Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty (2010)

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like i find it hard to accept people wanna put this up against quik and kurupt - maybe on a critical reception level, or just yeah generally on a old stager observation, but blaqkout is so much richer a record on so many levels it's crazy

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link

oh i like the skits on this btw

motherfuckin henry

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

^^yes! if i am totally h w/ myself, that might be my favorite moment on the whole album

motherfuckin henry (The Reverend), Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

its not an 'album album', its more just a scattering of good-great songs. inevitably peters out mid/three 1/4s of the way through, but it can be edited down. quality never drops tremendously either, it just doesnt all hang that well together.

if i was being really picky, i could say the enthusiasm is a tad affected. like big boi is manufacturing that ebullience/'inspired' mode, but that might be reaching.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

but its the rapping - the FLOW - that makes this album.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp i'm with you guys on the skits-- 1. they're funny 2. it's nice to get a couple seconds between tracks to process the song that just ended

/\/K/\/\, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

off the top of my head, david blaine and the be still --> fo yo sorrows transition skit are prob my favorites

/\/K/\/\, Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxxxxxxposts - de la soul have been dope in the past decade and don't deserve to be seen in the same league as the mess that is pe.

samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 Dre on the "Walk It Out" rmx

I walk it out like Usher
if you say 'real talk', I probly won't trust ya

― The Reverend, Friday, July 2, 2010 6:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

always assumed the line was "walk it out like (an) usher," which I think makes a lot more sense. but then there are a lot of lines in that verse that are kind of irritatingly nonsensical or grammatically garbled, never thought it was one of his best remix appearances.

some dude, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe someone tagged his Unk MP3 as Usher

the last airbenderizer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"walk it out like (an) usher"

this barely makes sense too

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i agree with rtc -- i think the quik & kurupt comparison for me was def not about level of quality but just the general all-over-the-place summertime vibe of it all -- obv quik is much more of a master of making that feel cohesive & effortless & most importantly, UNIQUE

inconsequential feels right

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

hey rtc have you heard the e-40 album?? im real curious abt your reaction i think its awesome

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

theres this kinda GTA-city feel about it where its taking me forever to feel like i really know all the songs on it

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

aight ima put it on after the football ('day shift' anyway, there's 2 of these things?)

i know u & whiney were on it already but i forgot another example of an gr8 old man rap album that didnt feel old last year was juvenile's - don't think i ever got round to mentioning how much i <3'd it

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like rtc has been otm itt

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

another otm statement is you dweebs should listen to some funky house instead of all this but ok nm here goes with this h20 alb

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

a bunch of us like funky house! i do wish i followed it more tho

youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm slowly making it thru all these ill blu mp3s that tim sent me, but it's a lot of ish!

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

haha at the expense of revealing my patented 15 minute album listening "technique" -

1/ arent all 40 albums like this anyway? boosting this now is reflected glory from general bay rennaissance (i hear) which this sound here doesnt really represent - all these stark sparse slappaz could still be 'tell me where to go'

2/ i really never liked 40 tbh, too much hyuk hyuk

3/ best track is 'this a boy', then 'rick ross horns' & 'everyday is a weekend', and then i'd have to listen to 'bitch' n 'dem boyz'

i will listen to this properly soon but im not in the mood as it turns out - am i wrong tho?

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yah i mean i know what you mean -- at least the first part, 'arent all 40 albums like this anyway' -- number 2 i dont agree w/ at all though

but your first point, yeah i mean noz said as much when we were talking about it online, but for some reason once i spent a bunch of time w/ it it was just like ... it feels like it has some kind of grand overarching purpose i havent quite cracked yet, that its sprawling overwhelmingness is its own thing but also like ... its NOT just jumping on nu-bay and getting all these dj fresh beats or whatever, hes not trend hopping **yet again** plus there's not a hint of the kind of pandering crossover-y ness that ruined ball street journal either ... cf (sorry to do this) my review here http://www.hiphop.com/reviews/31
like basically i think its as if hes figured out what an e-40 record should sound like & has stripped away all the bullshit, then just made only good songs in that vein. and made tons of them, as if hes making up for it. its like hes playing just to the fanbase that always followed him cuz he knows no one is buying records anyway, a huge record that never feels like hes run out of ideas & instead feels like he was worried he was running out of time to say what he had to say, worried the industry would die before he could release another record or something idk. making up for lost time, maybe. im sorta shooting off the top here, i just know i keep coming back to 'every days a weekend' 'lightweight jammin' 'dem boyz' 'i get down' 'hes a gangsta' 'the weedman' 'this a boy' 'whip it up' etc etc etc

also as far as #2 goes theres a lot of heartfelt stuff on here!

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

like what i complain about in that review is ball street journal feels kind of aimless and directionless, like he has no confidence or intent except releasing another record... by making this one such a massive undertaking it just sorta creates its own inertia of purpose ....

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

& it incorporates the new bay stuff w/out being indebted to it

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry if this sounds like a super-subjective response but i should mention that anecdotally, i just hear a lot more rap fans talking about this one than his last couple. like, this feels like a record that is broadly appealing to u.s. rap fans. (this is definitely not reflected on the internet mostly, and particularly not reflected in gen. hip-hop media)

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Are we talking about Night Shift or Day Shift or both?

rennavate, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

^ yeah i'm still unsure on that

by inertia you mean just like, gravity right? - or is my grasp of physics inadequate

i think i feel what ur saying tho, like it's def a less compromised and more self-possessed album than i remember ball street journal being - and i think ur also right to say hopping on nu-bay wouldnt have rang true either; the (v vague) analogy that springs to mind actually is donaeo in the uk last year who - albeit through reinvention, ie he'd been around in different guises for years - really found his sense of self as an artist via the energy of funky house around him and its rebirth of the uk as a scene but never resorted to mimicry or pandering as such. obv there are different local logics at play with that comparison but basically

point #2 i will accept as a cheap shot but tbf it's not like his delivery doesnt naturally preclude hearing him in a more serious way to some extent

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

im talking about both -- i think by inertia i mean weight/gravity but also like ... the sense that he wasn't really controlling the direction, he just kept making tracks that he felt & the record sorta took an uncontrolled movement of its own, but that this movement is what was missing from his last few records.

i havent taken physics since i was 15 obv

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

both are pretty much a unified piece imo **esp** in the ipod age

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

how dope is the 'whip it up' beat

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

sry i said 'ipod age' w/out scare quotes

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

people are bein otm itt, I don't really have any desire to play this as an album through and through - just kind of cherrypicking random songs

got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

so like inertia's resistance is in its ineluctable inevitability etc - crazy but i like it!

my fave typo of yours is still "peons to devotion" on ur old maxwell rvw fyi but i see some spoilsport sub caught it eventually :(

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i caught it

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

btw wait til u hear 'knock em down music'

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

"If I look like I got some money ain't nobody gon' wanna give me none." True true, 40.

rennavate, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

btw there's already a separate thread for the 40 albums fwiw

(I think they're both pretty great, Day may have a slightly higher ratio of great tracks imho. I never bothered with Ball Street Journal. Loved like 2/3rds of Ghetto Report Card tho)

has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

hesa hesa hesa hes hes a gangsta

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Ya I know Shakey, but I can't find it with a quick search.

Also, man I miss Jazze Pha beats. I was always a fan of dude's production.

rennavate, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

the 40 thread is called lightweight jammin

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

im still uncontrollably repulsed by post ... '02 jazze pha beats

blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm sayin

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 4 July 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry if this sounds like a super-subjective response but i should mention that anecdotally, i just hear a lot more rap fans talking about this one than his last couple. like, this feels like a record that is broadly appealing to u.s. rap fans. (this is definitely not reflected on the internet mostly, and particularly not reflected in gen. hip-hop media)

― blap...tremendo (deej), Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:13 PM Bookmark

I know no one really dug Ball Street Journal like that, but My Ghetto Report Card was a HUGE HUGE record here. You could not escape either of the singles and everyone was bumping the album.

motherfuckin henry (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 July 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

is the dashiki making a comeback http://rapradar.com/2010/07/03/new-video-big-boi-x-big-rube-general-patton/

ice cr?m, Sunday, 4 July 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm actually doubting there will ever be another Outkast album after reading this

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/04/arts/music/04bigboi.html

Jive seems like the absolute worst possible outlet to record your music.

the last airbenderizer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 4 July 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

first lets lol at

The rapper Big Boi in Atlanta in May, photographed alongside a mirror.

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 4 July 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

The rapper Big Boi in Atlanta in May, photographed alongside... ANOTHER BIG BOI?

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 4 July 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

the last airbenderizer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 4 July 2010 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Jive “had no involvement in the songs I recorded with Mr. Benjamin,” Big Boi said.
Ha is he parodying the Times style of using last names?

underneath the moon and the stars (Whitey on the Moon), Sunday, 4 July 2010 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm thinking that maybe someone forgot to add brackets around that

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 4 July 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link

otoh LA reid seems like the best record executive there is

hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 4 July 2010 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link


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