Live In Japan quality is v. good
― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Friday, 9 July 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
meditations is basically the best record ever made by humans on earth
― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link
that said, the vastly underrated "stellar regions" is probably my favorite in the realm of ~coltrane records~ vs. whatever pantheonical land meditations inhabits
― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link
was checking out a new collected Coltrane interviews thing in the bookstore this week. amazing how chill the guy was, considering some of the music he made. seems almost ridiculously down to earth.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I like "First Meditations" a lot
― tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Recent favorites are Ole:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hN5JpIG0B0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsIOgLp5rlU
and Alabama (this is live version but you get the point):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_TDoOPnIA
― matt2, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anyone have the Prestige Box Sets - Fearless Leader, Interplay or Side Steps? Worth picking up?
― Jim, Sunday, 7 November 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i have 'em. some great stuff, also some very so-so, under-rehearsed blowing session-type stuff. I'd say Fearless Leader is the best of the lot.
― tylerw, Sunday, 7 November 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I have all three, too. I agree that Fearless Leader is the best one, but each has plenty to recommend it. I find myself listening to '50s Coltrane more often than '60s Coltrane these days; sometimes you just want to hear a dude with incredible talent playing melodic, easily-understood and -enjoyed music rather than listening to that same incredibly talented dude Brillo-ing his soul in front of you.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 7 November 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, true. one essential thing that's included on Interplay is the Kenny Burrell collab album. Great from start to finish.
― tylerw, Sunday, 7 November 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Love the Coltrane/Burrell record. Otherwise I agree his Prestige work was inconsistent but has some great moments. A couple of tracks that come to mind are Good Bait and Goldsboro Express.
― Kinect: The Body Is Good Business™ (Hurting 2), Sunday, 7 November 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow. How did I never hear Olé before? It's brilliant.
― Veðrafjǫrðr heimamaður (ecuador_with_a_c), Sunday, 7 November 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
All the Atlantic stuff is top notch. Used to own the Complete Prestige set but sold it because it was never getting played. It wasn't bad, just nothing compared to the Atlantic and Impulse stuff.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 November 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I know, right?
― Lostandfound, Monday, 8 November 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes.yes, it is.
― sonofstan, Sunday, 14 November 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Kind of ashamed I never got around to some of the later material until recently. Sun Ship and Interstellar Space are so incredible.
― The Corner Stander, The Suggest Ban Hammer (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
eh, no reason to be ashamed. i'm holding off on the later stuff, just because i'm scared of not having any more coltrane albums to discover!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Giant Steps still rules and is a permanent feature on my mp3 player. Need to get my hands on Olé and the Kenny Burrell collab. What's so great about the latter?
― sam500, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link
latter is great just to hear coltrane in a different context -- pretty much the only time he really played with a guitarist, i think? some of it is straightforward late 50s hard bop, but really good straightforward late 50s hard bop. highlight is the coltrane/burrell duet on "why was i born" which is insanely pretty.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I listened to Bags & Trane for the first time tonight.... what an unrelenting set of performances. It's like they are trying to top each other with every new solo.
have never really given the ascension and later period a chance but it's on the list.
― skip, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember always hearing about how Tyner and Jones didn't like the direction Coltrane was going in toward the end, and there's all this tension in the late quartet recordings that I think actually makes for amazing music. I wonder if there's something to that -- Money Jungle has a similar sense of tension and struggle. I also remember hearing about how Keith Jarrett hated playing the Rhodes in the beginning, and he sounds so great on it on Miles records.
― The Corner Stander, The Suggest Ban Hammer (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link
latter is great just to hear coltrane in a different context -- pretty much the only time he really played with a guitarist, i think? ― tylerw
excellent will have to check. totally into my jazz guitarists at the mo, particularly sonny sharrock on the herbie mann album and john mclaughlin on the jack johnson sessions.
― sam500, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
(not that i'm comparing kenny b. to the guitarists above of course)
― sam500, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, yeah, was gonna say -- don't expect that kind of stuff from the burrell/coltrane record!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone kinda touched on this upthread, but I"m curious...listening to Live At Birdland this afternoon and during Alabama, I swear I'm hearing a human voice muttering faintly in the background. Right around the 2 minute mark and goes on for like 30 seconds.
Is that Elvin Jones or McCoy Tyner giving instructions or something? Any jazzheads able to offer some insight?
― xtianDC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
...and now I'm hearing that same "sound" all over Your Lady. What am I hearing?!
― xtianDC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
crowd noise? or, elvin does grunt and vocalize a lot to himself when he's playing. i don't remember it coming through on that record, but haven't listened to it in a long time.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
It sounds too consistent to be crowd noise. Also, these are the two studio tracks on the album. So I'm gonna pretend like it's Elvin for now. At least until I can put some headphones on and really listen.
These two songs, btw...is there anything better?!
― xtianDC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I bizarrely worded Googs search sent me to this:Jazz pianists who make weird humming noises during their improvisations
haha...
― xtianDC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
you can hear him doing it pretty clearly during the drum solo near the end of this (killer) duet w/richard davis, like around 7:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uMk0aKMpqQ
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
That's definitely similar to what I"m hearing on Alabama and Your Lady. Cool.
― xtianDC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I always assumed that was Jimmy Garrison; you can hear him singing along with some of his solos.
― Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Been meaning to check out the Elvin/Richard Davis collabo forever, thanks.
― What You Know Is POLLS!: The Orson Welles Poll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
(Also will rep for this Richard Davis album http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IyDZgXq8QH0/SzZFIOoRtfI/AAAAAAAADoc/vpwNkSUGRVc/s400/Richard+Davis+-+Nowalthough I don't think Jordan likes the drummer too much)
― What You Know Is POLLS!: The Orson Welles Poll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Need to read the other thread again, but the thing about the humming is, always wonder how loud does the source have to be and where does the microphone have to be placed and what pattern does it have to have for it to be so audible to the listener? Although maybe I already said that on other thread three years ago.
― What You Know Is POLLS!: The Orson Welles Poll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
although I don't think Jordan likes the drummer too much)
really, did i say something against freddie waits at some point? honestly not too familiar with his playing, i only know it from this crazy live freddie hubbard record. nasheet is great though.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
So... Ascension Edition I or II..?
― mikethegrouch, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Let's Save John Coltrane's Househttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/opinion/sunday/03sun4.html?_r=2
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Would Ravi Coltrane be worth seeing? He's coming to Toronto soon. I don't know any of his music, but the thought of seeing Coltrane's son is inherently powerful to me. (In a way that Julian Lennon and Jakob Dylan never were.) I didn't even know he had a son who was out there playing music.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
I saw him a few years back and he was pretty good. He closed the show with a Giant Steps that he dedicated to his mother who had just died recently. And it was definitely powerful in a way.
― wmlynch, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely go. Who is he playing with?
― POLL Removal Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
Christine Jensen Quartet. It's very tempting--I didn't realize it was coming up so fast, though.
http://performance.rcmusic.ca/event/ravi-coltrane-quintet-and-christine-jensen-quartet-featuring-ingrid-jensen
― clemenza, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely go. Ingrid Jensen is great too. I've seen her with Darcy James Argue's Secret Society. Haven't seen or heard her sister though.
― POLL Removal Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
Today's his birthday; 24-hour birthday broadcast today on WKCR.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 23 September 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/370773643959
― Neil S, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
if i had $115,000 ... i'd probably do something else with it. but pretty cool!
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldn't pay more than 85k for an alto wtf
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 March 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link
Sun Ship: The Complete Session
!!!!!
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
great record...some of these alts showed up a little while back, but i'm sure this release will sound better: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1205
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
the Big O boot definitely makes me want to hear the complete sessions.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link