― Not Thaat Chuck, Friday, 20 May 2005 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Uh, Animal Rights?? I mean Play and 18 aren't the best, but yeesh.
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 20 May 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
No way on both of these. (Prodigy's best is their third, and Siegbran and I will never agree on Celtic Frost, as many threads here have demonstrated.)
I was thinking of Cheap Trick myself, but their third blows away their too-much-powerpop-without-enough-power second. The Cars might work, though. And ditto Pere Ubu, starting with the *Datapanik* EP, even. --- and yes, including their later stuff, which I've never understood the appeal of.
I'm an American, so I don't know those early Buzzcocks albums. *Singles Going Steady* will always be their debut to me (well, after *Spiral Scratch* I guess), and that kinda throws everything out of whack. (And also, I will defer to anybody who has actually kept up with the Vibrators. What do I know?)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I kinda wish somebody would disagree with me about Devo or the B-52s (who I'm way less sure belong here than, um, the Clash.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
(with exception for the entertaining singles...)
BEST SHARK JUMPER maybe.
BWAHAHAHA :'D
Gotta love some of those american 'e-lectro-nicka' fans.
― bwahahaha, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
actually, *They Said It Couldn't Be Done* (c. 1985). "Girls Love the Way He Spins" was the first track, though.
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
accept my apologies already.
"The Masterplan" is a b-sides collection & therefore excempt btw.
Oasis own this thread and only politeness in regard of the thread starter is holding back the obvious conclusion imo.
― bwahahaha, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Not very, but it does have more decent songs than anyone was really expecting by then, like 'Excess'.
Oasis's starting point was pretty low already, though. There's a point at which distinguishing between various shades of shit becomes ridiculous.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
xp
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
*Explodes!*
OK.
How about The Undertones?
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
cyndi lauper? (though not if blue angel counts, i guess.)go-gos?? (though i think xgau liked one of their later albums.)
a case could be made for blondie, too, though i doubt i'd *quite* agree with it. (their third beats their second, probably.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
their third is at least as good as their second, maybe better.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
There's also Daft Punk
I'd dare to say Pearl Jam. Depending on your taste.Mull Historical Society.
― elgolfo (elgolfo), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
and i'd say basement jaxx, too, though nobody would agree with me.
pretenders third > second, in my mind.
i'd also love to see somebody make a case for springsteen, since i'm currently in love with his debut (the most hold-steady-like album he ever made, probably.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree about the Pogues, though. RRFM is their best record.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Absolutely not, The W is waaaaaaaay better than Wu-Tang Forever.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
and no way on springsteen. #2 and #3 both > #1. #6 > #5. actually, #6 > everything else.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Shellac.
― hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Anybody taking odds on whether or not The Arcade Fire will be on this list in a few years?
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 20 May 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 20 May 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Runaways, maybe?
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
-- kyle (akmonda...), May 20th, 2005 9:36 PM. (akmonday) (link)
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(that is a massive overstatement. it's just not nearly as great as tnt and millions. I can't believe anyone would think it was). -- kyle (akmonda...), May 20th, 2005 9:37 PM. (akmonday) (link)
Oh, y'know what? I'd actually forgotten there was an album before Millions. Ha!
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Meat Puppets?
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
You've got your arrows back to front.
― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
So you did. OTM, though! As for Meat Puppets, I think II is a little better than I.
― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I think this is the best suggestion yet!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Erik The Mainer (EZSnappin), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Third Police album Zenyatta Mondatta is probably their best (hence better than Regatta De Blanc and Vagina Dentata or whatever); otherwise, they would probably totally work.
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― B Wilson, Friday, 20 May 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 20 May 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys, there only xhuxk and me, and one of us is off the mark again.
Or should at least acknowledge that this is an idiosyncratic nomination, since conventional wisdom establishes Talk Talk Talk as the Furs' highwater mark, and many would rank Book Of Days over Midnight To Midnight and Mirror Moves.
I concede Love Spit Love > Trysome Eatone
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 20 May 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 20 May 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
I wish Martin Popoff was here so he could nominate Def Leppard (at least that's my recollection; his metal book is not in front of me.)
Pysch Furs' debut is better (funnier, catchier, more energetic, more rocking, more consistent) than *Talk Talk Talk,* which I still like a lot. (And yes, "conventional wisdom" is indeed wrong sometimes.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 20 May 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 20 May 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Warren Zevon, maybe (though I guess there was an Eminem-style early years album years before his "debut", so I suppose he's disqualified)
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 May 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
upthread: SPOON???!!? what'r you, nuts?
― 666, Friday, 20 May 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link