRD on mary anne hobbes' 'teh breezeblock', but thought thatmight be a bit uk-specific for the timster.

nb -- somebody somewhere asked where the 'music make you lose control' sample comes from. it's on the tip of my tongue, *and* i think it was on a big beat record, but i'm not so keen on listening to my old big beat records (except for 'not another drugstore' which is awesome).

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:42 (eighteen years ago) link


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