Minimal house bobbins 2007

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xposts. Agh, new mobilee, I was doing such a good job on catching them all until about 10. I'm now way behind.

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the samples are on the link I posted? I can't really be bothered linking all 8 of them but here's Keridos - http://www.cadenzarecords.com/mp3/csc001-a1.m3u

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xposts re:FoN
New LP "III" is where those are from, it's good, esp. the last track "Liberate" which is a beautiful piece of pacific ocean music.
Met them this summer on their first foray out of Japan and I can testify KZA plays a mean midtempo straight-up acid techno DJ set.

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"Liberate" > "Digital Love"

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

thx blunt, that is sort of the idea that i got from listening to a few of their 12s. i am really into 'traderoute.'

anyway, what about this: the Sabu Martinez 'Body to Body' 12" on Mellotronen? a-side sounds like what 'Africolaps' could have been if executed better. i don't know shit about this guy, just picked it randomly and am sooo enamored.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that this thread has happened already.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

it warms my cockles.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this question falls under this thread, but if not, my apologies. I'm finally getting around to all the stuff I bought at Tower in mid-December (managed to catch the "all dance for $1" part of the sale before the good stuff had been cleaned out), and am wondering if a couple of things are worth keeping, or should I trade them in locally for $4-5 and get something else. When everything only cost a dollar, I basically grabbed anything that was slightly familiar. The two things I'm wondering about are Tiefschwarz - Eat Books and Losoul - Getting Even. It looks like from the previous house thread that people don't like the Tiefschwarz. Losoul appears to be decent. I haven't opened either one yet.

Stingy (stingy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i like losoul's stuff on the playhouse comps, really soulful house, even some beatless tracks with just synth and voice

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

agreed bout the losoul. tiefschwarz, imo, can suck it.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I'll trade in Tiefschwarz and get Immer 2 then.

Stingy (stingy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

"damage" on the tiefschwarz album is worth keeping it for.

dh (djh), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

haha i'm listening to the song ricardo remixed for fizheuer... it's actually better untouched

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fgsmai

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

way to strip all of the interesting and fun parts out

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

better luck not crediting your sources next time!

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Enough of this Ricardo bashing!

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I read discogs also.

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

;)

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of which I still haven't found Matthew Dear's "Hand's Up For Detroit"!

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

5l5k lamers

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

let's just go back to bashing tiefschwarz then

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

that Losoul album is no Belong. maybe worth $1 though.

lf, I read your comment on discogs re FZ w/ interest: "okay in the right hands on the dancefloor as the sun comes up". so which dancefloor was that on, exactly?

snide, yes, sorry. obviously it's not your fault you live in America. but if you'd experienced FZ in such a setting (and unknowingly), I doubt you'd be be so offended by it. it's obviously tossed off, but that doesn't stop it from being an effective idea. would you have such a problem with it if it hadn't been officially released/critically reamed by boutique stores?

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

so, if i had actually heard the song in the hypothetical situation i said it would be good in, then i wouldn't think it sucked? wow.

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"okay" -- such generous praise. phrasing so obviously hypothetical. but if that's the way you want to play, let's forget it.

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not really hard to conceptualize the element of surprise and imagine how refreshing FZ would sound on a late-night / early morning dancefloor especially if you've done that and felt super worn out and been revitalized by a song... doesn't mean it's much of a song. erotic discourse was like that for me. i absolutely loved it when i heard it out but when i listened at home it was pretty boring.

i'm glad you're "interested" though

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

like, i would never recommend erotic discourse to anyone but a dj, same goes for FZ

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

point being that it doesn't need to be "much of a song". I don't think it necessarily should have been released, but I've had enough unforgettable moments with it to love it to pieces.

that's better than "otherwise it sucks".

xpost -- think we're on the same page, only my page is more drug damaged

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of Erotic Discourse (which i HATE), does anyone else like Audiojack's Robot? it basically sounds like a chopped up remix of ED so I know I probably shouldn't, but I can't help myself. maybe cos I've heard it out (never have with ED).

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he (and Playhouse) just felt like making some cash... I'm sure his reputation will survive this controversial move :P

the question is would pobjenicki cocek work at 5am on the dancefloor for a techno crowd?

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

if you stuck Sensational Beats underneath it, sure

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

5am's a bit early though ;)

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

bla bla bla fizheuer bla CAN WE MOVE ON NOW PLEASE

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(ps- lf is right.)

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also, here is a link to that Sabu Martinez 12 i mentioned upthread. the Africolaps statement only makes sense listening beginning-->end, but you get the idea.

http://store.djhut.com/store/product/12564/SABU-MARTINEZ---REMIX-EP---BODY-TO-BODY/

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

here are Castillo samples: A / B

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

lf might be right but we already did all this, and it's 2007! http://mobaio.com/ibbs/icon/angry.gif

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

(not really angry, I just like the .gif)

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

4 days into 2007 there aren't exactly mountains of new tracks to discuss... I think the unearthing of the original track (thanks discogs) is interesting but yes, perhaps the wrong thread for it.

a (rslvd), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - p.s. redundant post ;)

Being back on real ILM for barely a day is probably discouraging the bumping of older threads so far (I looked anyway, and can't find the '06 version)

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

not trying to drag out the FZ debate but that 'pobjednicki cocek' is absolutely mega. love it!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the 06/07 issue: as it is very early in the year, i think it's worth talking about stuff that came out in the last month or two of last year. except fizheuer, which i am sick of talking about.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Prins Thomas's remix of Lee Jones' "There Comes A Time" on Aus Music is amazing....

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Just noticed this from the end of AMG's review of Magda's "Dancing Machine" mix":

"This is a disciplined, focused mix (one of the best of 2006 to be sure) from a DJ whose time in the shadows making tea is now a mere memory."

Quite a far reaching meme.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

so far I like David K - Maryann [Cocoon] - kind of a cross between Rej and Stefanik's Deviant Behaviour.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Villalobos's 18 minute remix of Blood on my hands forthcoming on Shackleton's Skull Disco. Philip Sherburne waxes lyrical about it on his blog. Excited? Yes I am.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Quite a far reaching meme.

Not when there's less than two degrees of separation between reviewer and DJ.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure the new Claude Von Stroke material is going to be nice nice nice. Saw him again last night and he killed it. Really, his style is a bit more house, a bit more funky than I like. But his sets are always fun and do more to remind me that I do ACTUALLY like some house rather than write it off all together.

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Sunday, 7 January 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

the villalobos shackleton is great, if a tad on the long side but is an edit rather than a remix.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 7 January 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A tad on the long side: the Ricardo Villalobos story.

jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 7 January 2007 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Radio Slave's 'Bell Clap Dance'

glad i'm not the only one. the central riff that runs through it gives the track real forward momentum (and a bit of drama).....unlike some of the stodgy minimal i've heard recently.

sam500, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess we should be discussing this in mr. sherburne's specially created rekids thread!

sam500, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

P.S. anyone have anything to say about Please Please Please by Tobias Thomas, because I read a description of it today and it sounded really interesting ( 12 minutes of ambience, half of V. Delay's Huone - one of my absolute favourite tracks! - this could be terrible or amazing).

It's Für Dich, Thomas' first Kompakt mix, that contains "Huone."

Andy K, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i've played out "bell clap dance" a ton, it always works wonders. killer track.

pshrbrn, Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

the audion remix of dubfire's "i feel speed" is so great, on some delirious detuned sawtooth carnival madness

r1o natsume, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

with a "french kiss" style breakdown to boot!

r1o natsume, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean that he put in orgasm samples!

Speaking of Audion remixes, along with his Olga Dancekowski remix, which is sounding really really great after some initial ambivalence, his remix of Electrostatic by Terece Fixmer is really excellent, probably one of the best remixes of him I've heard. Is it just me, or does Audion kind of make you think of Phuture. I can tell things like Acid Trax very much inform his productions.
Also, re: the 27 minute Jesse Somfay track. Haven't listened to it in full, but it's not unlike the Field on a rather aggressive day. It probably should be listened to in full though.

mehlt, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

no it just slows down. another great track i have been enjoying this week is dan ghenacia & chris carrier "tumble blur". speaking of phuture, it kinda reminds me of "rise from your grave" with those chord stabs. this is exactly the kind of "deep" direction i'd like minimal to go in, percussive, hypnotic and sensual (much like the arpiar, mountain people and recent liebe detail stuff, and also oslo who i have just discovered (thanks for the tip ronan!)), as opposed to the bigger more explicit deepness of say innervisions. see also the excellent tobias remix of "lohn & brot"

r1o natsume, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

the new bruno pronsato, seems to be a slightly more emotionally direct version of the restless, twitchy, brooding, slightly mysterious 'vibe' of harem-era villalobos (think 'hireklon' and 'miami'). this verdict is delivered after hearing 3 tracks, mind you.

jermainetwo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

there's a comma in there that shouldn't be.

jermainetwo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I am enjoying the Guillame and the Coutu Dumonts track that came out on Oslo a lot.. I will definitely be checking the other releases on this label.

Am anxiously awaiting the arrival of a big order that includes the new Jichael Mackson and Mountain People - hopefully it will turn up before Christmas! Does anyone have an opinion on the new sebo k mobilee record? I haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

Bee En Juan, Thursday, 13 December 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

now listening to a stream of the sydenham mix of 'space katzle' - so lush and pretty!

jermainetwo, Thursday, 13 December 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

jermainetwo, you just made me go and buy that pronsate record. i am a sucker for that sound.

the table is the table, Saturday, 15 December 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

also, perhaps worth mentioning that my best of 2007 list (with mp3s) is up now here

the table is the table, Saturday, 15 December 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

would you go to a party called latin brutality?

rizzx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

hell yes!

pshrbrn, Saturday, 15 December 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

hah should i post the line up?

it's new years eve

rizzx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

also, most Fleetwood Mac songs would make great minimal house bobbins hooks

rizzx, Saturday, 15 December 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

also, most Fleetwood Mac songs would make great minimal house bobbins hooks
Heh, to return to Please Please Please again, it's apparently finished off by a Thomas/Geiger remix of a cover of "Dreams".

and Re: B. Pronsato, I wanted to compare "At Home I'm a Tourist" to Villalobos, but was scared off by the prospect of it sounding like one of many thoughtless everything-exists-in-relation-to-villalobos statement, so I'm glad it's not just me. It sounds like Villalobos with a sense of humour in a way, the same wild unrepetitive rhythmic patterns, strokes of melody which sound out of place, but fit in perfectly, but he doesn't take it too seriously. Not to say anything about either one's approach to production, but their principles are very similar, but B.P. are much more whimsical and childlike. verdict, really quite good, but you have to be in a certain mood for it.

mehlt, Saturday, 15 December 2007 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link

hey Solomun's 'Keep Control' is nice and thick just how i like it

jergïns, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

^^came out in august. man, i've been playing catchup all year

jergïns, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, I'm listening to the mix October made of his own released and forthcoming productions that was posted on Tape and 15 minutes in (of about 35 minutes) it's REALLY good. For fans of Thomas Melchior!

mehlt, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Listened to the whole thing and it's consistently amazing! Sorry to make that quick, kind of vulgar really, Melchior comparison, but he takes a lot of stylistic and production tips from him, but with a touch of dub-techno aesthetics. Like Melchior playing in Berghain maybe? Either way, beautiful.

And, errr, not that anyone cares I,m sure but my end of the year tracks list avec megamix has now been committed to ilm

mehlt, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Is this Pronsato album available on CD or MP3?! I'm having trouble finding it on Boomkat etc...

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Heh, to return to Please Please Please again, it's apparently finished off by a Thomas/Geiger remix of a cover of "Dreams".

Unfortunately, it's almost unlistenable.

lou, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed.

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

In fact the last 20 minutes or so of that mix is very disappointing.

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't believe the Pronsato will be out til January. It'll be CD and 2LP, and I can't imagine it won't be MP3 as well.

pshrbrn, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

hello? repeat = no digital releases. the first few things were but they decided to go back on it. (they may well flip flop back again, i supppose)

resolved, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks! I was wondering why I couldn't find it anywhere.

toby, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

well, yeah, i didn't actually go out and buy the pronsato record.

tho i put in a request for a review copy.

the table is the table, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

ah no kidding? bummer, i didn't know that. someone wants to me more like perlon! (heh, just kidding.)

pshrbrn, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Since I imagine not many people are checking the other thread I posted this in, I was wondering if anyone here could possibly identify this just beautiful track, which I've been trying to identify since the summer. I thought it might be Joel Mull, but I've checked a lot of his tracks and haven't found it. Theres a minute long sample you can stream here

P.S. Daniel Bell is an entirely remarkable DJ! (although I'm sure you all know this already) He played for free for 5 hours in a 200 or so person capacity bar here, w/out guestlist or anything of the sort (this might be the most admirable thing any promoter in Toronto has done since I've started going to events)

mehlt, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

that Chloe albums pretty decent isn't it!

keep going back for more..

fandango, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link


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