ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS

oh shit i forgot how incredible the break in "my friend dario" is though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2RQAlnxnTk

The other difference is that there's no way that Justice could ever make something as gorgeous and affecting as The Past.

Yeah this is key for me, I found the Justice album pretty one-note but there's a lot more light and shade to OK Cowboy.

if i found people bitching about the albums i voted for, i'd definitely be MORE likely to talk about them

This is because you have not yet understood the 'irresistible force' and 'immovable object' paradox. Or, I should say, the 'Taylor Swift' and 'Animal Collective' paradox.

Oh wow, My Friend Dario is so much worse than I remember it being. There was a time I really liked it, but even then I was fully aware that it was just a knockoff version of Felix da Housecat's Watching Cars Go By.

But Watching Cars Go By doesn't have anywhere near the sense of build of My Friend Dario, the Felix track doesn't take your head off in the same way.

The Vitalic album is awesome if only for "La Rock 01", which is one of my favorite tracks of the past decade.

always always liked Poney (the part that lex posted upthread) better than la rock 01.

I am the sort of dance dilettante you purists hate; fwiw I voted for OK Cowboy. I don't even know why I bought it; prob. reading about it here somewhere?

It's actually a terrific example of how do to a dilettante-friendly dance album well.

i wish people would bitch less on these type of threads, i think it makes people who voted for said album less likely to talk about them.

Personally I love watching the lex and tuomas make fun of stuff they hate. it wouldn't be a poll thread without that. It's amusing.
I would love it if they post on the best heavy rock & metal tracks/albums rundown when it happens next month and do their Statler & Waldorf thing, it would be funny!

you have a really weird idea of fun

well he is a metal fan, you have to make allowances

WAKE UP O SLUGGARD

xxxp yeah having dissenting opinions around is cool but don't treat them too much like a novelty since those guys usually have good insight on the stuff that they do like

lex's posts in these poll threads have helped me to appreciate some of the r&b stuff that i probably would otherwise have never bothered listening to, which is awesome

otoh, whingeing about indie pop/ "I don't understand" does get a bit repetitive tbh

lex's posts in these poll threads have helped me to appreciate some of the r&b stuff that i probably would otherwise have never bothered listening to, which is awesome

agreed 100% - lex is a v astute and compelling critic on subjects he puts effort into (R&B, dance, tennis) - if I have a gripe with him it concerns his refusal to even attempt to engage with stuff he doesn't like so much. although he's getting a lot better at sticking to his areas IMO

Much better put than my unnecessary snark, thanks acoleuthic and sorry Lex & Tuomas.

when did s4rge set his alarm for?

it was like three hours from now right

0/20 so far I think, though the only reason I didn't vote for Two Suns wz just plain stupid forgetfulness...

I'm also glad The Woods made it, since Jumpers (which I did vote for) wz left off the tracks list...

It's not so much about Lex not being open to things, because I think even ilxors of the most catholic persuasion could be guilty of close-mindedness from time to time. He also really knows his shit within the tight-fit sphere of his taste.

To his credit, Lex is on the record as saying he does go out and listen to things like Animal Collective for educational purposes, or at least to make a point/prove that he isn't close-minded about other styles. So it's not so much about how willing he is to experiment (to an extent).

This is more about the irrational way lex expresses himself on these poll threads. Sometimes this apparent refusal to accept other people's tastes is hilarious, but other times it's quite frustrating. Especially when every time a rock or indie track gets posted, the reaction is plain jihadist in its delivery, getting in the way of people who might like to discuss said music in a more positive light.

It's as if Lex feels that if he tries hard enough, he'll eventually be able to recruit people to his cause, but often his arguments hold as much water as your average "rockist" stance.

It's the violent non-sequitors I have trouble with - such as the argument that twee/hippie aesthetics are immature, even unhealthily so; yet listening to crudely misogynist hiphop and Disney-styled country-teenpop is just fine and perfectly adult.

I've known a lot of people like Lex in my time - most of them, surprisingly enough, were metalheads, and decent people all round. I admire in a way, this acute sense of self that manifests itself by pushing out any objectivity in their lives. They express themselves through a hard-line set of personal rules and values, and react with violent shock when that worldview is challenged.

All the same, I wouldn't want Lex out of these poll debates, even if he'd prefer I were not there - his posts might sometimes make me want to eat my own fingers, but I know I can do the same thing to a number of posters on this board, and it's reactionary posts like his that keep music discussion alive.

I don't think any of this should distract from the fact that if you voted for Los Campesinos you are scientifically proven to be a paedophile.

lol j0rdan will be happy 2 hear that

GIMME FICTION is so much better than gagaga and the other one

that's all

I don't think any of this should distract from the fact that if you voted for Los Campesinos you are scientifically proven to be a paedophile.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:53 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

truthbomb!

imo The Lex would be better off not listening to Animal Collective type stuff instead of just sampling enough to have ammo to bitch on 200 threads about it

i give him permission to never listen to the animal collective for educational purposes or any other purpose.

btw I promise to not get irrational about anything further on this thread except lcd soundsystem

dont make promises you can't keep

ok fine maybe dirty projectors will receive a quizzical look

the argument that twee/hippie aesthetics are immature, even unhealthily so; yet listening to crudely misogynist hiphop and Disney-styled country-teenpop is just fine and perfectly adult.

I think lex's point is that he likes musicians who act their age. Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys; teenpop works because it's teenagers being teenagers; whereas twee/hippie stuff can be repulsive because it often consists of grown adults acting like toddlers w/r/t cutesy aesthetic themes, lyrics, sounds, unhealthy obsession with childhood reminiscing and whatnot.

Btw I completely agree w/ lex on twee shit (abhorrent!), not so much on AnCo (who are frequently sublime).

Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys

Where to start with this one?

i'm fine w/ppl saying what they hate; i'm less fine with ppl saying what they hate for the 500th time.

Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys

Explains why I hate most of it.

I think lex's point is that he likes musicians who act their age. Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys; teenpop works because it's teenagers being teenagers; whereas twee/hippie stuff can be repulsive because it often consists of grown adults acting like toddlers w/r/t cutesy aesthetic themes, lyrics, sounds, unhealthy obsession with childhood reminiscing and whatnot.

holy fucking shit @ this post

Massive fucking rolleyes at this latest turn in the conversation.

lol O_O

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WAKE UP JORDAN AND POST THE NEXT ALBUM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

PLEASE

^^^this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRhXsiOud-I

Twee + misogynist hip-hop... lovely.

i smell an unexplored genre crossover...

lol i just noticed that sarge was posting at 4:30 in the morning est

A lot of the misogyny in pop (or rap or rock) is pretty immature stuff if you ask me but yeah I can see why people take particular issue with the twee/back-to-childhood aesthetic - I'm no fan of it myself but that's mainly 'cos I find it annoying rather than questionable (though I'm not saying it isn't questionable, it's just that it's annoying first and foremost) - it's that whole nursery rhyme side of Syd Barrett-type teapot psychedelia which I've never really cared for. That said, it doesn't bother me so much with Animal Collective, even though it's obviously a part of their 'thing' (I guess it's most prevalent on Feels, which I don't like so much though maybe I should save all this on the off chance it turns up later in the list).

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WAKE UP JORDAN AND POST THE NEXT ALBUM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

PLEASE

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTMFM

i smell an unexplored genre crossover...

Loads of songs about how you smoked weed at a picnic on Primrose Hill and then went back and fucked three hoes all night and then you got up and all ate a breakfast cereal with a picture of a panda on the box.

I find it annoying rather than questionable (though I'm not saying it isn't questionable, it's just that it's annoying first and foremost)

This ^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esVEocL5uWg

????

OMG