Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

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yeah really digging national breakout. THIS is pop with some power.

scott seward, Thursday, 22 July 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Key cuts: "Tomboy," "Stone Poney," "21 And Over."

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Ted tells DC and any Mexican reading his columns he's been attacked by a little old lady and some other people from Glenn Beck's official enemies list.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/07/23/nugent-copy-editor-works-overtime-but-it-doesnt-help/

Amateur video from Ted's summer tour of Indian gaming casinos and such:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/07/22/more-scenes-from-teds-summer-tour-of-assorted-firetraps-and-casinos/

Gorge, Friday, 23 July 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

So, speaking of late '60s Detroit rock (you know, like Ted Nugent, and the early '80s Romantics album that sounds like Mitch Ryder -- which is what I meant by "garage" fwiw -- and that album-of-the-year Bob Seger reissue CD-R), this new album by ex Rational guy Scott Morgan is really, really good. One of the best new hard rock albums I've heard this year, easy, and he's somebody I've never even listened to all that much before, though I liked this single he did in the late '80s called "16 With A Bullet" (reviewed it in the Voice at the time, also either interviewed him for Creem or just hung out with him once in Ann Arbor, I'm not sure which.) I think somebody was talking on another thread about some double Rationals reissue from a few years ago, but it sounded like too much of a just okay thing to me. Maybe I was wrong, though. Anyway, the guy's voice -- hard white soul, like Mitch Ryder -- holds up suprisingly well, 44 years after his only Hot 100 single. ("Respect," #92, 1966.) And while the new CD's soul covers are fine (Four Tops' "Something About You," Tempts' "Since I Lost My Baby," Sam Cooke via Animals' "Bring It On Home To Me"), what I'm really loving is the louder stuff -- "Summer Nights" and the Bobbie Gentry cover "Mississippi Delta," both with reams of early Stooges style wah-wah, plus the album-ending biker blues "Highway." Album's about equal parts soul rock, blues rock, and hard rock, I guess. "Memphis Time" (a sort of rollcall of Memphis soul heroes) is kinda corny, but I don't mind. Recorded/mixed/co-produced by Jim Diamond (who's worked with White Stripes, Dirtbombs, Gore Gore Girls, Electric Six, etc), but it doesn't sound indie; sounds like it could've come out in 1969 okay.

Morgan's Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/scottmorgandetroit

Btw, not hard rock at all, but I mentioned it here last week, so I might as well say that I wound up hating Larry Norman's prissy prancy foo-foo lame-brain Upon This Rock as much as I wound up loving his much tougher and catchier and smarter Only Visiting This Planet. Which just goes to prove I guess that Christian rockers can make both good records and bad ones, just like regular people.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 July 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Everything you wanted to know about how Slade got together but didn't know to ask:

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/black-country/black-country-news/2010/07/24/dave-hill-from-slade-talks-about-his-roots-97319-26919971/

Just a few years later, Dave would be climbing to the top of the Mander Centre for a heavily symbolic
photo shoot, next to an arrow sign pointing skywards, as he and fellow Black Country working-class
heroes Noddy Holder, Jim Lea and Don Powell celebrated their first number one in late 1971.

The characteristically mis-spelt Coz I Luv You would kick-start an amazing run of six number ones and a further seven top ten records in a wildly exciting four years, then following a dip in fortunes which saw
them play what Dave calls “the chicken-in-a-basket circuit”, a dramatic return to the top in
the eighties after a fortuitous late call to deputise for Ozzy Osbourne at the 1980 Reading Festival.

-----

Later in his teens Dave, by now obsessed with Chuck Berry, had a fresh beginning when he was
head-hunted by the manager of Bilston band the Vendors, which included similarly aged Don Powell,
an immaculate musical time-keeper who had learned to play the drums as a boy scout.

The Vendors evolved into the N’Betweens after Dave met Noddy Holder, disenchanted singer with
Steve Brett and the Mavericks, in the now long-defunct Milano Coffee Bar off Darlington Street in Wolverhampton.

Don had already run into Noddy while performing at St Giles’s Youth Centre in Willenhall and was
aware of his wallpaper-shredding vocal talents.

The group, with soon-to-depart vocalist Johnny Howells still in the ranks, also recruited
precocious Codsall Comprehensive student Jim Lea on bass after an astounding try-out at
the Lafayette club (now the Gala Casino) in Whitmore Street, in Wolverhampton town centre.

The new N’Betweens’ line-up had earned an estimable reputation by late 1968, having gigged regularly
in town at the Lafayette, at the Woolpack restaurant, the Ship And Rainbow, and on Monday nights
at the Civic Hall, as well as at Brum venues like the Tyburn House, building a solid fanbase as
they churned out a perplexingly wide-ranging repertoire of covers, from Marvin Gaye to the
Moody Blues, Frank Zappa to Ted Nugent. They had blistering power and real stage presence.

Had and have a Scott Morgan solo LP with Scott Asheton on drums and a girl singer. Was pretty much all over the place as xhuxk sez the new one is. Mostly, it had a Bruce/Mellencamp vibe.

Gorge, Sunday, 25 July 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Dug up Chris Youlden's two solo albums -- after he split from Savoy Brown in the early Seventies. Per skott's mention of Nowhere Road, which is rare.

Youlden had one of the great voices in the Brit white boy blues boom. Anyone who thought he couldn't do hard rock that worked in the US simply hasn't heard the live side of Savoy Brown's A Step Further or the other live boots made in the US from that line-up. That he didn't become one of the voices of hard rock is as much a tragedy as a study in resistance and poor choices.

Lonesome Dave Peverett, who was second fiddle in Savoy Brown, wound up arena famous as Lonesome Dave in Foghat in the USA. Youlden, on the other hand, did two albums that make him sound like a Brit Wilson Pickett. The first album is more soulful than anything Savoy Brown did, more intimate. It does not have anything on it that would have had a chance in the charts. The second album, City Boy, I can only get through about half of it.

'Course, Kim Simmonds had a knack for finding really great vocalists in the early Seventies. Not only did he have Lonesome Dave in the band, after -he- left along with the rest of the band to do Foghat, Simmonds hired Chicken Shack and Dave Walker. Walker made the highest charting Savoy Brown record, Street Corner Talking. And for a short period he was an -IT- guy in the UK, hired to replace Ozzy in Black Sabbath, did the vocals for Never Say Die, only to have them 86'd when Ozzie was called back in at the last minute. And he would up as the lead singer for Fleetwood Mac on the Penguin record.

Gorge, Monday, 26 July 2010 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

nowhere road is very enjoyable. it has a great vibe. smooth. a little funky. like, tastefully funky. if that makes sense. but it works. its not a record trying to be a big deal. it's mellow blues rock. which is a genre i appeciate! if such a genre exists. pothead blues, basically.

scott seward, Monday, 26 July 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Scott Morgan is great, he's been plugging away since the 60s. I have a CD-R w/tracks from all his bands from the Rationals to Sonic's Rendezvous to singer/songwriter stuff. sweet.

IIRC my friend who saw Savoy Brown back in the day said Chirs Youlden sat in a chair on stage while singing. love that guy's weird voice.

too rock for country/too country for rock & roll (m coleman), Monday, 26 July 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Yeah, I also very briefly used to have an earlier Scott Morgan CD from the late '80s or so, probably with "16 With A Bullet" on it, and it definitely struck me at the time as more Cougar/Bruce heartland stuff, less powerful, than the new one does. Decided at the time that it was too dull and stodgy to hang onto; conceivable I underrated it, I guess. Wish I'd kept the "16 With A Bullet" 45, at least. (New CD, fwiw, is self-titled; none of the tracks coincide with what's now on his MySpace.)

So, anybody have any opinion about early solo Sammy Hagar? Never thought to have an opinion before myself, just always hated "I Can't Drive 55" so much I figured the earlier stuff was just as wretched, but a copy of his 10-song '82 best-of Relapse was in that bottomless Metal Mike charity box, and it's better than I would've guessed. First three songs on Side Two -- "Trans Am (Highway Wonderland)," "Love Or Money," and the kind of hilariously quasi-evil "This Planet's On Fire (Burn In Hell)," all from '79-'80 -- come real close to the speed and density of that era's NWOBHM to my ears. Also like "I've Done Everything For You" (comparable to the Rick Springfield version), "Rock N Roll Weekend" (for the riff, which I swear sounds like Joy Division's "Interzone," which in Stairway I compared to Diamondhead's "Shoot Out The Lights," which I haven't heard since), and "Bad Reputation" (not the Joan Jett or Thin Lizzy songs but still really really hookful, about a working class girl in trouble iirc). Have never listened to any of Hagar's early solo LPs, but Popoff says the self-titled debut from '76 and Street Machine from '79 are the best ones. (He hated VOA, though.)

Even better in the Metal Mike box: self-titled '80 Epic debut by Speedway Blvd., who don't show up in Popoff, Jasper/Oliver, or the Rolling Stone Record Guide. Five guys -- three white, one black, one possibly somewhere in between, hard to tell from the cover photo. First side is good hard macho late '70s Foreigner/Bad Company AOR with cool keyboard parts, "Chinatown" maybe the highlight; second side gets more ornate, almost toward a bizarre ahead-of-their-time cross between late '80s Queensryche and late '80s Loverboy at some points, but less awful than that sounds. Almost new wavey (Hounds via Thomas Dolby?) "Telephoto Lens" and musclebound but complex rocker "(Call My Name) Rock Magic" my two favorites, overall. Did an admittedly perfunctory Google search a few days ago, and the most promiment mentions of the album I found were on a Dream Theater (!?) website; not sure if there's a personnel connection with them, or not. First and last songs on the LP are decent ones with "boulevard" in the title; very '80s word (see: Journey, Jackson Browne, Robbie Dupree), so maybe ahead-of-time there, too.

Speaking of new wavish keyboard hard rock (Speedway Blvd definitely have some Cars and maybe even Knack influence in there too), I also gave the first Fischer-Z album from 1979, Word Salad, a spin for the first time in a while yesterday, and it sounded good in the background all through but I can't say any songs totally killed me. Loud enough, but probably still a bit too un-rock'n'roll Brit-robotic in the rhythm section. Was surprised by how Jon Anderson-like the singer's high register sounds, and how much reggae they worked in (two or three songs I think -- Speedway Blvd had one, too.)

xhuxk, Monday, 26 July 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Sammy Hagar's Capitol recordings. They're all generally good, the s/t having the most durable songs from the period -- Red, Cruisin' and Boozin', Rock 'n' Roll Weekend, and his fascination with little corny sci-fi operas: Little Star/Eclipse. Also hear Crack in the World from Musical Chairs, also Turn Up the Music, Don't Stop Me Now and Reckless.

Gorge, Monday, 26 July 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually should've said that Popoff went for Nine On A Ten Scale, not the self-titled -- which is the Capitol one he likes least (3 out of 10). Also gives All Night Long (live, apparently?) a low grade, but says when he was younger it reminded him of Derringer Live, hmmm. As for that "Red" song, man, I don't know. I just don't get the guy's weird obsession with, like, redness. (Loverboy and the Romantics like that color just as much, but didn't feel the need to sing about it!)

xhuxk, Monday, 26 July 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Red clothes, red sports car, red guitars -- even the Capitol albums were mostly red. His box set from a couple years ago -- actually 2 CD best of -- came in red. He was the Red Rocker. Paradoxically, when he lightened up on the red and went to a different label, he had more success saleswise. I saw his tequila in the grocery store behind the lock-up. It was not red. And I never got the feeling he did much of the red thing when he was in Van Halen, looking just like one of the boys.

I guess at Capitol it was glommed onto as a potential sales thing, something that made him stand out as a brand.

Gorge, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Unrelated but a post as a consequence of work I started at the Voice. It took eight years for a bad publicity result I contributed to accumulate to the point that the plug was pulled on an exotic stupidly mean weapon called the Active Denial System (ADS) that was in Afghanistan.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/07/26/cult-of-emp-crazy-wonder-weapon-sacked-as-potential-publicity-disaster/

Gorge, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Back in Past Expiry land, Jasper and Oliver hilariously on-point in re King Of Hearts' Close, But No Guitar (Capitol, 1978 -- maybe the only '70s album that I own only as a "test pressing" btw): "Pretty-boy duo specializing in sub-funk close-harmony soul, until side two of their LP is played. Two of the most lethal doses of metallic majesty on this side leave the listener confused and drooling for more." Only quibbles: The two guys in the "band", singer Robert Fitoussi and guitarist Marc Tobaly, are not all that pretty, despite blow-dried curls; or at least Tobaly isn't -- dude's a bit of a chubster, with a major overbite and more than a few wrinkles, judging from the back cover photo. Also, I count three metal (in the funky post-Who '70s Detective/Derringer/Piper sense, or thereabouts) cuts on Side Two, not just two: "Ridin' On," "Fancy Dancer," and "Love For Hire." Bet they meant the first two of those, but the third'd fit fine on a Flame album, I'd think.

Also played Be Bop Deluxe's Axe Victim a couple times this week, and definitely do now agree with George that it's not one of their more impressive efforts, due in part to Bill Nelson's faux-Deluxe backing band. Most memorable parts, in fact, seem to be Bowied-out glam moves, most obviously in "Night Creatures," about lads who wear Max Factor and high heels and paint their faces white. Which, judging from the cover pictures, isn't far from what the band was doing at the time (= 1974).

xhuxk, Monday, 2 August 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, never cared for it much. The cover and image had potential but ...

Have never heard or seen the other record you mention.

High point guitar wrangling and hard rock wise re BeBop were Sunburst Finish, Live in the Air Age and Futurama. I always go with SF. Which really looks 'Ziggy and the Spiders' on its cover, too. "Crying to the Sky" has Bill Nelson's greatest guitar solo ever. Totally
lyric Hendrix inspiration.

Speaking of Ziggy, was listening to Bauhaus' cops on "Ziggy Stardust", "Telegram Sam," and Doctor & the Medics' cover of "Spirit In the Sky" today. A plus on the first, C minus on the second, go for the original on the third although it's not really bad at all.

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i could never get into axe victim. great cover though. i think me and be bop deluxe have agreed to disagree. i've tried, really i've tried.

scott seward, Monday, 2 August 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Foghat 2.0 is not Foghat. Lots of people on the fair circuit in the US still don't get this.

It's understandable. Foghat was not a band with an identifiable face. The identifiable voice, Lonesome Dave, has been long replaced by brand -- and the endless boogie.

Comedy results, like this bit of a weekend review from a Sacramento web pub:

Coincidently, or maybe not, it was at this point in the show that I got my first big whiff of bammer weed.

I had already come to the conclusion that the lead singer was clearly not an original member of the band. Foghat formed in London in 1971. It took about 15 seconds to ascertain that the lead singer was not British.

After "Stone Blue," Huhn introduced the band. It turns out their original drummer, Roger Earle, was recovering from minor back surgery, and the skins were being played by Mitch Ryder's drummer.


He then introduced the bassist, Craig MacGregor. He was decidedly not English.

Lastly, he introduced the guitarist, Bryan Bassett, formerly of Wild Cherry and Molly Hatchett.

On this night, at least, the British blues rock band from England consisted of two guys from Detroit, and two guys from Pennsylvania.

America, f*%k yeah.

http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/33974/Slow_Ride_Take_it_Easy

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i was excited to find the reddy teddy album from 1976 two days ago -its been on my want list- even though the copy wasn't that great. but for 2 bucks i couldn't complain. so today my friend bugsy came by to sell me stuff and he had a perfectly perfect copy. what great timing! love this album. boston's answer to the new york dolls. some hard rock, some punkiness, some glam stomping and it also sounds like they were listening to the kings in aerosmith a little too. plus, lots of humor. and willie alexander's help. "a child of the nuclear age" kills me! love "moron rock" too. which seems to be an anti-glam, anti-alice cooper, anti-punk song all in one. "but its all gonna stop, have to chuck it all up/it's just lollipops that you suck/the truth of the matter is your eardrums are shattered playing the moron rock!"

http://fredpopdom.free.fr/images/Reddy-Teddy/Reddy-Teddy-Front.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

CNN's Rick Sanchez -- a big time buffoon -- makes Ted Nugent his person of the day at the noon hour.

Why?

Here's Rick's words on his blog:

Rock and roll legend. Check. Gun lover. Big game hunter. Unapologetic ultra-conservative. Check, check and check.

He used a whole page of angry ink in a major Washington D.C. newspaper today to go off on the president, a nation of people he calls "sheep" and a country he calls a "shameless mess."

This is from his Washington Post op-ed:

"Welcome to the new fat, soft, cowardly nation of wimps with the perfectly corrupt president and pack of soulless hounds in government that they deserve."

Hey Ted...relax, baby! "Motor City Madman" is just a nickname!

Ted Nugent. He's never minced words, and he's damn sure not mincing them today. He's ticked off. He's opinionated. He's loud!

Hey, aren't those all symptoms of "Cat Scratch Fever"?

Only one thing wrong. Ted's column didn't appear in the Washington Post. It ran in the WaTimes, as usual, like it does twice weekly, over the weekend with a cartoon of Obama as Mao ZeDong, which Nugent mentions in every column. Along with three graf long run-on sentences in this one. Ted goes off on the President every week, along with everyone else in the country he despises. He repeats himself a lot, always uses the same insults and cut-and-paste Ted-o-isms.

Now for our friends across the pond, this is a really big "Oof!" The Washington Post is the newspaper of Woodward & Bernstein and lots of other famous journalists. The WaTimes is the newspaper of the Moonie guy and lots of right wing crazy people.

Now, if it had been in the WaPost, it would have been remarkable. And there's always the possibility the newspaper will do something completely irrational -- like support the Iraq War and torture.

But for now -- Ted's still stuck at the fringe place.

Gorge, Monday, 2 August 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's an interview I did with former Nugent drummer Tommy Clufetos, who's also played with Alice Cooper, Rob Zombie and now Ozzy Osbourne. Thought it might be of interest to thread denizens.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

moderators, we need a thread title change: The All Nuge Expiry 2010

scott seward, Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

re xhuxk's Sammy Hagar "red" observation, these made me laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIV9iUwwhqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2LVPwvxVaU&feature=related

Doesn't dress in red so much anymore. Although for the 2010 arena gig looks like he had the cheering
section behind him all kitted out in red. Does jumping jacks onstage, plays the I've Done Everything for You" Springfield joke for obvious laughs with a decent punchline. Wait for the older mom-type signing the lyrics for the deaf at the side of the stage, after he gets into the song.

Amiable.

Gorge, Friday, 6 August 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually liked his single "Mas Tequila" when it came out in 1999. Wish I had an actual 45 of it (assuming one exists.) Reviewed it in the Voice, along with Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar":

http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-05-11/music/double-shot/

Elsewise, here's what's black-sharpied on the front cover of Fiona's 1989 Heart Like A Gun album, an apparent booby prize included in the box o' vinyl Metal Mike sent me (all caps, of course, but I'll make this easier on the eyes): "I suck ass but my BF produced Ratt and mis-produced Warrant and Ratt and and my BF didn't want to let Warrant record 'Heaven'! I'm glad he had a giant dick, because he's a fuckin' idiot." Tattooed on Fiona's arm: "Beau Hill is a fag." Back cover: "Susie Hatton (sic) w/ Bret Michaels made (marginally) better albums than this GF/BF Fiona/Beau Hill crap!"

Album's indeed pretty awful. Sort of like bad '80s Heart, but more fake-metal souped-up and bloated, and without the hooks. Metal Mike has marked "Bringing In The Beast" (which has soul horns, fwiw) on the cover with a red X, and "Look At Me Now" with a red XX, but I don't know if that means he thinks they were better or worse than the other songs. I'd pick the opener, "Little Jeanie (Got The Look Of Love)" (apparently an emphasis track since it's named on the cover sticker) as the most bearable song, powerless ballad "Victoria Cross" as the most horrible probably. Kip Winger duet "Everything You Do (You're Sexing Me)" got to #52 on the pop chart, apparently; sounds vaguely familiar, I guess. "Where The Cowboys Go" is neglible, but still gets added to the long list of hair-metal cowboy songs that, two decades early, anticipated how hair metal would evolve into contemporary country, or vice versa.

xhuxk, Friday, 6 August 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Hah, having been raised in Phillipsburg, NJ, Fiona had a connection to the Lehigh Valley so the features section had to do charity case publicity on her by default. She played the serial killer in the "Little Miss Dangerous" episode of Miami Vice.

Gorge, Friday, 6 August 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

The weekend's dose of Nugent. Scroll past the entry to see the stuff about him popping one off in Dubuque.

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/category/ted-nugent/

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

What the hell could Nugent possibly be thinking.

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Just got a reissue of a barely-issued album from 1973 or so, Let Me In by a Youngstown, OH-based power trio, Poobah. It's good stuff, musically anyway; the guitarist is excellent, and the rhythm section is solid. The lyrics (which are unfortunately reprinted in the booklet) are brain-crushingly awful, though - they make Mark Farner sound like Bob Dylan. Still, very good stuff. The original six-track album is padded out with twelve demos, recorded in various living rooms on two-track.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 9 August 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't heard that one, but Steamroller, the Poobah album (from 1979 apparently) reissued on great but short-lived Monster Records a few years back, was awesome. Who's reviving the '73 one??

xhuxk, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Liner notes say they had six albums! Monster also reissued one from 1976, called U.S. Rock, according to the inner sleeve booklet.

xhuxk, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Courtesy of the collectors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bje4ErgDKnc&feature=related

They have a song called "Highway Gestapo"!

Gorge, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

The debut is being released by Ripple Music - www.ripple-music.com.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 9 August 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Howler of the day, from Ted Nugent, naturally:

from my impulse to create/unleash the songs to my incredible band and the entire production team – is all about our united celebration of raw, instinctual primal-scream all-American R&B&R&R soul music ...

Soul music.

It's called overcompensating.

Gorge, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

poobah were cool. they've been on the thud headz hall of fame for years. records are hard to find. to say the least.

scott seward, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

bar bands of the 1970s: a picture thread

xhuxk wanted to know what DEK looked like in Allentown in the late Seventies. Major props to the bar band promo photo thread.

Gorge, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Without them, no Poison, no Cinderella, no Britny Fox, no anyone quite the same from the tri-state area. Kix included.

Gorge, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

A reader left this on my blog, from an Alice Cooper performance on French TV in '81. It's from the Special Forces LP and Mike Pinera from Iron Butterfly was his guitarist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkPcxcCknXc&feature=related

I had to laugh.

Gorge, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Two passable, intermittently hard-rock-leaning major label '80s LPs I never heard of before, from Metal Mike's charity box:

Echo Park soundtrack, A&M 1986 -- Good hard-rock/bar-band/garage cuts by Jimmie Woods & the Immortals (a cover of Doug Sahm's Ray Charles "What'd I Say" update "She's About A Mover" and a sort of rock rap frat party banger called "The Immortal Strut"), Dean Chamberlain ("The Need"), and the Sights (kind of Clashy "Twice As Hard" -- not the same wimpy Sights who arose out of Detroit's White Stripes garage scene a couple decades later I gather.) None of which acts I know anything about; maybe they were just created for the movie for all I know. Only act on the whole album I've ever heard of before is David Baerwald, of David & David kinda fame. Tracks by Johnette and Mike Sherwood/Julie Christenson are fair-to-middling Ellen Foley/Shipley/Concrete Blonde-style big voiced gurl power ballads. Future Lillith type Toni Childs gets a "special thanks," but doesn't appear to be on the record. Never heard of the movie before either; Wiki calls it "a 1986 comedy-drama film, set in the Echo Park neighborhood of Los Angeles, California. The plot follows several aspiring actors, musicians and models." Apparently Cheech Marin, Susan Dey, and Elvira (playing a secretary) were in it.

Straight Lines, self-titled, Epic 1980: Vancover band, apparently, judging from where they recorded and where their management was based, which would mean they could be from the same scene as Streetheart, Loverboy, Sweeney Todd, etc., assuming such a "scene" actually existed. Good catchy keyboard-based AOR, turning toward Foreigner/late '70s Bad Co hard rock in the side openers "Heads Are Gonna Roll" and "Roanne" and especially Side One closing prostitute ode "Midnight Woman," which opens with a real brutal metal riff which comes back intermittently amidst R.E.O.-type harmony. Closer "The Things You Do" is nice Shooting Star pomp with a good guitar climax; "Sweet Water" goes into a cool Dixieland jazz part (keyboard guy doubles on sax); "She's A Rounder" and "Everybody Wants To Be Star" are tasty midtempo medium-rock semi-ballad whatevers. Can't say any of it's super memorable, but good pop sense, overall. Which seems to have been running in Vancouver's water supply in the early '80s.

xhuxk, Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

god this album is just bonkers. my kinda bonkers too. in the same bonkers vein as santana/mclaughlin or lenny white solo astral fusion.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0bPcJ1PGbmE/S1D-1iUAMFI/AAAAAAAAAUg/fw8rH34lEQs/s320/Colosseum+-+Electric+Savage001.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 12 August 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

chuck, i know you like 10 inch records, well, you need this one if you don't have it. lotsa fun. on edsel/demon from 1980.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-9MKvIbR8E8/Sw58o7ZeroI/AAAAAAAAAqE/3c7XGWs4l6c/s1600/The+Pirates+-+A+fistful+of+dubloons+1980.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 12 August 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Echo Park soundtrack, A&M 1986 -- / Tracks by Johnette and Mike Sherwood/Julie Christenson are fair-to-middling Ellen Foley/Shipley/Concrete Blonde-style big voiced gurl power ballads.

She was Chris D.'s wife and co-singer in Divine Horsemen, and then toured and recorded with Leonard Cohen. It was strange when I realized it was the same singer on some very different albums.

it made sense when i did it (Zachary Taylor), Thursday, 12 August 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

the fight at fenway! j.geils -vs- aerosmith! go!

Last: 8/14/2010 Aerosmith and the J. Geils Band rocked Fenway on Saturday, Aug. 14. Were you there? Was it all you expected it to be? Share your review here.

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J geils was great! They came prepared. Played two hours, non-stop and everything their fans wanted to hear. They could and SHOULD go out on tour tomorrow. Friends on the west coast are dying to see them out there. Its been decades!

Aerosmith started out great with Train Kept a Rollin and then it was all down hill from there.

They could have made it special with some older or rare songs for their home town fans, but they didn't. They stuck to their regular tour set list and it was a disappointment to a lot of people and long time fans. Did they really have to do PINK when they could have done something more classic like Seasons of Wither? really guys? Come ON! Throw us a dinosaur bone! It was a perfect night to stroll down memory lane with the fans that known you better and longer than anywhere else in the world.

We all could have been in Peoria watching this show with this set list and no one would have been the wiser. This was THE Boston show of their career and a special night for their long time, devoted fans ( that paid out the @@@ for these tickets!) and it could have been so much more and special. But in the end, it looked just like another day at the office for them.

Fenway concert Setlist

01. Train Kept A Rollin'
02. Love In An Elevator
03. Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees)
04. Livin' On The Edge
05. What It Takes (Zzzzzz)
06. Pink ( REALLY?)
07. Last Child
08. Cryin'
--Drum Solo--
09. Rag Doll
--Guitar Hero Joe-- (DUMB)
10. Stop Messin' Around (w/Tony & Adrian Perry)
11. I Don't Want To Miss A Thing
12. Come Together
13. Sweet Emotion
14. Baby Please Don't Go (usually great, but tonight it came off as a self indulgent mess)
15. Draw The Line

Encore:
16. Dream On
17. Walk This Way

Notes: Steven played Dream On at a white baby grand piano, atop the Green Monster! Must have been nice for him.

scott seward, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Jenny Dee & the Deelinquents - really fun; they play around the Boston area all the time - check them out.

J. Geils - Fantastic, playing all the songs you wanted to hear with a lot of energy; Wolf sounded great, and J. Geils/Magic Dick/Seth Justman were their ever-solid selves.

Aerosmith - SUCKED. Started off with Train Kept a Rollin', and then proceeded to play all their cheesiest ballads & 80's crapola...Just when it couldn't get any worse, Joe Perry starts playing against Guitar Hero on stage, then Joey Kramer plays a 30-second drum solo, followed by another 30-second drum solo only using his hands. Very, very frustrating - waiting for them to just start ripping out more of their classic 70's hits, but that just didn't happen...Aerosmith had ZERO energy, which is really disappointing seeing how they were in Boston, and at Fenway no less...The show ended with -what looked like, at least - Perry sniping at Tyler over Tyler's remark that he's going to be pregnant with Joe Tyler's baby put the rotten cherry on the top of this mess. Very disappointing, Aerosmith-wise,

scott seward, Monday, 16 August 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I was happy he didn't fall off the Green Monster but he did F up the beging of WHAT SONG? DREAM ON DUH!!!! The one he's been playing the longest. I spent over $300 per ticket to see them. My friend never saw Aerosmith. He thought they were good but I love my music and my ear caught everything. It's almost as if he didn't want to be there.

I never thought I'd admit this but "time to put the scarves to bed"!

scott seward, Monday, 16 August 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the image that summed up the night for me the best was watching the heavily branded "Joe Perry: Guitar Hero" bus roll through the crowded streets -- Joe sitting right up front with the interior lights on so everyone could see him in his purple Disco-Dracula outfit.

He might as well have been counting out stacks of hundreds, stopping occasionally to give the crowd the finger and laugh.

The guys have completely sold out. I guess we shouldn't be surprised. I mean, they haven't been the same band since they started working with people like Diane Warren. It's just so obvious they made a deal with the corporate Devil a long time ago and now we're seeing the sad, inevitable end game.

Geils blew them out of the water, as far as a genuine performance was concerned.

It's been a long time coming, but I'm off the Aerosmith wagon. They've just made it too impossible to respect them anymore.

scott seward, Monday, 16 August 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I spent $35 to see Slayer/Megadeth the other night and it was pure, blissful savagery. Sorry you had a lousy time, that Aerosmith playlist you posted above just looks horrendous.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 16 August 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i didn't go! sorry, should have put quotes around all that. i was just reposting stuff from the boston.com site. no way in hell i would pay a hundred bucks to see that. would love to see j.geils in a smaller place though.

scott seward, Monday, 16 August 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Those were funny. The night sounded horrendous.

Gorge, Monday, 16 August 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I raised the curious issue of Wild Cherry on this thread a few weeks back (and George has pointed out the Foghat II connection), so naturally when I saw a copy of the self-titled '76 LP with "Play That Funky Music" on it for $1, I picked it up. And while I wouldn't call it a hard rock record per se', there are definitely hints. I.e., you frequently get the idea of, say, a third-level Aerosmith-style rock band making a finanically beneficial move toward being a third-level Ohio Players-style funk band instead -- most notably in "The Lady Wants Your Money" (where guitar/vocal/songwriter Robert Parissi tries some Tyler-type tounge-twisted fast talk) and "Don't Go Near The Water" (best rock-funk on the album; I'd DJ it if I still DJ'd, I think, but there's still something awkward about their funk, sort of presaging what post-hair-metal bands like White Trash and Extreme -- who were known to cover "Play That Funky Music" -- would do with it 15 years later. Maybe even the Chili Peppers, though I'm trying not to think of that.) There's also definitely some remnants of boogie rock in the instrumental break toward the end of the big hit, and both that song and the closer "What In The Funk Do You See" explicitly address the move in lyrics (in the latter: "Forget Woodstock, I'm going on Soul Train!," after some possible Hendrix "Manic Depression" references.) Two soul covers: Wilson Pickett's "99 1/2" and Martha & the Vandellas' "Nowhere To Run," the latter slightly more rock and with some neat synth sounds (like a late '70s rock band, not a disco band, would do them) for seasoning. "Hold On" is their blue eyed soul ballad move, "Get It Up" mostly instrumental disco with a little rock guitar. Probably no surprise, as Northern Ohio boys, that they'd take the Players as their model, obviously. Goofy quote from one Bruno Bornino at The Cleveland Press on the back cover: "I've never heard a more danceable record. It's going to do for the wallflowers what man did to the dodo birds -- make them extinct!" Pretty sure actual disco critics hated them, or at least the hit, though; at least I can remember Michael Freedberg from the Boston Phoenix scoffing about it once. Which might make sense, since these white boys were clearly carpetbaggers. But "Play That Funky Music" went both #1 pop (three weeks) and #1 R&B anyway. They charted four more singles in the Top 100 after that, all from later albums, but none even got to the Top 40. And this album reached #5, but their two subsequent ones just hit #51 and #84. Still real curious about their earlier, allegedly more rock stuff, though.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a review of White Trash's debut sitting around in my newspaper files somewhere. It was a one or two sentence shred. Awful. Same with Extreme, known only for their disco angle, the
cover -- which I saw them perform at the Cat Club, a soppy ballad which was an MTV hit and Nuno Bettencourt who was a darling of guitar mags. What faddy gobblers.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link


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