"Billy" holds up better in the memory. When I reheard it last month the inapposite guitar strums and clumsy rhymes bothered me this time.
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"Animal Language" is kinda fun.
*"Serenade" rather.
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought Ecstasy was the best thing Lou had done in a long time. Like, a LONG time (since Songs For Drella at least, probably since New York). I also enjoyed The Stone: Issue 3, the free improv blow-out on Tzadik w/ Laurie Anderson & John Zorn. Those two stand up to anything Mr. Reed has done, IMHO.
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
he Stone: Issue 3, the free improv blow-out on Tzadik w/ Laurie Anderson & John Zorn.
curious what Lou contributed to this, exactly
― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Set the Twilight Reeling is leaner and monochromatic, so I prefer it to the excellent Ecstacy -- and, yes, they're his best albums since the early eighties trilogy.
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
having listened a few times now I gotta say I kinda really love the sound of "The Bells". Sorta reminds me of the Dion/Spector album. Oddly, the consistently worst thing about it is Lou's vocals, sounds like he's straining way too much most of the time. Even so, plenty of killer lines, particularly in "Families", a couple others
― RAGE, for Men (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i love The Bells; i think it's the density of the production/mix--cf, the overall thinness of GUIP just a year later--that makes all the difference between these relatively "ok" songs and those on other, comparably more or less hacked-out Reed records. probably my second fave '70s Lou disc really (Street Hassle will always come out tops for me).
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it took me by surprise - everything I'd read about it on the internet had led me to expect a much thinner/limp-sounding record. Were the stacked, overdriven synths an attempt to cop some movies from Bowie's Berlin-trilogy...? I think they come out sounding closer to La Dusseldorf or something.
― I Never Promised You A Whine Garden (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
well it was considered to be his art rock (a la Bowie, Eno, Heads, Gabriel) move at the time. so yeah, i suppose.
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
that's strange, it doesn't seem any art-ier than any of his other albums to me - its the usual mishmash of songs colliding with an inexplicably bizarre production aesthetic, which was pretty much his MO for the entire 70s
― I Never Promised You A Whine Garden (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
it wasn't as "street" as previous efforts, tho, and a helluva lot jazzier (sonically speaking), too. jazz + rock = art + rock. ^_^
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
the title track alone would probably be enough for people to say "art rock" at the time.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I dunno I don't hear the "jazz", to be honest.
― I Never Promised You A Whine Garden (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
there's nothing on here as capital "J" JAZZY (or hilarious) as "Sheltered Life" off of Rock n Roll Heart, for example
― I Never Promised You A Whine Garden (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Don Cherry plays on it -- what more do you want?
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
(but yeah, aside from that, not terribly jazzy)
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I know and I love him but his presence alone doth not a jazz record make. I mean even some of Cherry's own stuff can only be classified as jazz in the broadest sense of the term. Brown Rice doesn't really swing, y'know?
― I Never Promised You A Whine Garden (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Lou loved his Herbie Hancock records, that's for sure.
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
also this has to be some of the saddest lyrics Lou's ever written (Street Hassle comes close)
Mama, you tell me how's the familyAnd papa, tell me how thing's going by youAnd little baby sister, I heard that you got marriedAnd I heard that you had yourself a little baby girl, tooAnd here's some uncles and some cousins I know vaguelyAnd would you believe my old dog Chelsea's here, tooAnd would you believe nobody in this familywanted to keep herAnd now that dog's more of a part of this familythen I am, tooI don't come home much anymoreNo-no-no I don't come home much anymoreMama
And mama, I know how disappointed you areAnd papa, I know that you feel the same way, tooAnd no-no-no-no-no I still haven't got marriedAnd no-no-no there's no grandson planned here for youAnd by the way, daddy tell me how's the businessI understand that your stock she's growing very highNo, daddy, you're not a poor man anymoreAnd I hope you'll realize that before you dieBecause I don't come home much anymoreNo-no-no-no-no I don't come home much no moreBut daddy
And please-please-please-please-pleasecome on let's not start this business againI know how much you resent the life that I haveBut one more time, I don't want the family businessDon't want to inherit it upon the day that you dieReally, daddy should have given it to my sisterYou know Elisabeth, you know Elisabethshe has a better head for those things than IShe lives practically around the cornerThat's really the kind of child you could be proud ofBut papa, I know that this visit's a mistakeThere's nothing here we have in common, except our nameAnd families that live out in the suburbsOften make each other cryAnd I don't think that I'll come home much anymoreNo-no, I don't think I'll come home much againMamaPapaFamiliesOften make each other cryNo, I don't think that I'll come home much anymore(How's the families)
― I Never Promised You A Whine Garden (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
no, not "jazz record," '70s jazz-inspired sonics. dig?
xp
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
luv "Families."
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Favourite track is "All Through the Night"
― tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link
'70s jazz-inspired sonics. dig?
I... guess? what 70s jazz record sounds like this?
― Specify music my dick hair (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
@ Moshy: I think that's his guitar gettin' all squeely in there. Sometimes hard to distinguish from Zorn's blowin'. ;-)
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
whoahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Ngt7VY-Iw
― tylerw, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
That rules.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
will go to my grave saying that album's overcondemned
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
SING ALONG WITH LOU
"She was the first girlin her neighbourhoodto get raped in Tompkins Square...real good"
― Huey Lewisies & The Newsie-Wewsies (snoball), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Lou too bored to sing along with Lou
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f480ebfbdc358daf1048c2f1aa537b33/tumblr_mhmtj3PaEa1s54i6co1_400.jpgi listened to sally can't dance a couple weeks ago -- pretty good! worst thing is the sax on "billy".
― tylerw, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
lol that's one of the only songs I like on the album
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
i think the song is ok, but man, that dude playing the sax! like he runs out of ideas about 15 seconds in and has to keep playing for another three minutes.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
standard lou reed operating procedure!
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
not denying its essential cheeseball Saturday Night Live-ness
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
earotic sax
― tylerw, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjL0HPeCIAAxlsj.jpg
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
https://31.media.tumblr.com/a152bdb00e88655976632a6696c8f433/tumblr_n3h4darPRJ1qckm0wo1_500.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
think i'm going to listen to ecstasy on the bus ride home
I was listening to the "Sally Can't Dance" this morning for the first time in forver and it was a lot better then I remember. Something about the sleazy bar-band r&b combined with Lou "Lou-ing" really makes for something...odd.
"Animal Language"!
I can only imagine how Lou zig-zagged around the beat singing these songs live
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
new sensations is kind of a jam throughout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgLn4zo-wA&feature=kp
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 25 July 2014 15:36 (ten years ago) link
I really can't stand the overall sound of Sally Can't Dance. I've only kept three songs from it (guess which ones)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link
can't stand the sound of Rock n Roll Animal either tbh
I used to hate Rock N Roll Animal, I remember just cringing the first time I heard it when I was in college, but I've really come around to it. Esp in the last five yrs or so.
My wife, a die hard Velvets fan, who doesn't have much time for solo Lou considers RnR Animal to be a crime against nature
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link
yeah i'm still on the "why no i dont recall wishing lou would replace the velvets with the silver bullet band" side when it comes to rnr animal
― da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
i mean i may turn around on it, lou reed with the silver bullet band does sound not unamusing
― da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
but basically any "lou aims for cobo hall" re-arrangement of a velvets song/demo <<<<<<< the velvets song/demo
― da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
i forgive 70s critics for being kinder because they were coming from a "why ISNT lou more successful, maybe female background vocalists will do the trick" pov
― da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
also it was hard to hear VU before Lou Reed when VU hadn't come out
― da croupier, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
For me it scratches a certain itch, when I think of those songs I don't usually think of the RnR Anminal vers but it's cool to hear them in a different context.
I saw Jandek a few days after Lou passed and I really, really wanted him to come out and just do a note perfect vers of "Sweet Jane" from RnR Animal.
That, sadly, did not happen.
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 July 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link