Erykah Badu: C /D, S&D

jaw drops around 1:30 (xpost)

Look for Michael Jackson’s little sister Janet to enter next week’s chart at #1, with her new IDJ album Discipline headed for 180k in sales, give or take. Universal Motown’s neo-soul stalwart Erykah Badu is a lock for #2 (hey, that rhymes) with between 125-135k.

kinda low :-/

actually that's pretty good! considering "honey"wasn't that big... I expected about 150K and it can still probably do that.

Janet, however... those numbers are sad.

x-post -- Yeah, but given the business climate and all, not surprising.

stevie, that Kendricks album is unfortunately nothing like the title track. the rest is nice sweet soul. i remember one other good track on it.

OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from.

The album of which you speak, People...Hold On, does blow much, much mind from beginning to end. Now I gotta put on "Eddie's Love."

i am listening to the ramp track now. hahahaha, awesome!

haha, the singer on the ramp stuff sounds kinda badu-ish.

my favorite ramp song is that disco-ish one that got reissued on 12" recently ... i cant remember what its called but i bought a copy and like it more than anything (yes anything!!) on the lp

: D : D : D : D

People... Hold On has five classics at the least: My People Hold On, Date With the Rain, Girl You Need a Change of Mind, If You Let Me, Eddie's Love. A couple others are hardly filler.

Most solo Kendricks tracks are worth listening to because of that sweet sweet voice of his.

this is good but nowhere near as good as mama's gun. needs more rhodes!

i agree w/chaki

so far (i've only listened to the whole thing once and have listened to the first half like 4 or 5 times), The Healer, My People and The Cell are standouts.

anyone know what the sample/break is on the Cell or if that's live drumming looped?

Badu on SoulStage:

http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1582333&vid=212498

I need to see her live.

i agree w/chaki & jaxon. there aren't a lot of hooks here, and the healer is my favorite.

pretty sure the drums on the cell are not live.

Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS, and comparisons to earlier records, and trying to trainspot drum sounds, when there is all this twisted shit on display? Seriously? Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.

plus, there are lots of hooks on this album.

Actually I'm a little surprised that, until now, the ILX reaction was as uniformly positive as it was. This is a pretty uncompromising album on the whole.

"to all my girls in therapy
see i'm a tell you this for free"

wooo!

only heard it once, but so far my favorite thing is that the album ends with "honey".

Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS

yes, because they make songs sound good.

and comparisons to earlier records

yes, because she made one much better than this.

Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.

wow. whatta douche.

this a very good, interesting album. i like it in its own right. mamas gun is way better, songwise, but this is still good in its own way. theres some things i wish were a bit diff about it and its not the masterpiece you guys have all made it out to be but my interest is piqued for part 2 this year.

i wish they replayed the RAMP song rather than just loop it up like they have done.

"Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS

yes, because they make songs sound good."

they are not the only thing that makes songs good.

"and comparisons to earlier records

yes, because she made one much better than this."

i mean, i love her older stuff very much, but i am definitely way into the route she is going.

"Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.

wow. whatta douche.

-- chaki"

personally, i'm all about artists just doing their thing. i get the vibe from her last 2 joints that she no longer feels like she has to compromise her sound in any way, and i think her music is all the better for it. hiphop and soul are not separate in her world, and i like that. it's not about songs, but about pure feeling and mood which i also really like. someone somewhere mentioned this album being like "Voodoo", and i kind of agree with that in general, but it is not like they sound alike in any way really. it's the way they achieve what they do, it's like "ambient soul" or something, and it is far more interesting to me than just another "hook" or whatever.

i'm not saying this album is an instant classic, it seems too difficult of a record to say something like that about without hearing it more times than i have so far. but i really like it, and i will be playing it enough that if it is a classic, it will shine through.

except for that last line, i kinda agree w/ pcock

honestly, i'm more excited about discovering this RAMP album! it's great.

I've already listened to this one about 15 times.

It's probably a classic.

in the last complex, there's a blurb claiming erykah produced the whole thing in GarageBand.

sounds like it

does that mean on top of what all the other producers gave her?

you should email her and ask.

i heard she answers all her emails in Outlook

hey would an ex-fan who saw her live on the MAMA'S GUN tour and became pretty disenchanted soon after be advised to get this? i listened to the first album obsessively, thought ...GUN had it's moments, didn't bother with the third album.

nah you'd hate it.

????

hey chaki why are you trolling this thread

oh yeah I'm a douche, never mind

bye everyone!

as much of a troll chaki is, i don't think he's trolling on this thread at all. it's not a perfect album. it's good and i'm warming up to it, but it's not her best work

=/= 'youd hate it'

i love the new album, but i could see why someone who loved baduizm but hated mama's gun might hate this - its another (awesome) step away from the first album's (awesome) relative orthodoxy.

im not trolling you just said something completely douchey.

"Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore."

way to be completely fucking condescending.

Erykah Badu: New Amerykah, Pt. 1: 4th World War (Motown) I know when I make my albums, I like to give 'em titles that roll off the tongue like this one! Let's be frankish: Ms. Badu is one classy lady, a warm and very convincing singer who garnered boatloads of attention a few years back not just for her voice but for intriguing headgear ensembles--and she'll never release a Pt. 2 of this thing for all eternity! Featuring the late J. Dilla , Bilal, Madlib, and a bunch of other well known guys who appear on albums like this, NAP14WW--not a postal code but an acronym!--continues her distinguished and singular tradition of fine albums by Erykah Badu! Buy it and keep her favorite millinery supply house in business!

from some Yahoo! dude's music blog

This record is so fucking good.

I just had to say that again.

I'm done waffling. Total masterpiece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4H4ebFVWE

^^ that's kinda what this album sounds like to me

from some Yahoo! dude's music blog

i swear it's not me!

"the first album's (awesome) relative orthodoxy."

what? there wasnt much orthodoxy on the first album, not compared to mamas gun anyway. that was a much more (brilliantly) traditional sounding record. stuff like apple tree and on and on though sounded very modern.