ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS

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Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys

Explains why I hate most of it.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I think lex's point is that he likes musicians who act their age. Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys; teenpop works because it's teenagers being teenagers; whereas twee/hippie stuff can be repulsive because it often consists of grown adults acting like toddlers w/r/t cutesy aesthetic themes, lyrics, sounds, unhealthy obsession with childhood reminiscing and whatnot.

holy fucking shit @ this post

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Massive fucking rolleyes at this latest turn in the conversation.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

lol O_O

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WAKE UP JORDAN AND POST THE NEXT ALBUM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

PLEASE

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^this

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Twee + misogynist hip-hop... lovely.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i smell an unexplored genre crossover...

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

lol i just noticed that sarge was posting at 4:30 in the morning est

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of the misogyny in pop (or rap or rock) is pretty immature stuff if you ask me but yeah I can see why people take particular issue with the twee/back-to-childhood aesthetic - I'm no fan of it myself but that's mainly 'cos I find it annoying rather than questionable (though I'm not saying it isn't questionable, it's just that it's annoying first and foremost) - it's that whole nursery rhyme side of Syd Barrett-type teapot psychedelia which I've never really cared for. That said, it doesn't bother me so much with Animal Collective, even though it's obviously a part of their 'thing' (I guess it's most prevalent on Feels, which I don't like so much though maybe I should save all this on the off chance it turns up later in the list).

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WAKE UP JORDAN AND POST THE NEXT ALBUM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

PLEASE

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:14 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTMFM

Neil S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i smell an unexplored genre crossover...

Loads of songs about how you smoked weed at a picnic on Primrose Hill and then went back and fucked three hoes all night and then you got up and all ate a breakfast cereal with a picture of a panda on the box.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I find it annoying rather than questionable (though I'm not saying it isn't questionable, it's just that it's annoying first and foremost)

This ^

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esVEocL5uWg

????

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys

Where to start with this one?

― Neil S, Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:06 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Guys being guys is supposed to be a good thing I reckon?

skip, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't say it was a good thing, I just pointed out it doesn't push the same buttons as adults acting like toddlers. And that's why it's not contradictory for lex to love one aesthetic and despise the other.

xp

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

HERE WE GO

ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ksh in da house

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.tne.net.au/~abdaacts/images/alleluia.gif

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

looooooooool jordan

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

80. LOW Drums and Guns (2007) [209.5 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
http://betterpropaganda.com/images/artwork/Drums_and_Guns-Low_480.jpg

altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

get low, get low

ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

And lo there was Low

Cooper Temple Paws (NickB), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

too LOW

ᶠᵧᶸₒᶜᵤᵏ (LOLK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I kept meaning to check that one out and never got round to it. I basically like almost everything they've done so I should probably give this one a spin.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

if i'd have voted that would've been my #1

ᶠᵧᶸₒᶜᵤᵏ (LOLK), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

Love you Low, come back soon.

Simon H., Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

if i'd have voted ranked my ballot that would've been my #1

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Drums & Guns is one (1) decent mastering away from being perfect.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

That was my #1. And yeah, way too low for Low. I love other things they've done but this one is just transcendental.

emil.y, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Another ok-ish album I haven't gone back to much. It was an improvement on The Great Destroyer though.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Low is the bomb.

Seriously, this thread got really horrible, ppl need to stop acting like such colossal pussies every time some dumb record they don't like makes the SUPER IMPORTANT ilm albums poll list.

I think lex's point is that he likes musicians who act their age. Hip-hop, misogynist or not, is basically guys being guys; teenpop works because it's teenagers being teenagers; whereas twee/hippie stuff can be repulsive because it often consists of grown adults acting like toddlers w/r/t cutesy aesthetic themes, lyrics, sounds, unhealthy obsession with childhood reminiscing and whatnot.

also, hip hip is like the poster child genre for arrested development! i mean, jesus it's full of like 40 year old dudes trying to act 30 and 35 year old dudes trying to act 25!

like i love hip hop and love tons of really ignorant shit just because it is rad as fuck, but c'mon trying to take some kinda weird moral high ground over twee shit as if it's "unhealthy" or some cod psychology bullshit is reeeeeeeallly fucking reaching.

lex you are a smart guy but you basically become like the glam version of alex in NYC when you talk about any kind of rock music.

the reverend dr. william wiggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I still haven't heard this album!

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

can we just talk about the albums instead of each other for a change

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

listen to it then louis.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

OK FINE

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

"glam version of alex in NYC"

such a vision...

scott seward, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

For me all of Low's albums seem to blend together into a muddle of 3-star competence. I do pull out the Christmas EP every year though.

skip, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

can we just talk about the albums instead of each other for a change

― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:43 AM (34 seconds ago)

^^

ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

if only dom could see us now

79. WOLF PARADE Apologies to the Queen Mary (2005) [210.5 points, 10 votes]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/ApologiestotheQueenMary.jpg

altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ok now sell me Wolf Parade

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

listen to it then louis.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

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so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

that got my last place vote -- i loved it in 05 but haven't listened to it in fooooorever -- kinda scared tbh

altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Apologies to the Queen Mary people who voted for this album.

They'll believe in anything, amirite?

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

amazon.co.uk will sell you that wolf parade album for £6.97 louis

ILX trolls and "autistic" use of the N-word (crüt), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link


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