seefeel thread for discussion of relevant informations pertaining to the "quique redux" 2cd superbonus reissue (and other seefeel matters)

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The three Polyfusia releases are cheap on bleep currently - new disjecta ep, autechre remix of spangle and Clifford's new album with Kealoha(?)

http://www.bleep.com/?label=Polyfusia

stephen, choronologically, because they get weirder (and, to me, more interesting). the Ch-Vox is a lot like the Disjecta things on warp rather than Seefeely. Fracture / Tied and Starethrough EPs also essential i think.

koogs, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Fracture / Tied and Starethrough EPs also essential i think.
-- koogs, Friday, October 12, 2007 9:01 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

hey thanks!

(by which i assume you mean, those two EPs have some pretty nice exclusives, yes?)

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

yes, and are also some of the best things they've done. plus i like the cover of fracture / tied - designers republic, nice heavy orange card, silver ink, slight embossing...

also worth a listen:
isan remix of when face was face
http://www.cocteautwins.com/html/discography/discog_23.html (cocteaus remixed by clifford)
2x disjecta mini lps on warp

koogs, Friday, 12 October 2007 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link

oh wow! i have that Cocteaus EP, think it's pleasant enough for late Cocteaus material but i haven't given it more than a couple spins really. i had no idea some guy from Seefeel was involved either. i'll have to pull that out tomorrow, then...

thanks!

anyone else?

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Listen to them chronologically as there is definitely a development of their sound and it can be divided into two halves: Too Pure releases and post-Too Pure releases. While the first ep (More Like Space) doesn't sound like a rock band, except for the last track, you can get a sense of rock composition from the songs. This gets thrown out the window on Plainsong when they start adding more and more layers and definitely go for a machine vibe. Quique has moments when it sounds like a rock band, but most of all it's the pinnacle of layering and density in the early sound. Imperial is one of my favorite pieces of music ever.

When they switched to Warp (you really should get Starethrough because it's fucking incredible), they started to strip back the elements so that by the time you get to Ch-Vox, it's so sparse, it's almost like listening to sonar blips. There are some fine moments on these records, but I admit I prefer the earlier ones more. Also, if you can locate it, their contributions to the Ancient Lights and the Black Core compilation on Sub Rosa are some of the highlights of their later work.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

What Bill said.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Bill, thanks, that's a fantastic summary. I'm really looking forward to these now, more so than before. I checked the 4 songs on Starethrough, doesn't look like there's any overlap with their full-lengths (or maybe 1 track, i forget). watching a copy of that on eBay right now ;-) so i'll try to snag it for a few bucks.

stephen, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

> Also, if you can locate it, their contributions to the Ancient Lights and the Black Core compilation on Sub Rosa are some of the highlights of their later work.

lots very cheap listed on amazon.com. if only i knew a tame american who could pick up a copy for me...

koogs, Friday, 12 October 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Nope, Starethrough is all non-album material. I remember buying it when it came out and wondering if it was the same band that put out Quique--it's that different from its predecessor.

Also, I highly recommend Mark Clifford's collaboration with Simon Kealoha on Clifford's Polyfusia label. Running Taper is the name. It's much more of a software-processed affair than his other work and sorta reclaims the space between Seefeel and Fennesz.

Otherwise, I think the other side projects are less than the sum of the whole band. There are a few Scala tracks that I like, but they never really did much for me. The first Disjecta album is good (because Looking for Snags sounds exactly like Dubstep circa 1995), but after that until the collaboration mentioned above, I unfortunately found Clifford's stuff hit-or-miss to completely uninteresting. If you can find it, Mark Van Hoen (their engineer aka Locust) put out a really good album in the late 90s called Playing with Time.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought the original last week, as it was available used. I used to be a bit ambivalent about Seefeel, but damn, this album is amazing.

mehlt, Sunday, 21 October 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.bleep.com/?bleep=FUS005

new release on polyfusia. 4 track ep.

01 - Blue-Fi1 (3:32) - Mark Clifford
02 - Blue-Fi2 (2:58) - Mark Clifford
03 - Prychynna (4:31) - Zaudloka
04 - Rankova (Midnight Edit) (6:49) - Zaudloka

koogs, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Listening to Polyfusia right now. Completely forgot how stunningly gorgeous this record is.

Alex in SF, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

ah yes, stunning record. i think i'll join you in a spin.

stephen, Friday, 9 May 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

It makes me sad that this band isn't as widely revered as, say, The Orb. They really deserve much more praise than they get.

26 Mixes Focaccia (Stevie D), Saturday, 13 December 2008 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link

You'd think there would have been primed for some serious critical re-appraisal about 5 years ago or so, when all those MBV-meets-laptronica bands like (early)M83, Ulrich Schnauss & all the Morr acts started popping up all over the place. That shit has Seefeel's fingerprints all over it.

Cat-Wrangler (Pillbox), Saturday, 13 December 2008 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Haha, I was about to post here saying what Pillbox just said. I finally snagged this reissue over the weekend and hearing it now in 2009 in such a context is breathtaking. But what's interesting is that while it does predate those styles and predicts them, Quique very much is its own sound, and there's things going on almost track for track (like the astonishing bassline on "Industrious") that few of the modern bunch are either able or willing to try.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 March 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to this on Spotify and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think I'll listen to it again now.

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Still prefer Ulrich Schnauss, mind. :p

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

This album came out right around the time I started buying CDs (instead of tapes, ya I M old) and somehow I never got around to buying it on CD or on vinyl, even though I had virtually everything else in Seefeel's catalogue on one of those formats. So basically, since all of my tapes are stashed away somewhere now, I hadn't listened to "Quique" in ages before I bought the reissue. And yeah, it was astonishing to hear it again. It sounds so fresh, novel, and unpredictable these days, which is weird because at the time a lot of people dismissed them as MBV/Cocteau Twins rip-off fetishists!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 30 March 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah this is a 10/10 star totally great album, unfuckwithable. I dug out the reissue last week also and listened to it and was of course blown away.

Does anyone rate the stuff that comes after Quique? I like Polyfusia well enough but haven't given much time to Ch-Vox or that other record of theirs that came later...

ilxor, Monday, 30 March 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The Starethrough EP is pretty great!

f. hazel, Monday, 30 March 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

anything with "starethrough" on it is necessarily gonna be great, but which one? the warp cd one or the white label?

GÖDEL ESCHER BOCK BOCK BOCK (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

aren't they the same?

f. hazel, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Still prefer Ulrich Schnauss, mind. :p
Craziest talk on ILX yet!

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Succor remains my favorite Seefeel by a mile.... they've lost some of the shoegazing qualities, in favor of a more ambient/dub/isolationist character. One of the best things Rephlex ever released; still can't understand why this hasn't gotten a reissue.

http://www.discogs.com/Seefeel-Succour/release/3617

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

there's things going on almost track for track (like the astonishing bassline on "Industrious") that few of the modern bunch are either able or willing to try

Mebbe cuz the Seefeel guys were at one point rockers? Whereas I could never truly accept M83 as a rock act. Most of Seefeel's distinctiveness, to me, from a 2009 standpoint comes from the feeling that the boundaries between electronic music and rock are still porous.

death from abroad (lukas), Monday, 4 May 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Seefeel fans, set those turntables to stun! Hot off the heels of Too Pure’s revamped reissuance of the late, lamented London quartet’s 1993 opus Quique, we are beyond thrilled to announce that we’ll bringing this outstanding release to your hi-fi as a 4-platter vinyl set early next year. This fabtabulous offering will be limited to 500 copies (100 of them blue) and brought to you in beautiful gatefold packaging. Nearly 15 years after its debut, this daring exercise in ambient glory sounds every bit as ambitious as it did then, so don’t miss this rare opportunity to rediscover this long out-of-print masterwork in fantastic wax.

That was late 2007 on a clairecords newsletter, guess it never happened.

svend, Monday, 4 May 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought this was pronounced KEE-KAY, like the diminutive of Enrique. Thank you strongo hulkington (RIP) for educating me so i don't make a faux-pas in a hypothetical future Seafeel conversation that I may have.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Monday, 4 May 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I prefer the Moby Dick pronunciation of "kwee-kway" but whatever, it's gorgeous.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 06:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I was sure it was "Keek", at least that's what I remember.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I have been mentally pronouncing it as "kweekweh" but that is because I keep thinking it's a Latin word like "quisque" or "quoque" and it isn't. But as yet I've never had any call to talk about it out loud.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoops, Succour was on Warp (as the link I provided showed!). And MP3s are available on Bleep.com! Let the record show that I'm an idiot.

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

"Keek" is how reviewers were describing the pronunciation at the time...while we on the topic, how's Tricky's debut pronounced?...Max-In-Kway or Max-In-Key?...or neither?...or both?

henry s, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

had not actually encountered this record before finding it the other day; love the way everything just billows outwards around those basslines.

do you think they'll give the re-ish treatment to any of the other stuff? probably gets a bit complicated when it's spread over different labels.

the shane bourne identity (haitch), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The last School of Seven Bells EP has a remix by Seefeel ("Chain") - didn't seem to attract much attention?

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I recently emailed Too Pure begging them to reissue all the other stuff. Still regard "Quique" as severely underrated

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

could listen to 'climactic phase #3' all day - like the long, slow-morph patterns that spiritualized were mining circa pure phase.

the shane bourne identity (haitch), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i was just listening to "succour" this morning, it's weird how their whole career was like their music decaying into its most basic elements. and then on ch-vox they lost EVERYTHING but the guitar.

ETERNAL WAR AGAINST THE DICKS IS ALL WE CAN RESPECT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

could listen to 'climactic phase #3' all day - like the long, slow-morph patterns that spiritualized were mining circa pure phase.

― the shane bourne identity (haitch), Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

So funny you say that; I've been really into Pure Phase recently and the two share a very distinct connection

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 04:05 (fifteen years ago) link

definitely my fave spiritualized record. as much as i like the next couple of records, i kinda wish j spaceman had pushed the pure phase envelope a bit further!

the shane bourne identity (haitch), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

New EP coming out on the 21st. "Faults." On Warp. Excited!

Metal Lifestyle, Evil, Hatred, Headbanging (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 September 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://media.warp.net/images/WARPCD205Packshot_480.jpg

Out 7th February 11
Vinyl, Download & CD
WARP207

Digital Tracklisting

01 - O-on one
02 - Dead Guitars
03 - Step Up
04 - Faults
05 - Gzaug
06 - Rip-run
07 - Making
08 - Step Down
09 - Airless

link

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm. Didn't expect that as a cover.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw them the other night - my second time since they came back. As support for the NEU - Rother / Shelley thing they were pretty fantastic. As a headline last month at the ICA - meh, not so much.

At the Barbican the other night they were great and I don't think they played many (any?) of the older tracks. The Japanese bass and drums really took over I felt. For the best - loved it. Looking forward to new releases,

kraudive, Sunday, 24 October 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone heard the Faults EP? Any good?

scott pgwp (pgwp), Sunday, 24 October 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoooooly shit I'm kicking myself for not having heard it yet. I'm two tracks in right now and it's VERY good; this will probably be in my year-end top 10.

mother cabrini maxwell (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 24 October 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, they definitely played older material at the Barbican. I'm never good with track names but at the very least they did Time To Find Me.

And yeah, that show made me want to hear the new album now.

Wheal Dream, Sunday, 24 October 2010 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link

woah I had no idea these dudes reformed! also: cool EP cover

PS thank you ILM for getting me to buy the quique reissue when it first came out, that was a good choice

quique da snique (bernard snowy), Sunday, 24 October 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ah fuck I used my new display name to post in the thread that inspired it, PARTY FOUL

quique da snique (bernard snowy), Sunday, 24 October 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

faults is very good, yes. can't decide whether track 4 (which is a lot emptier) is the best or worst thing on it though.

ooh, new gig date, 31st jan. king's place too.

koogs, Sunday, 24 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sarah lived in Basingstoke!" was one of my main takeaways from the interview (I also did).

djh, Monday, 28 June 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

KMRU mix: https://bleep.com/release/257438-seefeel-rapture-to-rupt

(or a free version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFaIBt7Akz4)

djh, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

call me when they make another album with the self-title lineup

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

one of the kids on Junior Bake-Off is called 'Quique'

(kee-kay they are pronouncing it, i've always put a w in it, or two)

koogs, Monday, 10 January 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

just “keek” isn’t it? Poor kid.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

It's been a name in Spanish for at least a century if not longer, but sounds like ki-kay.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

Oh that’s good to know, I just imagined it was some sad dude like myself imposing his idea of taste. Glad I was merely ignorant.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 10 January 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link

Now his brother Filter Dub...

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 10 January 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link

Any idea if ordering this now gets the corrected CDs without the two issues noted above? Anyone ordered a copy recently?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link

Mark is interviewed in this RA podcast from a couple of months back:
https://ra.co/exchange/586

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

23.07.2024 pic.twitter.com/w76kOH6ZRf

— Seefeel (@seefeel_signals) July 19, 2024

default damager (lukas), Saturday, 20 July 2024 06:54 (two months ago) link

And full news up -- new EP in a few weeks:

https://bleep.com/seefeel-everything-squared

I will have a little something more to add about all this myself around then.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

> sold-out Cafe OTO show

you what what?

koogs, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 16:40 (one month ago) link

> I will have a little something more to add about all this myself around then.

Ooh!

djh, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 18:52 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

And now all can be revealed!

https://thequietus.com/interviews/seefeel-mark-clifford-post-rock-interview/

A wonderful chat for sure!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link

they rerecorded spangle in 2019? did i miss that?

koogs, Monday, 12 August 2024 16:26 (one month ago) link

oh Sp/Ga 19, is on rupt/flex

koogs, Monday, 12 August 2024 16:29 (one month ago) link

And now you know.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2024 17:34 (one month ago) link

I really enjoyed that. What a thoughtful person. I love reading about the creative process. As an older guy who's been at it for many years, I can kind of relate to some of it, not that I'll ever do it on a professional level. I wonder if he's able to mostly focus on music or if he has a career outside of music.

beard papa, Monday, 12 August 2024 20:20 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Our own unperson with a new piece in turn on That There Seefeel:

https://burningambulance.substack.com/p/seefeel

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 17:41 (three weeks ago) link

both great pieces!

somehow i am at the cafe oto show rn - will report back

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 18:52 (three weeks ago) link

Excellence! Yeah what's the current lineup, is it the same one as back in 2019?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 18:57 (three weeks ago) link

Trio, not sure who was on bass but Clifford and peacock definitely. It was great, and sort of sweet - sort of saw the seams a bit more, felt more band-y and less studio-y. some crushing dubby moments and very unclear connection between what Clifford was doing with his hands and what I heard out of the amps. I was only in London for a night and agog I ended up there

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 29 August 2024 21:50 (three weeks ago) link

Awesome for sure.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 August 2024 21:52 (three weeks ago) link

I hope they eventually can get to the states again, that 2019 show was tremendous

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 August 2024 09:07 (three weeks ago) link

I'm certain that Extract from Succour has a sample of your dude dying in Contra

ionjusit (P. Flick), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:24 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpypHSuuro

ionjusit (P. Flick), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:30 (three weeks ago) link

Snes death at 1:39

ionjusit (P. Flick), Friday, 30 August 2024 15:31 (three weeks ago) link

I hope they eventually can get to the states again, that 2019 show was tremendous

Per my interview with Mark, he definitely would love to come back so it won't be for lack of trying.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 August 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

that new EP is astonishing

ivy., Wednesday, 11 September 2024 13:20 (one week ago) link

also i still play the s/t a lot... only good music in the seefeel catalog

ivy., Wednesday, 11 September 2024 13:21 (one week ago) link

For a second I thought you were saying 'the' only good music and I was going to abjure you.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:12 (one week ago) link

Haha yeah I was like “…. What….”

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:44 (one week ago) link

haha oops. well i don't think the s/t gets enough love tbf

ivy., Wednesday, 11 September 2024 16:10 (one week ago) link


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