Rolling Country 2010

Yow, typos! Speaking of Family and Deer Tick, McAuley's voice reminds me of Roger Chapman's, called up for country duty, re pushing through country fatalism--but the word seems to be that album three isn't quite up to the first two? We'll see.

Also, fwiw, Old Crow Medicine Show also did a "Methamphetamine" song on their '08 album Tennessee Pusher. Only Drive By Truckers one I know offhand is "You And Your Crystal Meth"; no doubt I'd know more if I always listened closely to their words (which aren't always delivered in a manner that inspires me to do so.) Which other DBT songs qualify?

I tend to prefer OCMS's couple of cocaine songs to that one.

As for the Truckers: In addition to "You and Your Crystal Meth," "Outfit," from Decoration Day, includes the line, "Have fun but stay clear of the needle," in its chorus, and "Aftermath, USA" from A Blessing & A Curse, details a line about a bathtub full of crystal meth and a blood-spattered sink ("It's all worse than you think").

I think they do what Deer Tick and the Avetts, maybe, try to do, but more genially and perhaps more stoned. The electronics seem grafted on but again, so what.

I'll second all of that. Thought that Megafaun was a solid record, though I can easily see why it might not play to everyone's tastes.

3 relevant Singles Jukeboxings:

Laura Bell Bundy "Giddy On Up"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2505

Little Big Town, "Little White Church"

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2507

Train, "Hey Soul Sister" (since it's now officially a minor country hit)

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2027

Sony blocked the video at singlesjukebox, at least in my country, so went to Train's website. Wonder if anyone's playing the 6:45 version of "Hey, Soul Sister." I had to sit through the goddam vamping to hear this guy intone "tonight" and "one of my kind." I can hear why it's a hit, it's catchy bubblegum and it's funny--the line about chest hair and in general, the whole fucking thing is funny. I actually like "Save Me San Francisco" a lot better--great glam in the British tradition, kind of a slight late Move/ELO feel (note the pianos flourishing at the end). "Rock and roll and disco/Save me S.F." and they mention making coin or something in the Tenderloin. I mean shit, it's a great song. Guy got his gig because he can sing high and loud, so I'd guess he learned his shit in disco cover bands. He can sing.

Uh, Laura Bell Bundy, I hate her immediately, and I hate "Giddy on Up" and never want to hear that shit again. Not that I have anything against country-disco-funk, in the abstract it's kind of a cool track, but the minds of people who'd make such an inane video...terrible video, she's too old to dance around like that and I guess somebody somewhere sorta conflated some bad neo-westerns and Tarantino dance sequences...Laura Bell doesn't interest me at all as a sex object. I hate people who sit around and construct these kind of stupid video ideas for themselves and then dance around. She knows what cowboys smell like 'cause she goes thru their shirts, she's gonna fuck the one who isn't impressed by her or her stupid video, see what I mean? But sure, interesting enough as a track. And I guess Trace can do this kinda funk thing so she can too, I guess I'd like Laura Bell better if she were more like Lizzy Mercier Descloux or dressed in a robot suit or something.

I wrote about Ronnie Milsap recently, I missed the thing with him and Trace and Capitol, this single Milsap made to benefit EMTs and firefighters and Trace apparently had Capitol's approval to sing on it, but then they wanted a piece of it after the single hit and Trace left Capitol...

Found a copy of Freddie North's 1975 Cuss the Wind, which everyone else may know about. Really taut, incisive, varied arrangements in a very well-thought-out soul/country mode with blues guitar, strings, horns--and North's sorta Joe Simon wail over it all, and just amazing songs. Every track somewhat unexpected, every track great, including one about rural poverty in which the guy's wife falls into the river she's so worn out from working the fields, and an awesome cover of Tony Joe's "Rainy Night in Georgia" that if anything is better than Brook Benton's. A really great record, a Jerry Williams production so the arrangements are settings--never one knocked-off or slack moment, and his voice really cuts. He did the orig. version of "She's All I Got" that lotsa people did, and Cuss the Wind may be the great country-soul masterpiece of all time, runs about 29 minutes flat.

Cut-and-pasted Edd's Laura Bell Bundy graph over on the Jukebox, where it's now being agreed and disagreed with. Definitely think Laura Bell Bundy is way funnier (and way more catchy bubblegum) than Train myself (at least the Train I've listened to, which admittedly isn't a lot.)

Also, already posted this on Rolling Hard Rock, but it sort of fits here too, inasmuch as fiddles and '70s cornbelt boogie-rock connect to country. "Prog On The Prairie: Midwestern Bands Roll Over Beethoven":

http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/2010_201007-essay-prog.html

I wrote a long-ish review of the single and video for "Giddy On Up" a couple of months back (I'm surprised the single just now turned up on the Jukebox, since it officially dropped out of the country chart last week and "Drop On By" has been announced as the second single). I'm with Chuck on considering it one of my favorite singles of the year thus far-- though it's probably only my 3rd or 4th favorite song from the Shakin' half of Bundy's terrific album-- but I said that the video does the song a serious disservice, as Edd's response bears out.

Edd, what did you have to say about Ronnie Milsap? I've been picking up a few of his LPs lately, but haven't gone far into the 80s, or later.

Turns out the Latin song I heard and liked on the car radio over the weekend was in fact Chino (spelled it right this time!) and Nacho's "Mi Niña Bonita" -- so, nothing to do with Regional Mexican. Still thought I detected something country in its sound, which is not a feeling I've gotten from reggaeton before. But maybe it was just where I was driving.

It's more merengue than reggaeton anyway. It's okay, but there are dozens of merengue songs from the last decade that I like more, not that I usually know their names, because those details tend to wash over me when it comes to merengue. (The way it used to work when I was still dancing regularly is that I'd become familiar a merengue song from hearing it in a club and then maybe if I were lucky I'd find out later who it was by and what the title was.) The harmonies seem kind of 50ish/early 60sish (in an early rock or maybe R&B way). Possibly that is what you are hearing as country?

Tim, this was a good recent thread:

Ronnie Milsap

(xhuxk, I just discovered there is a pop/reggaeton version of that Chino y Nacho song, so if that's what you heard I can see how it wouldn't have sounded like merengue.)

(Every time I correct you about something there's always some fact I am missing. I should just stop.)

("correct")

I do the same thing, all the time. Anyway, this totally sounds right:

The harmonies seem kind of 50ish/early 60sish (in an early rock or maybe R&B way). Possibly that is what you are hearing as country?

Though, regardless of the remix, I don't know how much I'd recognize merengue if I heard it. I always assumed that lots of the fast dance music I heard in Dominican-run bodegas in Queens and lower Park Slope was merengue, but I could've been totally wrong about that. That Chino Y Nacho track didn't even strike me as especially fast, if that matters.

Scrolling back, I also see totally eye-to-eye with Jon Oh here:

I've never been all that big on Reba outside of a handful of isolated singles (see also: Strait, George).

And in fact made that same comparison here, in my review and comments:

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=694

Some merengue is extremely slow.

Gave Megafaun another chance (their upcoming album Heretofore -- have never heard any earlier stuff, which may or may not be different.) Reminds me of any number of drowsy, shambly, vaguely rootsy but mostly just plain vague eco-freak indie bands I've momentarily thought might be potentially interesting in the past decade or so but in the long run ultimately determined otherwise for all of them: Fruit Bats (circa Echolocation, the only album of theirs I ever even passingly cared about), Sixth Great Lake, I See Hawks In L.A., maybe My Morning Jacket.
Probably some art-folk period (= zzzzzz) Beck and Wilco in there, too.
Don't hate the record, has some pretty and mildly back-to-the-land evocative parts I guess, but there's not a single track (out of six, in 34 long minutes) that holds my attention all the way through. Also don't get Edd's "they'll try anything" claim -- Laura Bell Bundy's album, for one, seems way more stylistically varied; it's not even close. But then, I never really got what the big deal about Skip Spence's Oar, was, either, and though I still might have a copy of the first Moby Grape LP around here, only song I ever really cared about by them was "Fall On You." So yeah -- different strokes, for sure.

Yeah, I have a weakness for...what you call it, avant-folkiedom. Which doesn't always guarantee cohesion or even tunefulness, for sure. A group like Megafaun seems to me to be just self-consciously trying to do something different, I guess is what I mean...saxophones and Four Tet electronic stuff and some weird chords they learned messing around playing guitars. John Fahey and that kind of quietist folk stuff.

For what it's worth, and I'm sure I make this pretty obvious, I just think music like Laura Bell Bundy's isn't about music that much at all, whereas Megafaun are at least paying attention to some qualities you'd call musical, like the aforementioned playing around with...chords, harmonies and so forth. They're both pretty derivative. But I frankly can't understand how any real talent enters into something like "Giddy Up" at all--anybody with the technology and the right dancin' girl can come up with that stuff, plug in and go. I'm interested in musical expression more or less and I don't think the people behind Laura Bell Bundy care about that at all, it's just another hot babe (supposedly) doing her thing in a world made better by Robert Palmer videos. Show biz, and that's fine, I just don't care.

I was actually referring to the previous Megafaun album in my comments upthread; my editor just sent me their new one, which I haven't listened to yet. And, like Edd, I share his predilection for "avant-folkiedom." Not to turn the thread into some kind of support group or anything.

I find Edd's take on Laura Bell Bundy pretty fascinating. Again, I think it may be a matter of the severe disservice that the video for "Giddy On Up" does to both the single and to Bundy. Simply looking at the video, I can absolutely see how someone would come to the conclusion that there's no there there-- that it's just a matter of the right technology and the right girl and the right pair of chaps and the right So You Think You Can Dance cast-offs. The video is shrill and grotesque.

But the remainder of her album-- and Chuck may or may not agree on this-- shows a real point-of-view and sense of purpose that I don't get at all from, say, Kellie Pickler or Julianne Hough or Jewel or Jenette McCurdy or Jessie James. And, while I value paying attention to musical qualities, having an actual perspective and voice is something that I value, as well. And, while I understand why she's divisive (most traditionalists seem to want her head on a stake), I think Bundy has that kind of a voice. I'll link through to my review of her album if anyone's interested, but I think it's the most accomplished major label debut to come out of Nashville since Miranda Lambert's Kerosene.

I'd have to go back through major label Nashville debuts from the past few years to doublecheck (off the top of my head -- do Flynville Train on Show Dog count?), but yeah, that all sounds more or less right to me. Though I also don't remotely believe Bundy's album lacks "musical" qualities (which Edd seems to be defining weirdly selectively -- and not based so much, if I'm reading him right, on how records actually, you know, musically sound, but on how he perceives those records are made. For one thing, he seems to imply Bundy is just some passive actor with little input on her album's, uh, non-music, and I have no idea where he gets that idea from, especially since she gets a co-songwriting credit for 11 out of 12 songs, including "Giddy On Up" -- I mean, if "anybody with the technology and the right dancin' girl can come up with that stuff," then how come nobody else has? Also not sure why he thinks 29 = an old lady, but whatever.) I value those always fuzzy variables "talent" and "expression," too, but they're hardly the only things that go into making great records. (And after 25 years plus, of course, it won't surprise anyone that's what I think.)

In other news, the first song on the new (forthcoming) Randy Houser album may well have the heftiest drum wallop I've heard all year.

This discussion makes me wanna hear Megafun! (Hi, my name is Josh and I like John Fahey.) (And the new Four Tet sounds pretty good.)

But what I HAVE heard is the Bundy record, just today for the first time, and did I miss something? Is she controversial? Because she's a carpetbagger or something? I dunno, it was a take-it-or-leave-it for me, but I did admire some of the songs and the playing on it, not to mention her singing, which seemed very talented and expressive. The slow half was too slow for too long, and the fast half, while good, didn't do enough to redeem it. So, while I can imagine people liking it, I'm not sure how often I'd wanna subject myself to it. Will try again.

And if anything, Bundy's album seemed more "musical" than Lambert's albums, even if I enjoyed Lambert's first two more. Instruments are more clearly defined, there's more space and variety and nobody compressed the shit out of it. I caught a couple really nice guitar solos, and the band pulls off all the styles with expertise. So if I think it's only pretty good, it's because I was disappointed with the pacing and the songs. The singing and musicianship are probably its MOST impressive aspects. (Do like "Giddy On Up," song AND video.)

Nice review, Jon, though you like the album more than I. I would argue that she's not the only country person (or even woman, if it makes a difference) doing "frank sexuality"--Sara Evans is right there, and Lady Antebellum have their drunk dialing song, and I'm sure there are others I'm not coming up with. There was some article somewhere some months back (you're welcome) about how you can't listen to country radio with your kids anymore, or at least you have to come up with creative ways of explaining sexy lyrics to them. (I'll get back to you if I factcheck myself.)

Ah yes: http://www.radio-info.com/programming/country/booty-call-songs-on-the-rise-at-country-radio

RIP Hank Cochran (songwriter: "I Fall to Pieces," "Don't You Ever Get Tired of Hurting Me," much more besides)

ILX RIP country songwriter Hank Cochran thread.

Some excerpts of Hank's own tracks swirling around NPR very early this morning. Really nice high lonesome hilltonk neon atmosphere. Speaking of acid folk, I really like Couch Forts; they're kinda Rounders meet primo Woody Allen, re personal neurotic/erotic mythologically hand-painted snapshots.(They do not try to sing like Stampfel, or Allen.) Can stream or download beaucoup tunes here:
http://www.thesixtyone.com/couchforts.html

Oh yeah, the reason it says "Couch Forts" under some tracks and "Sufferbaby" under others: those are titles of EPs, which the downloads are from. If you can't be arsed to deal with thesixtyone and their free downloads, Couch Forts also got: http://www.myspace.com/iliveinacouchfort.html

Caramanica in the NYTimes on new albums I haven't hear by Jerrod Neimann (thought his single was okay, not great) and Lee Brice (who I have no opinion about at all.) He likes them both; says the Brice is probably the toughest country album of the year, which I'm extremely sketpical about, having heard Flynnville Train, Randy Houser, Jace Everett, and Colt Ford's albums. (Hell, maybe even Laura Bell Bundy's, for that matter. And Trace Adkins'.) But he makes me want to hear both of them anyway, just to make sure. (Even more skeptical about the non-country stuff he writes about. Thought the Gyptian reggae hit was boring, though nobody else at Singles Jukebox seemed to agree with me. Thought the Zola Jesus goth EP early this year was even more boring -- not nearly as diverting/listenable as the goth album by San Diego band Blessure Grave, who they seem to be associated with somehow -- and my wife, who likes goth way more than I do, agreed with me. Don't remember much about the middling Wacka Flocka Flame single reviewed on Jukebox.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/arts/music/18playlist.html

And speaking of "power country" (Caramanica's coinage -- I like it, wish I'd thought of it, and will surely steal it), here's George on Lady Antebellum's "Stars Tonite," which I agree is is a real good summer open-air concert radio rocker, even if I've listened to country radio so little this summer I haven't heard it on the radio yet myself. Can't see ranking it near "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" or "American Band" myself -- too soft in its center, somehow -- but the riff is indeed propulsive (mentioned it way upthread when I first heard the album), and the singalong's inspiring enough for me to finally push me over to the "gonna keep the CD" side, after liking two previous hits. Also makes me think that what I liked more about their debut album is that there was more rock on it, if probably not anything this rocking.

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

"Stars Tonight," actually -- not "Tonite." (And "by soft in its center," I guess I partly means its vocals, which aren't as manly as Grand Funk's or BTO's, obviously. But it also doesn't swing as hard as they did. Still, compared to other "rock" on the charts now, it rules.)

Yeah, Lady A -- with the girl singer, can't have any Don Brewer bellow aka "American Band." The lilts spoil it.

But GF and BTO had no Les Paul guitar chomps like that. No one did back then. The Mesa Boogie metal panel triple-recto whatsis marches on eating everything in its path.

http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Lifestyle/Features/john%2Drich%2D0719/

Note Rich getting in-line for his Gibson endorsement during the promotion for his new record.

Saw the video for it yesterday, thought he was setting himself up to be Kid Rock with better clothes and voice. It had all the usual 'rock' barnacles in it -- Ted Nugent, Sebastian Bach, some midget you see all the time. Nugent, who features reporters seem not to notice will do anything for a paycheck these days, pretneds to be at a bar having a shot. For Mr. Rage about the Virtue of Teetotalism ...

Nugent has a love-hate thing going with modern country. He would dearly love to have more of this audience. In fact, it was his audience in the late Seventies, in a harder form. But now he has the real bottom out-of-sighters, a much smaller cut. And it doesn't help that he makes disparaging remarks about country when he thinks his John Rich/Toby Keith buddies aren't in earshot.

So he plays a little guitar on Rich's single, too. Don't know if he actually played it on record. It doesn't sound like a Nugent lick but he actually did rein himself in for Damn Yankees. And Ted keeps putting on weight.

And here's my Nugent research:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/category/ted-nugent/

Since John Rich did the Massey Coal gig with Nugent as MC last year, one could come to the conclusion they're of real similar politics. However, the Nuge is now real bitter over Detroit -- and not in a good way --
which would seem to be in stark contrast to the sentiment in Rich's last big tune.

Oh man, Nugent was scheduled to be on the cover of a big fat UK glossy, Classic Rock...Where the Legends Never Die. There was a change in plans, which the Editor's Note explained thusly: While the photographer was setting up, "Sweet Home Alabama" came on the radio, and Nugent started yelling something very like: "Turn that dead redneck shit OFF!" And got even iller before anybody could react. Speaking of power country, I too wish I'd thought of it, though I almost did, when writing this show preview:

A certain power ballad sure feels like a sultry country night, as the lady recalls summer love--until she suddenly taunts her old sweetheart, who shouldn't feel too bad. She also loves doing that to stalkers, voyeurs, and other favorite audience members. On Halestorm's self-titled debut album, Lzzy (Hale yeah, "Lzzy")Hale's brand of metal shares 70s/80s rock-based connections with restlessly nostalgic modern pop country. She's a leather working girl, whose extreme measures sometimes have to battle her own Heart-shaped heart, and that's country too. But no twangy strings nor singers need apply.

Reg Mex side note:

Jesse Turner of Siggno (who I'm not familiar with) lists his Top 10 Albums, sort of, including Intocable, Ramon Ayala (who originated most of the songs on Intocable's latest album), and Brad Paisley, among others.

On Paisley: "I don’t have a favorite album, but what gets my mind going about any of his music is that he performs his own songs with so much life. His songs tell different stories every single time. I am amazed at his ability to to write a song about picking between his woman or fishing. Songs like 'Little Moments Like That,' 'Cause He Didn’t Have To Be,' 'I’m still A Guy'… This guy challenges me to do the same and write songs that don’t always have to be about the same thing. I believe that now you can write about a song about a rock that doesn’t move...His albums, lyrics, songs, shows, are all motivating to my music career."

For further research, at least for me.
http://www.ramiroburr.com/true/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=711:jesse-turnersiggno-top-10-albums&catid=3:newsflash

BAD in the Paul Fussell sense: Songs rendered unlistenable under any circumstance by astonishingly unwatchable video.

Colt Ford making a joke of his frankly hard to stomach obesity and the Twilight movies for the intro of "Chicken & Biscuits."

Billy Currington making a nauseating and homely slob the centerpiece of his "Good at Drinkin' Beer." Way too
successful.

Couldn't make it past thirty seconds of music on either of these, because of. And I like to drink beer, too.

They've both done much better, anyway. "Chicken & Biscuits" is one of the least notable tracks on Colt Ford's album of the same name. And here's what Singles Jukebox people just said about that Currington song:

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2547

Also, LeAnn Rimes's "Swingin'":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2538

And Keith Urban's "I'm In":

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2528

So what has Nugent actually said about modern country? Just curious; haven't come across anything along those lines. He sure does look (and, solo-wise, sound) pathetic in that John Rich video, though. Only thing I'm liking about the song is that the riff's got some ZZ in it.

Austin Statesman piece this morning about Kevin Fowler. Was not aware that he'd been a guitarist in 'twixt-hair-and-grunge metal band Dangerous Toys in the early '90s; never thought they were worth much anyway, but still. Piece also maps out a brief history of Texas frat country that I'd previously only vaguely figured out on my own: "latest in the line of Texas collegiate country crowd-pleasers that can be traced back to Jerry Jeff Walker, then Robert Earl Keen and Pat Green."

http://www.statesman.com/life/kevin-fowler-hitting-stride-and-the-charts-811538.html?cxtype=ynews_rss

So what has Nugent actually said about modern country? Just curious; haven't come across anything along those lines. He sure does look (and, solo-wise, sound) pathetic in that John Rich video, though. Only thing I'm liking about the song is that the riff's got some ZZ in it.

He made some typically Nugent comment about country licks being pathetic, something you'd never hear coming out of his guitar. It might have been in early spring and I didn't save it at the time. Next time I go into Lex-Nex I might look for it.

Paradoxically, the Nuge does this instro called "Honky Tonk" with his old guitar teacher on the 6,000th show Motor City Mayhem thing from 2008 and it's fairly pathetic all by itself. He's commented in the pas that some of his good tunes are written around honky tonk licks, and that's true, but he sure can't play them without sounding hackneyed if he lays off the power and distortion. Which also reminds me of how he spends ten minutes of the concert "celebrating" his blues guitar heroes by doing the worst bar band blues number he can muster. And don't even ask about his imitation of Mitch Ryder. Which isn't to say the concert doesn't have its good parts, of which I'll comment elsewhere, but as a roots musician he surely stinks.

Maybe he didn't actually play the guitar on the Rich thing. You'd have to look on the album. What's the point in calling on Ted Nugent if he doesn't ... like ... do a Ted Nugent lick? Also note Sebastian Bach in that thing, he also of the expanding middle third. And like Nuge, now or still a Doc McGee managed act. Is Rich now handled by McGee?

But with someone like Dan Huff as a producer, Ted could make an momentarily entertaining if maybe not quite decent modern country album. It would have to sell as a novelty -- think Uncle Kracker -- unless he found a singer. If Jason Aldean or Nickelback can pass off those beats on CMT, anyone can do it I think.

Didn't much care for "Swingin'" and haven't yet heard the Urban thing.

And my take on John Rich so far is that he's now overcompensating. Re wanting to do this:

...now on a year or two long solo act kick, apparently so as not to have the psychedelic hippy, Big Kenny, always at his stage right.

Completely off base?

Now he wants to be a thin man's half-Montgomery Gentry?

"So what has Nugent actually said..." See my post dammit! If he has a hissy fit over "Sweet Home Alabama", gives an idee of his take on *Country*!

Two real good '80s pop-country songs, if anybody cares: "Radio Heart" and "If This Is Love," off Charly McClain's 1985 LP Radio Heart (#15 on Billboard country LP chart), which Metal Mike sent me a few weeks ago. He's sharpied on the back, next to "If This Is Love," the following: "Taylor Swift/Def Leppard chords (key of A)". Not sure if I hear that, exactly (lyrics are definitely more pro forma than Taylor's), but judging from this album (third best song: the understandably airier "Talking To The Moon" I think) and her '82 Greatest Hits (favorites probably "Sleeping With The Radio On" -- went #4, and apparently she liked radio songs --, "Men," and "Who's Cheatin' Who" -- covered lamely by Alan Jackson a few years back), I could see McClain intermittently qualifying as some kind of tentative proto-Shania, in her more pop moments anyway. Definitely a '60s AM/early '80s girl-groupy new wave/maybe Motown influence on some of these hooks; her husband Wayne Hussey (three so-so duets on Radio Heart) seemingly shows some adult contemporary r&b influence in his singing inflections. She's a real cutie, too, which also puts her in Shania's lineage. And hmmm, just noticed in Whitburn she covered (and had a #24 c&w hit with) Freda Payne's impotent-groom-on-wedding-night classic "Band Of Gold" in '84; hope Wayne (who married her that year!) didn't take it personally. Whitburn also says she'd toured with black country singer O.B. McClinton, which might somewhat explain the possible soul influence, and appeared on Chips, Hart To Hart, and Solid Gold. Never had a single or LP cross over to the pop chart, though, which is a shame because that clearly seems to have been the intention, and "Radio Heart," for one, sounds like it easily could've been an '80s pop hit.

Speaking of old sellout country, wrote up some longwinded thoughts on Bill Anderson's 1979 Ladies Choice -- probably the most country-disco album I've ever heard -- here a couple days ago:

(vintage) country-disco

Jerrod Neimann album is super entertaining, btw. Lee Brice is mostly boring me so far; need to listen to it more. Though there do seem to be some reasonably tough moments -- e.g., opening "Picture Of Me."

Hoping I didn't scare Edd away with my Laura Bell Bundy defense above. (Fwiw, Edd actually describes how music sounds, and how those sounds work, as clearly and wisely as any writer I can think of. So I want to make it clear that how I interpreted his response to the Bundy record doesn't strike me as typical. Also, just like George with Currington and Colt Ford, there's nothing wrong with deciding not to delve further into an artist because you hate the video. Sure I've done it myself, many times.)

Anyway. Just got back from a "brisk" (actually I don't go very fast but whatever) morning bike ride, let myself accidentally get lost in a couple Austin neighborhoods I'd never been in before and then figure out my way back out in a different direction, fun to do on Sunday mornings when there's not so much car traffic to dodge, and then what do I see parked in front of a house on a street called Villanova Drive but Dale Watson's big fancy tour bus. That sure never happened to me in New York City.

Also worth noting: A couple days I ago I played back-to-back recently acquired (total cost for both put together: $0.50) copies of (sometimes covered by Barbara Mandrell) soul singer Barbara Mason's 1972 Give Me Your Love and country singer Joe Stampley's 1976 (though seemingly from the notes recorded/maybe previously released a couple years earlier) All These Things, and by a complete unbeknownst to me coincidence, both of them turned out to feature covers of "Everything I Own" by Bread. Wow, must have been a really popular song. Haven't decided yet whose version is better. (The Stampley also contains covers of the Box Tops' "Cry Like A Baby," the Four Tops' "I Can't Help Myself," and everybody's "Unchained Melody." Intereseting selection for a country guy. Apparently he had been in a "roots rock" band in the '60s called the Uniques; never heard them, but I've always imagined they were sort of Swingin' Medallions type Southern frat soul guys. Or, yeah, Box Topsish.)

Um, with Currington it's not a permanent deal-breaker. Colt Ford -- he gets the death penalty. The
mental image is too horrid, sweaty and gelatinous now, a pic of someone who eats lard from a can. And I'm usually not put off by unfortunate looks.

"sure can't play them without sounding hackneyed if he lays off the power and distortion" Only good with power and distortion = cornerstone of much rock we both love, I was gonna remind you, but your main point is that it was stupid of him *to* lay off, and thus he exposed his weakness in this area, rat? Must admit, re my previous unqualified endorsement of Chuck Prophet, I've now heard his most recent studio album, Let Freedom Ring, and discovered how sub-sub-sub-Dylan-y/Petty-y he can be, but about half of it's good-to-damn-good, esp when he's not trying to literally sound like Dylan, and assimilates Dylan's interplay of personal and political, as 60s electric stuff and sometimes more recently. Also Dylan-wise, got the lines that zing, in and out of context: "She was unwanted in 17 states", awww!

I was gonna remind you, but your main point is that it was stupid of him *to* lay off, and thus he exposed his weakness in this area, rat?

Yeah, he was trying to do sincerity and be tasteful at the same time. He's terrible at both. His guitar teacher, who played with him onstage, did tasteful. Tasty = worthless on the big stage.

So can any historians in the house (Don? Edd??) explain to me why Greil Marcus calls Jesse Winchester "rockabilly" in the appendix in the back of Stranded? Just listened to 1989 Rhino/Bearsville best-of (14 songs, 1971-1981) again; I try ever few years to see if I'll suddenly understand what the big deal about the guy was. No luck, again, but the main thing is, damned if I can hear any "rockabilly" on the record. Definitely some stuff that borders on a white-folkie trying Negro spirituals (the opener "Tell Me Why You Like Roosevelt," which has subsequent verses about "Lester B" -- who??? not Bangs obviously -- and Pierre Trudeau, would fit into that category), but mostly I'm hearing gloomy folk, a lot closer to Gordon Lightfoot, who had much better songs not to mention was a real Canadian not just a sad Memphis kid dodging the draft there. (Melody that maybe reminds me the most of Lightfoot, "A Showman's Life" from 1978, might be my favorite.) So, is the rockabilly thing just because Jesse's from Memphis, and does songs about it, not to mention Mississippi and Biloxi? Or does it have something to do with being produced at first by Robbie Robertson and collaborating with Levon Helm? (Not that the mostly bland Band ever sounded rockabilly to me, either, but I can imagine maybe Greil making a case in Mystery Train that they were.) Or (best possibility maybe) is it just that the '70 debut LP (the one Greil includes -- gets a Winchester career-high A- from Xgau too) actually was rockabilly, on songs that didn't make the best-of? Inquiring minds want to know.

(And while we're at it, why did Christgau useta call James Talley "Western Swing"? He wasn't, either.)

Fwiw, the Best-Of I have does actually include four songs from Winchester's debut ("Yankee Lady," "Biloxi," "The Brand New Tennessee Waltz," "Skip Rope Song"), but the LP cover lists them as 1971, not 1970 (the date both Marcus and Christgau use.)

And the Talley album that Christgau calls Western Swing -- Got No Bread, No Milk, No Money, But We Sure Got A Lot Of Love from 1975 -- is the one I have, and I'm pretty sure the only one I've heard.

Lester B is probably Lester B Pearson (Canadian prime minister pre-Trudeau).

No why Jesse W. might ever be described as rockabilly. His self-titled debut is by far his best that I've heard, though some good tracks on later albums, here and there. Even at his best, always a cell away from being too fey, or really self-pity (and/or depression?)is the basci complex, which can certainly be true of those considered much more macho. Or maybe the really really basic prob is limit of his talent and/or musical conception, since o course some others, from Hank Williams on down, can make the artistic and/or entertaining most of self-pity. But yeah, if somebody wants something very refined and reflective and chamber Americana (like I was hoping he'd get with John Cale, re JC's own early 70s Vintage Violence), then the self-titled debut is certainly worth checking out (also rec to fans of Nick Drake and John Martyn)Never heard the Best Of.

Anybody else read the Brad Paisley piece in this week's New Yorker? It takes several thousand words to say more or less the same thing I said in 200 in the Cleveland Scene, but it's moderately entertaining.

As far as the Band being bland, their self-titled second album and Moondog Matinee, which is based on their pre-fame roadhouse sets, are prob the most jumping complete sets on their own. Also good funky tracks without Dylan included on The Basement Tapes (one of which even seems like a prophecy of early Steely Dan, though it's a Dylan cover: the one about "stranglin' on this telephone wire). Also, in mellower (if also Xgau's "sprung")sprung modes: Big Pink, and some good cover-bait on Stage Fright, Northern Lights-Southern Cross,good rehash with horns (plus good new cover of Marvin Gaye's "Baby Don't Do It") on Rock of Ages.
But maybe they were more consistent as a backing band.Hot stuff on Ronnie Hawkins' Arkansas Rockpile, and the spottier Mojo Man, both reissued as a twofer in 09 or 08, anyway I posted a pretty good description on whichever year's Rolling Country. Also as backing band on The Last Waltz (plus some of their own, like Garth's roller-rink title song, as the credits roll). And of course as D.'s backing band on Basement Tapes, Planet Waves, Before The Flood.

Haven't read either, but 200 words seems the more apt allocation for Paisley appreciation.

Was off in Connecticut where the only Internet access I had was sound-free. Also been spending time thinking about my old "PBS" rants from the first few WMSs ('87-'88), my notions never having been that thought-through in the first place, so I'm seeing if I can rethink them. One of my thirty or so arguments at the time was that what was going wrong in the '80s was that the "symbol was standing in for the event," so the music (esp. indie-alternative) would play the symbols of risk and innovation without being risky and innovative, would be intellectual without being intelligent, would symbolize rebellion without being rebellious, etc. Even though the argument was often correct, it didn't explain what it was meant to, which is why the music was bad - not to mention explaining how (or even taking into account that) the music could feel good to others. Edd, in his argument about Laura Bell Gundy not being "musical," seems to be making the same mistake that I was. If the people, e.g. me, who like "Giddy On Up" aren't responding to the music - which includes words and presentation etc., but can't get by simply on those things - just what are we responding to? It's not an argument or an idea to say that the song isn't music, it's just a placeholder in wait of an argument that Edd hasn't made yet. (Not that the fact that we respond to it makes the song good, necessarily, just that our response means that the song has something in it that we respond to viscerally.)

Btw, I never even bothered to look at the Gundy vid until the Jukebox convo, and when I did I thought the visuals were not much better or worse than cute but I can't imagine they made much of a difference one way or another to the song's reception (except to Edd, I guess).

(But I extremely doubt that you scared Edd off, Xhuxk. He doesn't seem the sort to scare easily, though he does disappear a lot to take care of other stuff.)