0/20 so far I think, though the only reason I didn't vote for Two Suns wz just plain stupid forgetfulness...
I'm also glad The Woods made it, since Jumpers (which I did vote for) wz left off the tracks list...
― is this the end of zombie Shakespeare? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not so much about Lex not being open to things, because I think even ilxors of the most catholic persuasion could be guilty of close-mindedness from time to time. He also really knows his shit within the tight-fit sphere of his taste.
To his credit, Lex is on the record as saying he does go out and listen to things like Animal Collective for educational purposes, or at least to make a point/prove that he isn't close-minded about other styles. So it's not so much about how willing he is to experiment (to an extent).
This is more about the irrational way lex expresses himself on these poll threads. Sometimes this apparent refusal to accept other people's tastes is hilarious, but other times it's quite frustrating. Especially when every time a rock or indie track gets posted, the reaction is plain jihadist in its delivery, getting in the way of people who might like to discuss said music in a more positive light.
It's as if Lex feels that if he tries hard enough, he'll eventually be able to recruit people to his cause, but often his arguments hold as much water as your average "rockist" stance.
It's the violent non-sequitors I have trouble with - such as the argument that twee/hippie aesthetics are immature, even unhealthily so; yet listening to crudely misogynist hiphop and Disney-styled country-teenpop is just fine and perfectly adult.
I've known a lot of people like Lex in my time - most of them, surprisingly enough, were metalheads, and decent people all round. I admire in a way, this acute sense of self that manifests itself by pushing out any objectivity in their lives. They express themselves through a hard-line set of personal rules and values, and react with violent shock when that worldview is challenged.
All the same, I wouldn't want Lex out of these poll debates, even if he'd prefer I were not there - his posts might sometimes make me want to eat my own fingers, but I know I can do the same thing to a number of posters on this board, and it's reactionary posts like his that keep music discussion alive.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think any of this should distract from the fact that if you voted for Los Campesinos you are scientifically proven to be a paedophile.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
lol j0rdan will be happy 2 hear that
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
GIMME FICTION is so much better than gagaga and the other one
that's all
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think any of this should distract from the fact that if you voted for Los Campesinos you are scientifically proven to be a paedophile.― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:53 (1 minute ago) Bookmark
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:53 (1 minute ago) Bookmark
truthbomb!
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
imo The Lex would be better off not listening to Animal Collective type stuff instead of just sampling enough to have ammo to bitch on 200 threads about it
― does a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ sh!t in the woods? (some dude), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i give him permission to never listen to the animal collective for educational purposes or any other purpose.
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
btw I promise to not get irrational about anything further on this thread except lcd soundsystem
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
dont make promises you can't keep
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ok fine maybe dirty projectors will receive a quizzical look
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
the argument that twee/hippie aesthetics are immature, even unhealthily so; yet listening to crudely misogynist hiphop and Disney-styled country-teenpop is just fine and perfectly adult.
I think lex's point is that he likes musicians who act their age. Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys; teenpop works because it's teenagers being teenagers; whereas twee/hippie stuff can be repulsive because it often consists of grown adults acting like toddlers w/r/t cutesy aesthetic themes, lyrics, sounds, unhealthy obsession with childhood reminiscing and whatnot.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Btw I completely agree w/ lex on twee shit (abhorrent!), not so much on AnCo (who are frequently sublime).
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys
Where to start with this one?
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm fine w/ppl saying what they hate; i'm less fine with ppl saying what they hate for the 500th time.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Explains why I hate most of it.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
holy fucking shit @ this post
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Massive fucking rolleyes at this latest turn in the conversation.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
lol O_O
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WAKE UP JORDAN AND POST THE NEXT ALBUM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
PLEASE
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^this
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRhXsiOud-I
― ILX trolls and "autistic" use of the N-word (crüt), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Twee + misogynist hip-hop... lovely.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i smell an unexplored genre crossover...
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i just noticed that sarge was posting at 4:30 in the morning est
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
A lot of the misogyny in pop (or rap or rock) is pretty immature stuff if you ask me but yeah I can see why people take particular issue with the twee/back-to-childhood aesthetic - I'm no fan of it myself but that's mainly 'cos I find it annoying rather than questionable (though I'm not saying it isn't questionable, it's just that it's annoying first and foremost) - it's that whole nursery rhyme side of Syd Barrett-type teapot psychedelia which I've never really cared for. That said, it doesn't bother me so much with Animal Collective, even though it's obviously a part of their 'thing' (I guess it's most prevalent on Feels, which I don't like so much though maybe I should save all this on the off chance it turns up later in the list).
― Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WAKE UP JORDAN AND POST THE NEXT ALBUM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATEPLEASE― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
OTMFM
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Loads of songs about how you smoked weed at a picnic on Primrose Hill and then went back and fucked three hoes all night and then you got up and all ate a breakfast cereal with a picture of a panda on the box.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I find it annoying rather than questionable (though I'm not saying it isn't questionable, it's just that it's annoying first and foremost)
This ^
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esVEocL5uWg
????
― The Reverend, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
― Neil S, Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:06 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Guys being guys is supposed to be a good thing I reckon?
― skip, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ciderspace.co.uk/photos/history/huish-park-parachute-newcastle.jpg
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't say it was a good thing, I just pointed out it doesn't push the same buttons as adults acting like toddlers. And that's why it's not contradictory for lex to love one aesthetic and despise the other.
xp
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
HERE WE GO
― ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
ksh in da house
http://www.tne.net.au/~abdaacts/images/alleluia.gif
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
looooooooool jordan
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
80. LOW Drums and Guns (2007) [209.5 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]http://betterpropaganda.com/images/artwork/Drums_and_Guns-Low_480.jpg
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
get low, get low
― ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
And lo there was Low
― Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
too LOW
― ᶠᵧᶸₒᶜᵤᵏ (LOLK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I kept meaning to check that one out and never got round to it. I basically like almost everything they've done so I should probably give this one a spin.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
if i'd have voted that would've been my #1
― ᶠᵧᶸₒᶜᵤᵏ (LOLK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 <3 <3
Love you Low, come back soon.
― Simon H., Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
if i'd have voted ranked my ballot that would've been my #1
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Drums & Guns is one (1) decent mastering away from being perfect.
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
That was my #1. And yeah, way too low for Low. I love other things they've done but this one is just transcendental.
― emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Another ok-ish album I haven't gone back to much. It was an improvement on The Great Destroyer though.
― Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Low is the bomb.
Seriously, this thread got really horrible, ppl need to stop acting like such colossal pussies every time some dumb record they don't like makes the SUPER IMPORTANT ilm albums poll list.
also, hip hip is like the poster child genre for arrested development! i mean, jesus it's full of like 40 year old dudes trying to act 30 and 35 year old dudes trying to act 25!
like i love hip hop and love tons of really ignorant shit just because it is rad as fuck, but c'mon trying to take some kinda weird moral high ground over twee shit as if it's "unhealthy" or some cod psychology bullshit is reeeeeeeallly fucking reaching.
lex you are a smart guy but you basically become like the glam version of alex in NYC when you talk about any kind of rock music.
― the reverend dr. william wiggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link