ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS

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is it "Drum's"? sorry

altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i want to say no punctuation?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i've been repping for her album in this thread! it's a good album! but especially in retrospect its commercial failure is a lot more obvious

tho kylie somehow built a 20-year-and-counting career out of precisely the same amount of personality, so...

xps

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xp would have been extremely high on my imaginary ballot

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

just a bore who lucked into some good songwriters and shiny production.

― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:22 (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

perfect description. also the second part of that can be used for my other love in 00s pop, britney's blackout. replace 'just a bore' with 'just some drunk who...'

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, yay! Come and Get It made it. Worried that it might have been too old-skool ILM to survive in 05-09 land.

Rachel is/was the hot one from S Club 7, who then had a mediocre solo album (Funky Dory) and then THIS where Richard X and a bunch of people gifted her with interesting and good pop songs with really killer production that prefigured most of the schaffel/electropop take over by 6 months or so? My timeline might be off. It sold a brick, basically. (See: Blackout - Spears, Britney)

The point is, there's maybe two less-than-great songs on the whole album, and 'Nothing Good About This Goodbye' is one of the best songs of the decade.

Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Drum is a character on the record, so treat it as Drum Is Not Dead.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha. By the time it finally posted, everyone had made all my points, including the one re: Blackout.

Also, in retrospect Graduation is good but doesn't have the staying power of College Dropout or Late Registration, 808s def. >> Graduation.

Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

OKAY GUYS

that's gonna be the final one for a little bit, i'll do the remaining 8 (67-60) when i get back from work, around 6:30 pm EST -- sorry to britishes, etc and anyone who is "going out" tonight

altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

what is 6:30 est in real time?

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

If Recession didn't make it top 50 I cannot see more than... King? Cuban Linx? Carter II? making it top 50 :(

Aside from Kanye, obv, what about Hell Hath No Fury? I was hoping that would place well on here.

untrue pitch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it = 12:30 in london?

altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSTE7Ms4bJA

Shocked if only because I would have never heard of this album if not for ILM...

Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not really a HAA hater but i can't not see it as a pretty big step down after Discovery

HAA wasn't trying to do anything like what Discovery did, which basically was to play up their populist side to the point where every track seemed to make "Around The World" come across like an obtuse Squarepusher track; an album where the level of accessibility was centered around tracks like "Robot Rock" and "Technologic" but also contains things like "Steam Machine" (which btw !!!!!!!!!!) was pretty much bound to through people who got on the train there for a loop, but I don't see how anyone who knew "Da Funk" or "Revolution 909" or "Musique" or "Rollin and Scratchin" would be particularly fazed by it.

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

perfect description. also the second part of that can be used for my other love in 00s pop, britney's blackout. replace 'just a bore' with 'just some drunk who...'

i think britney had a lot more of a distinct presence, much more character, than either kylie or rachel. especially when she was drunk and drugged up!

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Liars! Been meaning to get into them for a while. This might be the added push needed to do so.

Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i think britney had a lot more of a distinct presence, much more character, than either kylie or rachel. especially when she was drunk and drugged up!

Not by the time Blackout came out, considering that its 3 singles feature the most robotic singing of her career.

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i really only ever go back to 3 tracks on that liars album (it fit when i was a kid, drum & the uncomfortable can, the other side of mt heart attack) but they are all SO GOOD that it placed on my ballot

johnny crunch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Wiping my tears as Parallax Error Beheads You looks ever more unlikely :'(

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

PLUS i genuinely find "roses" and "hey mama" quite touching - so much less contrived than anything from his emo-tune phase

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, July 8, 2010 10:11 AM Bookmark

Ahh, ok, I'm with you there. Both slipped my mind. I didn't like "Hey Mama" at the time (I found it too cutesy), but I find it charming now. "Roses" is great until it goes on for two minutes too long.

otmato (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

dunno if you are confusing character w/ reading stories about her on oh no they didnt to get a feel for what the album should sound like.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

also lol at the idea of hell hath no fury making it.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

correct punctuation is on the album cover ffs

davek it is ok we voted max tundra and we know we're right

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess dont see why it matters that rachel stevens is a bore or that her album was such a commercial flop. i mean i dont disagree w/ either

johnny crunch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked that liars album and i also can't imagine only listening to select tracks from it, it seemed like all one extended piece of music to me

i don't really like anything else by them though

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

And Kelley Polar makes for my 5th wrong album vote. :(

otmato (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i didnt think hell hath no fury was universally loved by the ilm rap crew, and it seems a rap album has to be in order to make these polls

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xposts Human After All is just okay. In a way I'm a bit depressed to listen to it, considering what they've done in the past. It's the classic example of how a perfect aesthetic can sometimes slip so easily into monotony and near self-parody.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I've grown tired of Liars, although Drum's Not Dead is probably the best of their re-engineered sound.

I love the Tromatic Reflexxions album. MES's 'drunk singing karaoke' vocals are at their recent best here

Rachel Stevens is probably the only thing on this list so far that I've never heard

Dan S, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone pointed out that fans of Homework wouldn't really be fazed. But the entire album (HAA) basically has no dynamics, which is incredibly frustrating to this fan of Homework. Let alone the huge comedown it is following Discovery, which just might be the hugest party since Thriller.

untrue pitch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

how the hell can you say something with both "Robot Rock" and "Emotion" has "no dynamics"

emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"Steam Machine" (which btw !!!!!!!!!!)

prob my fav track on HAA iirc

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Wiping my tears as Parallax Error Beheads You looks ever more unlikely :'(

― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, July 8, 2010 1:31 PM (26 minutes ago)

what i've heard from this album is outrageously annoying

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm a huge electronic/dance music listener - and get annoyed with the complaint that it's too repetitive - but I get bored with the repetition of Robot Rock after the first minute or so. There's no build up, momentum, and hardly any variation on the theme. And that's true of most of the album. The themes are often quite interesting and striking, but they don't develop into living/breathing compositions to me. I kind of took the album as an odd joke on DP's part (especially given the title), taking the piss, or whatever. Take a listen to those HAA tracks on Alive - and you'll hear the difference; they've clearly pumped some blood into them.

untrue pitch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

and, yeah, Robot Rock is a monster of a track on Alive.

untrue pitch, Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't like it on the album of course, but it was a monstrous way to start the Hyde Park show. With those two robot guys up there in the pyramid!! I'd never seen anything like it...

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

karl here is the towering peak of Parallax Error, irritatingly sans last 3 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJP7nCY0hs

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

they've clearly pumped some blood into them.

― untrue pitch, Thursday, July 8, 2010 1:59 PM (3 minutes ago)

On Alive 2007 those tracks actually GO somewhere, and like you said they feel revitalized and dynamic. On HAA they flatline. Even the radio edit of Robot Rock is draining, and that's probably the album's most obviously hooky track.

skip, Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

That final track on Parallax is incredible.

skip, Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think i voted for the max tundra but i do love that song and 'which song'

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I still maintain that Human After All is one of the '00s best albums and an absolute monstrous beast of insanely great tracks. It's their best album. Homework is the blueprint; Discovery is the fun side project; Human After All is the masterpiece.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know if you got my letter, but everyone thinks you're great :p

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Fact fans: I gave that song quite a lot of points on the tracks ballot. WHERE WERE Y'ALL

yeah 'which song' is awesome too. davek didn't you introduce a load of people to that record with 'will get fooled again'? error.

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

today is off to a better start, i think. i also voted for the wrong polar album.

exit through the (Tape Store), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I did? All I know is that I feel like I'm planet earth's no 1 Max Tundra street teamer, introduced quite a few people to his music, with much more success than Cardiacs hahha. We Got Fooled is astonishing though...replete with lyrics about the Jewish festival Pesach no less.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a good song but the lyrics are gonna put all but the most open-minded of people off

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Too Long / Steam Machine omgz so good

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

when this is all over i may liveblog listening to lj's votes and see where it takes me.

fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Daft Punk in 2007 was probably the greatest live show that I have ever attended. The album did the show as much justice as a recording of it is going to do.

gman59, Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

max tundra remains one of the worst things I've ever heard.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link


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