might have voted for other things (like roisin murphy) had i heard them prior to voting
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link
my votes:
93. NE-YO Year of the Gentleman (2008) [195.5 points, 10 votes]89. VITALIC OK Cowboy (2005) [200 points, 10 votes]76. ELLEN ALLIEN & APPARAT Orchestra of Bubbles (2006) [212 points, 12 votes]75. YOUNG JEEZY The Recession (2008) [214.5 points, 9 votes]72. AMY WINEHOUSE Back to Black (2006) [223 points, 9 votes]65. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS Alpinisms (2008) [234 points, 15 votes]57. LADY GAGA The Fame Monster (2009) [261.6 votes, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]51. PANTHA DU PRINCE This Bliss (2007) [280 points, 13 votes]46. ROISIN MURPHY Overpowered (2007) [288.5 points, 13 votes]44. BEYONCE B'Day (2007) [304.5 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]40. DJ QUIK & KURUPT Blaqkout (2009) [313 points, 17 votes]34. GANG GANG DANCE Saint Dymphna (2008) [333 points, 15 votes]31. T.I. King (2006) [352.5 points, 16 votes]30. BRITNEY SPEARS Blackout (2007) [363 points, 13 votes]28. KATE BUSH Aerial (2005) [368.5 points, 13 points]21. TAYLOR SWIFT Fearless (2009) [444 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link
the one i'm really hoping will turn up that i have no idea about is booka shade. it was pretty much a consensus techno album when it came out, but top 20 in this era might be pushing it a bit :/
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd have liked to have seen more dance on the poll, but not b/c I'm a dance partisan; more b/c I typically love the consensus dance albums but have no idea how to find out about excellent dance music on my own. The dance press reads like Greek to me because I don't know all their touchpoints & because I can't distinguish between trendy hyperbole & sober assessment. & I don't have the lifestyle to discover it through clubbing. So those are the recommendations I look for most on ILM poll threads.
― Euler, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Booka Shade are not going to turn up in the top 20, dudes.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost -- that is laughable. If there was any consensus techno album from 2005-9, it was Isolee's "Wearemonster" (which was only #66 on this poll). Not a single critic gave even a single vote to Booka Shade's "Movements" on P&J.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link
If Miranda doesn't make it, I'll be annoyed. Surely she will, though!
I think we're out of luck. "Kerosene" was my #1 pick on the singles poll & it didn't crack the top 100. ( Kerosene the album would have been my #1 here but it wasn't nominated.)
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link
My votes. Plenty more that I liked but didn't vote for.
85. BAT FOR LASHES Two Suns (2009) [205 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]72. AMY WINEHOUSE Back to Black (2006) [223 points, 9 votes]71. RACHEL STEVENS Come and Get It (2005) [223 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]67. TV ON THE RADIO Dear Science (2008) [233 points, 13 votes]64. ROBYN Robyn (2005) [234.5 points, 9 votes]56. YEAH YEAH YEAHS It's Blitz! (2009) [262 points, 14 votes]53. GIRLS ALOUD Chemistry (2005) [271 votes, 8 points]43. LCD SOUNDSYSTEM LCD Soundsystem (2005) [308.5 points, 17 votes]25. GHOSTFACE KILLAH Fishscale (2006) [420 points, 21 votes]
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd have probably voted Of Montreal's last two albums very highly, and The Drift would have made it to.
I don't know why, but I've completely slept on Saint Dymphna.
― village idiot (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread, also Clipse at 22, rules.
― Captain Ahab, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
still nothing in this list that pisses me off more than Hold Steady, the ultimate hipster runoff scarequotes band. heeeeey guys we're a 'bar band,' we're writing songs about 'the kids,' check out our 'riffs'!
― plax r (some dude), Monday, July 12, 2010 4:56 PM (6 hours ago)
this post is so out of character
― k3vin k., Monday, July 12, 2010 11:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it only seems that way because i have been pretty good about resisting the urge to troll Hold Steady threads, but seriously fuck that shitty band
― some dude, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
If there was any consensus techno album from 2005-9, it was Isolee's "Wearemonster"
From Here We Go Sublime, IMO.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
for ppl who like techno tho? or for ppl who like indie
― just sayin, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
dear savage love
i listened to hhnf again and i still like it
- trying to fit in in minneapolis
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I have a feeling my #1's not gonna show up
― goth (crüt), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
hhnf vitriol is weird to me--it is overrated and there are some forgettable tracks but 1-5 on it are killer for both beats and rapping. tbh wamp wamp might be my favorite beat ever so to hear ppl say it has no good beats seems like overstating the case imo.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:40 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah see "Wamp Wamp" just sounds like an ugly mess to me, there was a nice IDEA there but Pharrell and his love for sloppy unquantized drums made it really cluttered and awkward
― some dude, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Just ... in general, I guess? From Here We Go Sublime finished in the Pazz and Jop top 40 and had a Metacritic score of 90. Seems like I heard a lot more about it than about Wearemonster, though I do read Pitchfork more than Resident Advisor. (Oddly enough, I actually feel like the Isolee album would appeal to indie rockers more than the Field, esp. tracks like "Schrapnell.")
― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
the phrase "wamp wamp" sounds like dubstep onomatopoeia
― goth (crüt), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i think most people who actually listen to dance music beyond the stuff that crosses over like that would prefer isolee to the field
in fact i suspect most people overall would prefer isolee, he's got more to offer unless the field's specific approach is exactly what you're looking for in techno music
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
in fact i suspect most people overall would prefer isolee
Don't think this is true, what The Field has that appeals to non-dance fans is a very obvious devotion to prettiness without making you work too hard for it. The same is true of Four Tet to a lesser extent.
Resident Advisor's 00s albums poll put Booka Shade at #6, The Field at #29 and Isolee at #53, fwiw.
The real consensus dance album of the second half of the 00s hasn't appeared in this poll yet.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
that would be Untrue
― Dan S, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
it would be either West Coast or Where You Go I Go Too, probably the latter
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost re: untrue
yeah that might get a lot of ppl like me who don't ever follow dance...but dudes were making such a fuss about it i downloaded it and ended up liking it....
but i have zero frame of reference for whether it was really good or innovative compared to other stuff...i just ended up liking to listen to it
i'm pretty sure i voted for it
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
― Dan S, Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
I concur. My bets lay on Untrue placing at #10.
― Captain Ahab, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
if we narrow the definition of "dance album" to "album you can dance to" we're left with just booka shade, of these options
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean did any of these other "dance" albums being mentioned give us an "in white rooms" AND a "mandarine girl" AND a "body language"?
There is no consensus as to the real consensus dance album of the second half of the 00s, clearly.
I thought Gui Boratto - I thought EVERYONE loved that - or Booka Shade . But Burial is prob what Matt DC meant, although it doesn't feel like/function as dance music to me.
― Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I reckon Matt meant the Lindstrom album
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Sound of Silver would be the consensus "dance" album, if it's considered dance.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Matt's post just prompted me to read that RA best of 00s for the first time. No Lindstrom at all there, strangely.
― Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
lindstrøm is ilm-consensus, burial general crit-consensus
(booka shade were some intersection of ilm consensus, dance crit consensus and actual populist club crossover consensus; isolée was dance/"experimental electronic music" crit consensus only; the field were pfork indie consensus (a pejorative).)
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ would agree with all this, actually
pan-genre crit consensus pick would be "Untrue", no contest
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
alright, starting this up in a few mins
― hoos gossage (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i've said this before but i only enjoy the singles from HHNF -- not sure why that is tho
does "experimental electronic music" refer to the-genre-formerly-known-as-IDM
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lex you are a smart guy but you basically become like the glam version of alex in NYC when you talk about any kind of rock music.
You say that like it's a bad thing. :::sniff::::
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I think indie-approved dance is the successor to IDM, especially if we're talking about the likes of Four Tet and The Field
xpost
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, the album coming up is tied with the #1 placing album for the most number of #1 votes
― hoos gossage (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I assume my Alex Moulton pick isn't gonna place? :(
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
20. THE-DREAM Love/Hate (2007) [456.5 points, 17 votes, 4 first place votes]
http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/TheDreamLoveHateCover.jpg
― hoos gossage (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah i was hoping for alex moulton on here but i think it was in the bottom half of my ballot so i barely did my part
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah. there he is
― gman59, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
LOVE that its full title is love me all summer, hate me all winter
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
also lol @ none of the terius fan club on ilm realising that for like a year and then not getting it when brainwasher referred to its full title - shows how many of us owned the actual cd
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
yes it's too bad that they chopped this down
― hoos gossage (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
interesting that Love Vs. Money will apparently place higher, didn't really expect that (I prefer it, but voted for neither)
― some dude, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
this was actually the name of the album when press about it was just coming out, but then they shortened it -- i for one own all three CDs!
I'm going to give Love/Hate another go, see if I like it more in light of the new one.
Yeah the consensus album I was talking about was Untrue, although I like most of the dance albums mentioned above loads more. West Coast is not dance music in any sense of the word.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i think LVM has always grabbed a wider swath of ppl on ilm even tho there was always a really monolithic and loud contingent of L/H disciples on the board
― hoos gossage (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
the first terius song i heard was "ditch that...", in rich four four's end-of-year mix of 4x4 house beats in r&b and hip-hop at the end of 07. it was one of the few i didn't recognise, and for a few weeks i genuinely assumed he was an amazing new deep-voiced dyke rapper. i STILL think that if missy elliott had any balls left by then she'd have done "ditch that..." as a comeback single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HhwavyWyhM
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link