haha
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link
More of a casual rap fan here fwiw...
Describing yourself as a casual fan of a genre, then immediately making sweeping, generalized claims about that genre doesn't usually work out in anyone's favor.
― ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
sonned by ksh on a straight logic tip = time to look in the mirror
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Look for the sequel tomorrow in noted ILX thread Most ridiculous "news" item on Pitchfork regarding the horribly overhyped crapfest known as Wavves!
― ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
7. Playboy Tre – Liquor Store Mascot
^this is a mixtape ;) but yeh
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Voted for B&S just on general grounds that I like their records more than most others, but on second thought maybe shouldn't have as I see The Life Pursuit as a big step back from Dear Catastrophe Waitress. Love that Art Brut album though have to concede that it would never occur to me to listen to it straight through. But this is fairly placed given the inexplicable absence of "Formed a Band" from the 100 tracks.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 8 July 2010 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
as far as stuart murdoch goes, i like god help the girl a lot more than the life pursuit.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 July 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i havent listened to the life pursuit in 3 or 4 years but i still get 'the blues are still blue' stuck in my head sometimes
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i really like five of these album and probably voted for around three of them. \
i wish people would bitch less on these type of threads, i think it makes people who voted for said album less likely to talk about them.
anyways yeah Spoon, by far the best band from the 2000's.
― Boo Radley (Bee OK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i met Stuart Murdoch just this year and i talked to him in him about how much i love The Life Pursuit. i said something along the lines of i feel like i'm listening to a greatest hits album as it has so many catchy single. he loved my feed back and told me that he would tell the band about what i said...
― Boo Radley (Bee OK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't like God Hlp the Girl at all.
― Boo Radley (Bee OK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, Help
― Boo Radley (Bee OK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
how come on both lists (tracks and albums) #100 is fucking amazing
― billstevejim, Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
we wanted to grab billstevejim's attention
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Fever Ray does work really well as an album, but I still prefer to listen to individual tracks from it than the whole album in one go - which is my personal determinant.
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 4:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
i will be rong then and agree with what you weren't saying. SS works great as an album, FR works only as a set of brilliant tracks padded out with some okay ones that i'd rather skip. i mean, it works better to the extent that you're otherwise engaged or hi, but otherwise gets dull before it's over. realize that i'm alone in thinking this.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 July 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
they both work extremely well as albums. Challenging Opinion, i know.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 8 July 2010 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Whiney. Uhh, thanks (?) for posting the list. Nice to know you value other people's opinions! Some of those are decent, at best, to my ears. Raekwon's probably the only one I would passionately single out.
― untrue pitch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
You did the right thing.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 8 July 2010 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link
dude... i think having someone take you seriously enough to post a list of albums is about the best response you could get. xpost
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 8 July 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
if i found people bitching about the albums i voted for, i'd definitely be MORE likely to talk about them
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link
tarot sport is a load of promising noisy dance-jams that go absolutely fucking nowhere
It doesn't need to go anywhere! Repetition and build, dude.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I disagree that the relatively low placing of OK Cowboy means that Wearemonster won't show up - the latter is much more of a critical placeholder and it possibly feels less dated than Vitalic.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyway the best thing about these album polls is that records can place quite high that are totally off my radar and presumably that of lots of other posters too. I'd never even heard of Paavoharju before they appeared in the 2008 poll, and I certainly didn't know they had a dedicated following. And it's a good album.
You don't really get that with the tracks poll to the same extent because there's more consensus. Maybe the 00s was just more a singles decade overall?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I never got on with OK Cowboy, personally- I felt it had similar problems to e.g. Justice, with that over-compressed, harsh, bass-less electro sound. I've not heard it over a proper sound system, though- sounds as if it's a club record?
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Vitalic is a predecessor to Justice in many ways but he's a lot more connected to the dancefloor than they are - his tracks all have this enormous momentum whereas Justice's beats jerk and pull back and change direction, they're a lot less kinetic.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
vitalic's sound is also a lot cleaner and sleeker, justice's synths are fuzzy and noisy and bothersome.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh come on, Vitalic is pretty fucking scuzzy/fuzzy/noisy. Admittedly not Justice level but he's most of the way there. He's much much better and making scuzzy synth-rock noises though.
The other difference is that there's no way that Justice could ever make something as gorgeous and affecting as The Past.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:16 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah, i guess if you're thinking of "my friend dario" or "repair machines", i was thinking more along the "poney part 1" lines
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link
oh shit i forgot how incredible the break in "my friend dario" is though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2RQAlnxnTk
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah this is key for me, I found the Justice album pretty one-note but there's a lot more light and shade to OK Cowboy.
― Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 8 July 2010 10:20 (fourteen years ago) link
This is because you have not yet understood the 'irresistible force' and 'immovable object' paradox. Or, I should say, the 'Taylor Swift' and 'Animal Collective' paradox.
― emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh wow, My Friend Dario is so much worse than I remember it being. There was a time I really liked it, but even then I was fully aware that it was just a knockoff version of Felix da Housecat's Watching Cars Go By.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link
But Watching Cars Go By doesn't have anywhere near the sense of build of My Friend Dario, the Felix track doesn't take your head off in the same way.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
The Vitalic album is awesome if only for "La Rock 01", which is one of my favorite tracks of the past decade.
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link
always always liked Poney (the part that lex posted upthread) better than la rock 01.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I am the sort of dance dilettante you purists hate; fwiw I voted for OK Cowboy. I don't even know why I bought it; prob. reading about it here somewhere?
― Euler, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
It's actually a terrific example of how do to a dilettante-friendly dance album well.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Personally I love watching the lex and tuomas make fun of stuff they hate. it wouldn't be a poll thread without that. It's amusing.I would love it if they post on the best heavy rock & metal tracks/albums rundown when it happens next month and do their Statler & Waldorf thing, it would be funny!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
you have a really weird idea of fun
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
well he is a metal fan, you have to make allowances
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
WAKE UP O SLUGGARD
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp yeah having dissenting opinions around is cool but don't treat them too much like a novelty since those guys usually have good insight on the stuff that they do like
lex's posts in these poll threads have helped me to appreciate some of the r&b stuff that i probably would otherwise have never bothered listening to, which is awesome
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
otoh, whingeing about indie pop/ "I don't understand" does get a bit repetitive tbh
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
agreed 100% - lex is a v astute and compelling critic on subjects he puts effort into (R&B, dance, tennis) - if I have a gripe with him it concerns his refusal to even attempt to engage with stuff he doesn't like so much. although he's getting a lot better at sticking to his areas IMO
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Much better put than my unnecessary snark, thanks acoleuthic and sorry Lex & Tuomas.
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
when did s4rge set his alarm for?
― iSleighBellsTellem (zvookster), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
it was like three hours from now right
0/20 so far I think, though the only reason I didn't vote for Two Suns wz just plain stupid forgetfulness...
I'm also glad The Woods made it, since Jumpers (which I did vote for) wz left off the tracks list...
― is this the end of zombie Shakespeare? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not so much about Lex not being open to things, because I think even ilxors of the most catholic persuasion could be guilty of close-mindedness from time to time. He also really knows his shit within the tight-fit sphere of his taste.
To his credit, Lex is on the record as saying he does go out and listen to things like Animal Collective for educational purposes, or at least to make a point/prove that he isn't close-minded about other styles. So it's not so much about how willing he is to experiment (to an extent).
This is more about the irrational way lex expresses himself on these poll threads. Sometimes this apparent refusal to accept other people's tastes is hilarious, but other times it's quite frustrating. Especially when every time a rock or indie track gets posted, the reaction is plain jihadist in its delivery, getting in the way of people who might like to discuss said music in a more positive light.
It's as if Lex feels that if he tries hard enough, he'll eventually be able to recruit people to his cause, but often his arguments hold as much water as your average "rockist" stance.
It's the violent non-sequitors I have trouble with - such as the argument that twee/hippie aesthetics are immature, even unhealthily so; yet listening to crudely misogynist hiphop and Disney-styled country-teenpop is just fine and perfectly adult.
I've known a lot of people like Lex in my time - most of them, surprisingly enough, were metalheads, and decent people all round. I admire in a way, this acute sense of self that manifests itself by pushing out any objectivity in their lives. They express themselves through a hard-line set of personal rules and values, and react with violent shock when that worldview is challenged.
All the same, I wouldn't want Lex out of these poll debates, even if he'd prefer I were not there - his posts might sometimes make me want to eat my own fingers, but I know I can do the same thing to a number of posters on this board, and it's reactionary posts like his that keep music discussion alive.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think any of this should distract from the fact that if you voted for Los Campesinos you are scientifically proven to be a paedophile.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link