I thought he/she was black/male/female/white etc..

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I was sure Ali Campbell of UB40 was black for a couple of years.

Jazzbo, Monday, 10 November 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

even though the first time i heard the dude from death vessel i was watching him perform live, i was still convinced there was a woman backstage who was really singing.

mizzell, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i know him and he does!
xxp

fact checking cuz, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

jaymc, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

jeff hanson owns this thread

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm still not entirely convinced that Jermaine Stewart was a man.

I remember watching the video for "We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off", trying to figure out if he was a man or a woman.

snoball, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Trina. I listened to Diamond Princess on repeat for a month and assumed she was white from the get go.

Owen Pallett, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Funny, I always thought your violin was a flugelhorn...

V. sorry I killed Jimmy Carl Black (the Indian of the group) (staggerlee), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait! also, I know! Brett Dennen! That dude is a chick, and I won't hear any different.

V. sorry I killed Jimmy Carl Black (the Indian of the group) (staggerlee), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I also thought Boy George was a woman the first time I heard "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me," except in my case, I was watching the video. So I thought he was a particularly homely woman.

I may be dreaming, but I seem to remember some review of "Sign O the Times" where the reviewer didn't realize that Camille was Prince sped-up.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i know him and he does!
xxp

― fact checking cuz, Monday, November 10, 2008 6:36 PM (Yesterday)

wow, that worked out rather nicely

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link

When I first heard Andy Bell I didn't just think he was a she, I thought he was Allison Moyet. (I think this mistake hinges on the particular early-ish track I heard, but I don't remember which one it was.)

I did too. On the other hand, I first thought that Alison Moyet was a guy, so go figure... :)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link

The first time I heard Michael Jackson was "The Girl Is Mine", whose lyrics kind of made it obvious that he must indeed have been a guy. But I still found it a bit puzzling.. I mean, he just couldn't be...?

Listening to the "Grafitti Bridge" soundtrack by Prince I also thought this Tevin Campbell must be a girl. Of course, mixing him up was a bit more logical as, at 14, he did indeed sound like a woman although it wouldn't last. :)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link

When I heard Milli Vanilli's "Girl I'm gonna miss you" I thought it was a girl.

Years later, found out I was right!

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link

do you know how long fact checking cuz has been waiting for someone, anyone, to make that Geddy Lee joke???

I CRIED (G00blar), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

tracy chapman yeah

Funky Buddha Lounge (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

think I've seen fcc feedline before

you made my mum eat Pick Only One (sic), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Keith Jarrett to thread

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought beethoven was black for the longest time. turns out i was mixing him up with jesus christ.

Shacknasty (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Nah, Haydn was the brother

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening to the "Grafitti Bridge" soundtrack by Prince I also thought this Tevin Campbell must be a girl. Of course, mixing him up was a bit more logical as, at 14, he did indeed sound like a woman although it wouldn't last. :)

I thought this too for a long time. His voice is (obviously) quite high, there's no picture of him in the record sleeve, and I had no idea "Tevin" is a male name.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

tracy chapman yeah

― Funky Buddha Lounge (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 10:24

came on to say this (though she was a fella), somebody already did, ah well.

unless curt1s thought she was white, of course, in which case...

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Dominique Leone's "Uncover yourself", I thought he'd got a female to sing, even though I can (just about) sing along to it myself...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link

turns out arthur russell was a white guy.

m the g, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, of course, Dominque Leone!

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Before I came across her solo album, I thought Rah Digga of The Flipmode Squad was a somewhat high-voiced man. I think this is because The Flipmode Squad had some male member with a similar voice to hers.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

My wife thought Insane Clown Posse was black. (She also thought B Real from Cypress Hill was black.)

Maybe this is because B Real uses the word "nigga" quite often? (Is it okay for Latinos to use it?)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 11:56 (fifteen years ago) link

My friend thought Nina Simone was a man

When I first heard Antony and the Johnsons I thought he was Nina Simone.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Final, definitive word on Frank Zappa's heritage: "My ancestry is Sicilian, Greek, Arabic and French."

Weird, I thought he had some roots in Lithuania, because there's a statue of him in Vilnius.

I can't remember why, but up until Everything Is Wrong came out I used to think Moby was a bald woman.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

When I first heard "Praise You", I thought it was The Eels, (i.e. Mark Edwards singing, not Cammille Yarbrough.)

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I initially thought it was Len Barry of "1-2-3" fame.

the gaunty from the hilarious 'alan titchmarsh show' comics (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link

(xxpost) Moby, that well known Persis Khambatta impersonator...

snoball, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Weird, I thought he had some roots in Lithuania, because there's a statue of him in Vilnius.

He has fans there. Both his parents were Italian or of Italian stock, I think? That bit about Arabic and French and Greek seems a bit stereotypically American for Frank.

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a vague recollection that the statue in vilnius was at least in part due to some work he did as a cultural envoy, or something else equally unlikely...

m the g, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I think he was, or it was proposed that he be, Cultural Envoy in the Czech Republic?

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard a Ray LaMontagne song on the radio the other day and thought it was a woman.

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Nat Hentoff is white?

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

do you only know him from liner notes? i would say the vast majority of his articles i've come across have his picture beside them

Sit 'N Creep (tremendoid), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really know him much at all. I hate to say it, but I think I thought he was black because he writes about jazz and his name is Nat (viz. Turner, King Cole).

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

short for "Natalie" iirc

what of the fuck you talkie bout (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone seven years ago mentioned thinking Eminem was black. Me too - he sounded like Del Tha Funky Homosapien on My Name Is... to my ears then.

More recently when I heard the Memory Cassette singles I thought he was a she.

Treblekicker, Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd sort of pictured Hentoff as an Ishmael Reed/Cornel West kind of dude.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I knew a girl in school who, based on their name alone, thought Pearl Jam were a black female vocal duo.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Also I thought Sting was black first time I heard a Police record. I must've been about five.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone upthread mentioned him before, but I used to think Bob Seger was black and more specifically I thought he was Sherman Helmsley. I would always picture Mr. Jefferson when "Night Moves" came on the radio when I was a kid.

Robert Necrofrost, Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

damn

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd sort of pictured Hentoff as an Ishmael Reed/Cornel West kind of dude.

fwiw from some pictures he could def. pass as light-skinned, when placed next to an article about jazz ;)

Sit 'N Creep (tremendoid), Friday, 29 January 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Chaka Khan... is this person a man, a woman, black, white, Middle Eastern? Who knows.

Melvin van Osterlow, Jr. (res), Friday, 29 January 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

one of the biggest disappointments in my life was finding out Todd Edwards is white

this was a shock to me as well!

one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Friday, 29 January 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Does it count if you forget someone is black? In that case, Chris Matthews to thread.

Hideous Lump, Friday, 29 January 2010 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link


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