ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS

sonned by ksh on a straight logic tip = time to look in the mirror

Look for the sequel tomorrow in noted ILX thread Most ridiculous "news" item on Pitchfork regarding the horribly overhyped crapfest known as Wavves!

7. Playboy Tre – Liquor Store Mascot

^this is a mixtape ;) but yeh

Voted for B&S just on general grounds that I like their records more than most others, but on second thought maybe shouldn't have as I see The Life Pursuit as a big step back from Dear Catastrophe Waitress. Love that Art Brut album though have to concede that it would never occur to me to listen to it straight through. But this is fairly placed given the inexplicable absence of "Formed a Band" from the 100 tracks.

as far as stuart murdoch goes, i like god help the girl a lot more than the life pursuit.

i havent listened to the life pursuit in 3 or 4 years but i still get 'the blues are still blue' stuck in my head sometimes

i really like five of these album and probably voted for around three of them. \

i wish people would bitch less on these type of threads, i think it makes people who voted for said album less likely to talk about them.

anyways yeah Spoon, by far the best band from the 2000's.

i met Stuart Murdoch just this year and i talked to him in him about how much i love The Life Pursuit. i said something along the lines of i feel like i'm listening to a greatest hits album as it has so many catchy single. he loved my feed back and told me that he would tell the band about what i said...

i didn't like God Hlp the Girl at all.

haha, Help

how come on both lists (tracks and albums) #100 is fucking amazing

we wanted to grab billstevejim's attention

Fever Ray does work really well as an album, but I still prefer to listen to individual tracks from it than the whole album in one go - which is my personal determinant.

― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 4:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

i will be rong then and agree with what you weren't saying. SS works great as an album, FR works only as a set of brilliant tracks padded out with some okay ones that i'd rather skip. i mean, it works better to the extent that you're otherwise engaged or hi, but otherwise gets dull before it's over. realize that i'm alone in thinking this.

they both work extremely well as albums. Challenging Opinion, i know.

Whiney. Uhh, thanks (?) for posting the list. Nice to know you value other people's opinions! Some of those are decent, at best, to my ears. Raekwon's probably the only one I would passionately single out.

we wanted to grab billstevejim's attention

You did the right thing.

dude... i think having someone take you seriously enough to post a list of albums is about the best response you could get. xpost

i wish people would bitch less on these type of threads, i think it makes people who voted for said album less likely to talk about them.

if i found people bitching about the albums i voted for, i'd definitely be MORE likely to talk about them

tarot sport is a load of promising noisy dance-jams that go absolutely fucking nowhere

It doesn't need to go anywhere! Repetition and build, dude.

I disagree that the relatively low placing of OK Cowboy means that Wearemonster won't show up - the latter is much more of a critical placeholder and it possibly feels less dated than Vitalic.

Anyway the best thing about these album polls is that records can place quite high that are totally off my radar and presumably that of lots of other posters too. I'd never even heard of Paavoharju before they appeared in the 2008 poll, and I certainly didn't know they had a dedicated following. And it's a good album.

You don't really get that with the tracks poll to the same extent because there's more consensus. Maybe the 00s was just more a singles decade overall?

I never got on with OK Cowboy, personally- I felt it had similar problems to e.g. Justice, with that over-compressed, harsh, bass-less electro sound. I've not heard it over a proper sound system, though- sounds as if it's a club record?

I think Vitalic is a predecessor to Justice in many ways but he's a lot more connected to the dancefloor than they are - his tracks all have this enormous momentum whereas Justice's beats jerk and pull back and change direction, they're a lot less kinetic.

vitalic's sound is also a lot cleaner and sleeker, justice's synths are fuzzy and noisy and bothersome.

Oh come on, Vitalic is pretty fucking scuzzy/fuzzy/noisy. Admittedly not Justice level but he's most of the way there. He's much much better and making scuzzy synth-rock noises though.

The other difference is that there's no way that Justice could ever make something as gorgeous and affecting as The Past.

oh yeah, i guess if you're thinking of "my friend dario" or "repair machines", i was thinking more along the "poney part 1" lines

oh shit i forgot how incredible the break in "my friend dario" is though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2RQAlnxnTk

The other difference is that there's no way that Justice could ever make something as gorgeous and affecting as The Past.

Yeah this is key for me, I found the Justice album pretty one-note but there's a lot more light and shade to OK Cowboy.

if i found people bitching about the albums i voted for, i'd definitely be MORE likely to talk about them

This is because you have not yet understood the 'irresistible force' and 'immovable object' paradox. Or, I should say, the 'Taylor Swift' and 'Animal Collective' paradox.

Oh wow, My Friend Dario is so much worse than I remember it being. There was a time I really liked it, but even then I was fully aware that it was just a knockoff version of Felix da Housecat's Watching Cars Go By.

But Watching Cars Go By doesn't have anywhere near the sense of build of My Friend Dario, the Felix track doesn't take your head off in the same way.

The Vitalic album is awesome if only for "La Rock 01", which is one of my favorite tracks of the past decade.

always always liked Poney (the part that lex posted upthread) better than la rock 01.

I am the sort of dance dilettante you purists hate; fwiw I voted for OK Cowboy. I don't even know why I bought it; prob. reading about it here somewhere?

It's actually a terrific example of how do to a dilettante-friendly dance album well.

i wish people would bitch less on these type of threads, i think it makes people who voted for said album less likely to talk about them.

Personally I love watching the lex and tuomas make fun of stuff they hate. it wouldn't be a poll thread without that. It's amusing.
I would love it if they post on the best heavy rock & metal tracks/albums rundown when it happens next month and do their Statler & Waldorf thing, it would be funny!

you have a really weird idea of fun

well he is a metal fan, you have to make allowances

WAKE UP O SLUGGARD

xxxp yeah having dissenting opinions around is cool but don't treat them too much like a novelty since those guys usually have good insight on the stuff that they do like

lex's posts in these poll threads have helped me to appreciate some of the r&b stuff that i probably would otherwise have never bothered listening to, which is awesome

otoh, whingeing about indie pop/ "I don't understand" does get a bit repetitive tbh

lex's posts in these poll threads have helped me to appreciate some of the r&b stuff that i probably would otherwise have never bothered listening to, which is awesome

agreed 100% - lex is a v astute and compelling critic on subjects he puts effort into (R&B, dance, tennis) - if I have a gripe with him it concerns his refusal to even attempt to engage with stuff he doesn't like so much. although he's getting a lot better at sticking to his areas IMO

Much better put than my unnecessary snark, thanks acoleuthic and sorry Lex & Tuomas.

when did s4rge set his alarm for?

it was like three hours from now right

0/20 so far I think, though the only reason I didn't vote for Two Suns wz just plain stupid forgetfulness...

I'm also glad The Woods made it, since Jumpers (which I did vote for) wz left off the tracks list...

It's not so much about Lex not being open to things, because I think even ilxors of the most catholic persuasion could be guilty of close-mindedness from time to time. He also really knows his shit within the tight-fit sphere of his taste.

To his credit, Lex is on the record as saying he does go out and listen to things like Animal Collective for educational purposes, or at least to make a point/prove that he isn't close-minded about other styles. So it's not so much about how willing he is to experiment (to an extent).

This is more about the irrational way lex expresses himself on these poll threads. Sometimes this apparent refusal to accept other people's tastes is hilarious, but other times it's quite frustrating. Especially when every time a rock or indie track gets posted, the reaction is plain jihadist in its delivery, getting in the way of people who might like to discuss said music in a more positive light.

It's as if Lex feels that if he tries hard enough, he'll eventually be able to recruit people to his cause, but often his arguments hold as much water as your average "rockist" stance.

It's the violent non-sequitors I have trouble with - such as the argument that twee/hippie aesthetics are immature, even unhealthily so; yet listening to crudely misogynist hiphop and Disney-styled country-teenpop is just fine and perfectly adult.

I've known a lot of people like Lex in my time - most of them, surprisingly enough, were metalheads, and decent people all round. I admire in a way, this acute sense of self that manifests itself by pushing out any objectivity in their lives. They express themselves through a hard-line set of personal rules and values, and react with violent shock when that worldview is challenged.

All the same, I wouldn't want Lex out of these poll debates, even if he'd prefer I were not there - his posts might sometimes make me want to eat my own fingers, but I know I can do the same thing to a number of posters on this board, and it's reactionary posts like his that keep music discussion alive.

I don't think any of this should distract from the fact that if you voted for Los Campesinos you are scientifically proven to be a paedophile.

lol j0rdan will be happy 2 hear that

GIMME FICTION is so much better than gagaga and the other one

that's all