Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty (2010)

well, sure, if we want to evaluate an artist on his moment of greatest mass cultural impact...

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We disagree, Rev. Loved the last two PE albums.

virtual old man rap renaissance in the last couple years IMO

lots of people come back from one less-than-stellar album.

in 3000s case I think it's two less than stellar albums and a bunch of bullshit movies/cartoons. and there's also the fact that he really does NOT seem interested in music - he doesn't wanna tour, he's not interested in hip hop, he wastes his time on shitty little movie roles, etc.

[There are certainly people making better old man rap than fucking Public Enemy (or even De La who aren't completely terrible at present date

also Rev otm that's a pretty weak pair to cite Alfred (also neither of those acts took the extended vacation route 3000 has)

Also "old" is a weird adjective to use around hip-hop. Ghostface is old. LL Cool J is ancient.

De La Soul didn't release anything for a five-year period, but I guess they toured and did whatever during that time.

I'm going out the door for drinks, so when I return a little soused I'll have more to say. Kisses!

when hip-hop feels vital to the country, it's def a young man's game

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 2:50 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

virtual old man rap renaissance in the last couple years IMO

this is really true to my ears - I haven't heard anything from young guys that's wowed me as much as Ghostface, Raekwon, E40, or Big Boi in recent years

this is probably true (otoh jay-z's 40)

exactly

i mean, prior to "shine blockas", we would have had equal reason to wonder about both BB and andre. speakerboxxx & idlewild aren't my favorite albums (prefer the former), but i wasn't ready to write the verdict. i was curious about what might come next. and i'm still in that position wr2 dre.

I haven't heard anything from young guys that's wowed me as much as Ghostface, Raekwon, E40, or Big Boi in recent years

― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, July 2, 2010 2:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

would say i haven't heard a lot from young guys that's wowed me as as much, but yeah

Big Boi was doing that ballet in Atlanta, put out the Got That Purp mixtape plus a couple singles and all this stuff

# 2004: "This Is How I Feel" (from the Earth Wind & Fire album Illumination)
# 2005: "Never Gonna Let You Go (She's a Keepa)" (from the Omarion album 0)
# 2005: "Porno Bitches" (from Bizarre album Hannicap Circus)
# 2005: "My Man" (from the Carlos Santana album All That I Am)
# 2005: "Girlfight" (from the Brooke Valentine album Chain Letter)
# 2005: "Smilin' (You Caught Me)" (from the Sly & the Family Stone tribute album Different Strokes by Different Folks)
# 2006: "Wanna Move" (from the Diddy album Press Play)
# 2006: "Margarita" (from the Sleepy Brown album Mr. Brown)
# 2006: "Porno Bitches" (from the Devin the Dude mixtape album Weed, Wine and Women)
# 2006: "Ms. New Booty (remix)" (from the Bubba Sparxxx album The Charm)
# 2007: "Last Night (Remix)" (from the Diddy album Press Play)
# 2007: "And I Love You" (from the Rich Boy album Rich Boy)
# 2007: "Hood Figga (Remix)" (from the Gorilla Zoe album Welcome to the Zoo)
# 2007: "Get It Shawty (Remix)" (from the Lloyd album Street Love)
# 2007: "Hood Boy" (from the Fantasia album Fantasia)
# 2007: "I'm So Hood (Remix)" (from the DJ Khaled album We the Best)
# 2007: "Hold Up" (from the Chris Brown album Exclusive)
# 2007: "I'm Crazy for Love" (from the Lim Jeong Hee album Before I Go J-Lim)
# 2008: "Energy" (from the Raheem DeVaughn album Love Behind the Melody)
# 2008: "U Know" (from the King Vashawn album Villennium)
# 2008: "Love's Crazy" (from the Slim album Love's Crazy)
# 2009: "She Gotta Friend" (with Gucci Mane and Juelz Santana)
# 2010: "Nothin' On You Remix" (with B.O.B. and Bruno Mars)
# 2010: "Tightrope" (with Janelle Monae)

Andre, otoh busy getting on John Legend and Gwen Stefani albums...

# 2003: "Boogie Man" (from the Big Gipp album Mutant Mindframe)
# 2004: "Bubble Pop Electric", "Long Way To Go" (from the Gwen Stefani album Love. Angel. Music. Baby.)
# 2005: "That's Sexy" (from the Q-Tip album Open)
# 2005: "Junglebook" (unreleased version; original version from the Esthero album Wikked Lil' Grrrls)
# 2006: "Throw Some D's (Remix)" (from the Rich Boy album Rich Boy)
# 2007: "What A Job" (from the Devin the Dude album Waitin' To Inhale)
# 2007: "30 Something (Remix)" (Jay-Z feat. André 3000 & Ice Cube)
# 2007: "You (Remix)" (from the Lloyd album Street Love)
# 2008: "Green Light" (from the John Legend album Evolver)
# 2008: "Everybody" (from the Fonzworth Bentley album C.O.L.O.U.R.S., also featuring Kanye West)
# 2010: "Ride" (remix) (from the Ciara album Basic Instinct)

there's good stuff there

dre is awesome on "green light" -- his verse on that fonzworth song is actually pretty good

both big and dre are pretty great on "int'l players anthem"

big was awesome on "i'm so hood rmx", "she got a friend", "get it shawty rmx"

listening now - I don't really get around to enough rap to say that this is better than everything else or anything but I am loving the hell out of this

yeah Intl Players Anthem is the standout from this period (at least what I heard of it)

xp

<3 Dre on the "Walk It Out" rmx

I walk it out like Usher
if you say 'real talk', I probly won't trust ya

yeah that's a seminal line

your white tee, well to me
look like a nightgown
make your momma proud
take that thing two sizes down

i could give a damn about your car
but then i would be

whoever compared this to quik & kurupt is otm i was thinking the same thing

I gotta say, if "You Ain't No DJ" is any indication, Andre can still make awesome rappin'-ass rap beats when he wants to.

"Tangerine" is such a low-key banger imo

I can't help but feel like the Too Short cameo is totally squandered.

^^^so true

he says like 4 lines? wtf

yahhh

Yeah, those Big Boi lines are the perfect segue into a full Too Short verse, which I always feel robbed of when listening to the song.

wish it has more Bun and Pat too

someone did gucci lines in shine blockas? can someone help me?

they put Gucci in a cell
did my deal with the jail
I make music, I make movies
I need Tyler Perry's cell
--- smell coming out the lamb
fuck it what the hell
gucci man, so I'm gucci'd down
she got on chanel
------ blowing stupid kush
like I'm in a rush
in the club with a half a pound
hundred fifty blunts
zone 6 east atlanta
zone (don't fuck with me alone?)
so I shine like it's showtime
all my jewelry on
on the block with a stupid watch
boy you need to stop
when I stop everybody watch
car don't have a top
in a stretch, cost a stupid check
rolling up the pack
got 'em gone, I can't even flex
east side where you at?

IT'S GUCCI !!!

they put Gucci in a cell
did my deal, went to jail
I make music, I make movies
I need Tyler Perry's cell
loud smell coming out the lamb
fuck it what the hell
gucci man, so I'm gucci'd down
she got on chanel
in the cut rolling stupid kush

the end of that hits so hard

on the block with a stupid watch
boy you need to stop
when I stop everybody watch
car don't have a top

i never realized how dope this is

thx j0rdan!! i love that tyler part; sounds like "i need a pair of carousels"

zone (don't fuck with me alone?)

can't exactly make this out though -- tbh it sounds like "fuck with meat alone" \(o_O)/

FYI: All the lyrics are in the booklet.

did my deal, went to jail

i always heard this as "then medea went to jail" lol w/ the tyler perry ref

yeah "shit i thought gucci mane said" could probably be a hot tumblr meme blog

on the block with a stupid watch
boy you need to stop
when I stop everybody watch
car don't have a top

i never realized how dope this is

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 9:11 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

???

if you can't grasp that bit you should stop trying to like gucci mane imo

no prob

on the block with a stupid watch
boy you need to stop
when I stop everybody watch
car don't have a top

i never realized how dope this is

― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 2, 2010 9:11 PM (18 minutes ago)

yeah i was just thinking this earlier as i read it

xp oh brother

Hi, boys. What'd I miss?

zone (don't fuck with me alone?)

not that it makes sense as far as i know, but I always heard it as "Zone 6, East Atlanta's own/fuck with Nia Long"

glad this album doesnt have any dre3000 cameos actually. not cos i think theyd be pooor, but cos without them it means big boi stands alone, without the album resting on the outkast factor.

weirdly tho i dont really think of big boi as an old man rap artist, not like bun b, ghostface, or whoever. especially not the way hes rapping on this album. plus he doesnt do the whole 'im so weary' shtick.

(as suggested above) he sounded much more weary as of speakerboxxx

Whiney's right, the rapping on that Em song is great, but the beat, guitar, Pink hook, lyrics and tone of voice are all really fucking terrible. Quite a feat!

Hope the Big Boi album comes out here this week, thread has me totally excited. Also has me wishing I hadn't lost my Cuban II CD in the meantime.