ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS

Even though I know it's been edited together seamlessly, I like to kid myself that the two guys did the entire thing in one take, no mistakes. Battles, my only pick thus far, could've picked up a few tricks from OV for sure.

Not only is the album format not a particular forte of the genre

maybe before run dmc's debut LP

Sure, there are a number of full-length masterpieces. But when taking the roughly 30-year time frame as a whole, I wouldn't say there's a great preponderance, especially since about 2002.

tarot sport is a load of promising noisy dance-jams that go absolutely fucking nowhere

Agree with this 100%

Preferred Fuck Buttons when they were a bit more aggressive, also. See: Sweet Love For Planet Earth.

for lj

--- NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock TRACKS Poll---. - Noms end 25th July
--- NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock Albums Poll---. - Noms end 26th July

and I can already sense a moratorium on anything 'arty' - prove me wrong, ILX

Does The Knife/Fever Ray count? They should do quite well, I reckon. Scott Walker better place in here too, dammit.

it's funny how hip-hop, r&b, chartpop and dance all get regularly dismissed as not being album genres, yet somehow every year there are enough of them that i love as albums qua albums to fill my end-of-year lists. sure, the stereotypes are there for a reason (techno is singles-driven, pop albums can be singles + filler, hip-hop albums can be overlong) but it's not as if an "albums genre" like indie rock is immune from the exact same criticisms, and an artist's capacity to work within the album format in tandem with the tracks format doesn't have much to do with genre.

anyway my 2/40 votes so far were

93. NE-YO Year of the Gentleman (2008) [195.5 points, 10 votes]
89. VITALIC OK Cowboy (2005) [200 points, 10 votes]

and i basically approve of lil wayne, sleater-kinney, santigold and dj sprinkles showing up.

Preferred Fuck Buttons when they were a bit more aggressive...

;___; aww, i love tarot sport. not my favorite album in the world, but very nice if yr in the proper headspace. also had santigold and the warning in my ballot. overall though, 1st 20 = a bunch of terribly boring crap. probably including the stuff i like...

Does The Knife/Fever Ray count? They should do quite well, I reckon.

Yeah, they'll do very well. I didn't vote for them though! There really were a lot of albums I liked. In retrospect I should have probably chucked Fever Ray a few points (I much prefer it to Silent Shout) but again I saw them as collections of very good songs rather than albums.

lex ... as a big electronic music listener (or 'dance', if you like); i do agree with that mostly. though, like you said, there is some truth to the stereotypes. i do find the indie vs. hip-hop thing on ilm to be ridiculously tired though. too much pointing fingers. just because someone makes a criticism about hip-hop does not make them 'indie' loyalists or something.

xpost no no Fever Ray + SS are dynamite album experiences, especially the former. If you could explain, what is the determinant that divides proper albums from just rows of good songs?

I should have qualified that Fever Ray does work really well as an album, but I still prefer to listen to individual tracks from it than the whole album in one go - which is my personal determinant.

I was about to say that you completely invalidated all of your incoherent ranting by claiming that the Fever Ray album doesn't work as an album, and then you made that clarification

which tbh still leaves you kind of dangling on the "I'm only typing because you are all not actually sockpuppets whose taste I can control" hook a little bit

hermit crab zing is my favorite al ship running joke of all time

― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 3:38 PM (3 hours ago)

haha otm

Pretty sure I voted for these albums, from memory:

100. LIL WAYNE Tha Carter III (2008) [181 points, 8 votes]
99. SPOON Gimme Fiction (2005) [181 points, 9 votes]
96. CARIBOU Andorra (2007) [187.5 points, 9 votes]
93. NE-YO Year of the Gentleman (2008) [195.5 points, 10 votes]
87. ANIMAL COLLECTIVE Strawberry Jam (2007) [203 points, 9 votes]
85. BAT FOR LASHES Two Suns (2009) [205 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. FUCK BUTTONS Tarot Sport (2009) [206 points, 12 votes]

Which I guess means I snuck the first four (Wayne, Spoon, Caribou, Ne-Yo) onto the list in the first place. Depressing...

1/20 and zzzzzzzzz

i think i'm 0/20

word for DJ Sprinkles. Seeing him live Friday night!

Only voted for two of the 20 (DJ Sprinkles and B&S) but like a good chunk of the list so far.

Three of the top 20, forgot Camera Obscura.

looking at my ballot i'm surprised i didn't vote for vitalic. and why oh why didn't i nominate the presets album (which wouldn't have placed anyway)

just an fyi that tomorrow i'm gonna start doing results at like 10 or 10:30 am EST cuz i have to be at work at 2

work o_0

just because someone makes a criticism about hip-hop does not make them 'indie' loyalists or something.

― untrue pitch, Wednesday, July 7, 2010 7:04 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

have you looked at your fucking screen name, dude?

work!

what if the dude just fuckin feels like certain pitches carry a negative truth value?

just because someone makes a criticism about hip-hop does not make them 'indie' loyalists or something.

― you forgot it in neon bitte bible high violet pavilion, Wednesday, July 7, 2010 7:04 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

mister zing 6

hahaha

@untrue: suspect that hip hop is as much of an album genre as metal or indie or dance...for ppl who listen to hip hop. i mean run dmc changed the landscape completely and rap got p rockist abt its shit and that persists thru decades. u cld fill yr 20 end of year votes with all rap easy. i think the major label album has weakened in recent years with ipod playlists & youtube & ringtones & mp3 blogs & itunes & subsuming pop & no one buying anything & the major label album tending towards trying to be all things to all ppl, tho most rap critics i've seen on this seem to disagree with that (deej for instance rejecting that the album fell off) and we still talk abt albums as much as trax i think! i do anyway. and even as our ongoing mania for mixtapes prob teaches us to appreciate the sloppy and the throwaway more than otherwise, it shows that fondness for the longform persists, frees acts from label constraints, allows beatjacking etc. & the "album" mentality persists even in acts crafting start-to-finish cohesive "street album" mixtapes full of immaculately produced original music and given away for free. if it's a "thing" that hip hop isn't an album genre then i'm surprised.

untrue, here are my 25 favorite commercially-released, non-mixtape rap albums of 2009. also, shut up.

1. Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II
2. Quik And Kurupt – BlaQKout
3. J Dilla – Jay Stay Paid
4. Gucci Mane – The State Vs. Radric Davis
5. UGK – UGK IV Life
6. Doom – Born Like This
7. Playboy Tre – Liquor Store Mascot
8. DJ Paul – Scale-A-Ton (Skeleton)
9. Rick Ross – Deeper Than Rap
10. Ghostface Killah – Ghostdini: The Wizard Of Poetry
11. Tanya Morgan – Brooklynatti
12. Freeway – Philadelphia Freeway 2
13. Cam’ron – Crime Pays
14. Fashawn – Boy Meets World
15. Project Pat – Real Recognize Real
16. Finale – A Pipe Dream And A Promise
17. 50 Cent – Before I Self Destruct
18. Skyzoo – The Salvation
19. Juvenile – Cocky And Confident
20. Juicy J – Hustle Til I Die
21. Mos Def – The Ecstatic
22. Camp Lo – Stone And Rob Caught On Tape
23. The Alchemist – Chemical Warfare
24. Blaq Poet – The Blaqprint
25. Royce Da 5’9” – Street Hop

whiney going hard atm

it's gucci time

haha

More of a casual rap fan here fwiw...

Describing yourself as a casual fan of a genre, then immediately making sweeping, generalized claims about that genre doesn't usually work out in anyone's favor.

sonned by ksh on a straight logic tip = time to look in the mirror

Look for the sequel tomorrow in noted ILX thread Most ridiculous "news" item on Pitchfork regarding the horribly overhyped crapfest known as Wavves!

7. Playboy Tre – Liquor Store Mascot

^this is a mixtape ;) but yeh

Voted for B&S just on general grounds that I like their records more than most others, but on second thought maybe shouldn't have as I see The Life Pursuit as a big step back from Dear Catastrophe Waitress. Love that Art Brut album though have to concede that it would never occur to me to listen to it straight through. But this is fairly placed given the inexplicable absence of "Formed a Band" from the 100 tracks.

as far as stuart murdoch goes, i like god help the girl a lot more than the life pursuit.

i havent listened to the life pursuit in 3 or 4 years but i still get 'the blues are still blue' stuck in my head sometimes

i really like five of these album and probably voted for around three of them. \

i wish people would bitch less on these type of threads, i think it makes people who voted for said album less likely to talk about them.

anyways yeah Spoon, by far the best band from the 2000's.

i met Stuart Murdoch just this year and i talked to him in him about how much i love The Life Pursuit. i said something along the lines of i feel like i'm listening to a greatest hits album as it has so many catchy single. he loved my feed back and told me that he would tell the band about what i said...

i didn't like God Hlp the Girl at all.

haha, Help

how come on both lists (tracks and albums) #100 is fucking amazing

we wanted to grab billstevejim's attention