― hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 10 February 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
To fully understand the song "Smells Like Teen Spirit" you should catch the video on MTV. It has them playing a scungy dance in a school gym with an audience straight from hell, or Seattle, where the band is from. The song makes blatent fun of the people who listen to it, so pay attention, they may mean you. At least if you are banging your head. ;)
Jon
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 February 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 February 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
This should go on the front ILXor.com page.
― Un investigador del siglo XXI (AaronHz), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
the baby on Nevermind is now 17:
http://www.paxtonland.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/baby-on-nevermind-album-cover.JPG
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
I see a slight Dave Grohl resemblance, hmmm...
― marmotwolof, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link
I was 18 and Bleach was the bomb. Coming after Mudhoney & Tad but so gutsy, urgent and nervous it was different, above the pack. It kept unexpectedly switching gears in the most surprising, yet natural ways. I still rate it higher than any other release of theirs. Actually when Nevermind blew up I couldn't understand why Nirvana provoked/deserved the big break, although I liked that record a lot, it didn't bring anything new to the game in the way the first album did. I guess it made them slicker and more palatable.
I think I've mentioned this elsewhere, but seeing the video of Smells Like Teen Spirit on a hotel TV in a remote mexican town during a long cross-country trip was an unbelievable experience. I had taped the record to bring it along, a gem I shared with very few people. Or so I thought.
― blunt, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link
"I've heard a track from a new band called Nirvana."
love this
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, that was amazing to read those reactions.
Anyway, I'm listening to that Singles box set and it's pretty classic all by itself. Okay, it has "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which we're all so very tired of, but it also contains "Even In His Youth," "Aneurysm," "Come As You Are," "Endless, Nameless," "School," "Drain You," "Sliver," "Polly," "Been A Son," (the previous five songs being live recordings), "In Bloom," "Lithium," "Curmudgeon," "Heart-Shaped Box," "Milk It," "Marigold," "All Apologies," "Rape Me" and (yes, it's here) "Moist Vagina." All in all not a bad introduction to them, and leaning way more toward Classic than Dud.
(Man, after all this time "Heart-Shaped Box" still sounds incredible.)
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Classic! "The Story Of Simon Simopath" and "All Of Us" were both excellent albums! ;)
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:12 (seventeen years ago) link
That kid looks like Ch1oe Sevigny.
― Phil D., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I think it's interesting that those messages were dated January 1992. The album had been out for three whole months and still nobody had heard of them. No wonder Spin magazine chose Bandwagonesque over Nevermind for Best Album of 1991.
I feel bad for that poor kid. How would you like to go through life with that claim to fame? "Yep. That's my peener."
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 28 June 2007 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I remember seeing the "SLTS" vid on 120 Minutes, it was first time I'd heard Nirvana. I hated it, I was thinking "put this shit on Headbanger's Ball and show me 'Senses Working Overtime'".
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 28 June 2007 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link
I honestly don't remember the first time I heard SLTS, but I remember when I bought it at Camelot Records, I bought Deee-Lite's World Clique on the same day.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 28 June 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link
I probably said this on another thread, but I was working in an adolescent group home when I first heard "SLTS", and I'm serious, almost overnight, those kids in government care (all hurting in some way, obv) threw out their GN'R CDs and replaced them with Nevermind. Its impact (at least on that demographic) was that noticeable.
― Lostandfound, Thursday, 28 June 2007 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Ha ha, that sounds like they all traded up Gn'R for Nirvana because I heard "SLTS". You know what I mean.
― Lostandfound, Thursday, 28 June 2007 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Kurt's whining about Guns N' Roses, and his steadfast refusal to believe that anyone could like both bands, is an excellent capsule of just what a fraudulent prick he was. He even went so far as to say that there were rival groups of GNR and Nirvana fans at high schools, with the poor little Nirvana fans being picked on. All this from a guy who stole a chord progression from a Boston song.
In Utero's great, though.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 28 June 2007 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link
a fucking sweet ass boston song, though.
― funny farm, Thursday, 28 June 2007 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link
One of those bands that is an overall "dud" with the exception of a song or two.
― Cunga, Thursday, 28 June 2007 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link
rival groups of GNR and Nirvana fans at high schools, with the poor little Nirvana fans being picked on.
I never saw that quote but the Nirvana and Gn'R fans at my school were either cool with each other or one and the same...it was the Pantera fans that were bullies.
― marmotwolof, Thursday, 28 June 2007 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link
"I never saw that quote but the Nirvana and Gn'R fans at my school were either cool with each other or one and the same...it was the Pantera fans that were bullies."
I'm sure it was just something that Kurt desperately wanted to believe -- cool Nirvana fans vs. thuggish GNR fans.
"a fucking sweet ass boston song, though."
Indeed.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 28 June 2007 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Boston>>>>>>>>Nirvana
― leavethecapital, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link
guys I'm pretty sure I've ranted on ILM before about how the SLTS chord progression is not the "More Than a Feeling" chord progression. Even Kurt Cobain disagrees with me, but they're not the same. (The rhythms are kinda similar though)
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
"More Than a Feeling" = I - IV - vi - V "Smells Like Teen Spirit" = I - IV - bIII - bVI
― Tim Ellison, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link
So their at least both Roman.
― humansuit, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link
they're
yeah
and SLTS is in a minor key, MTAF in major
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link
I call bullshit, and the first Boston album is one of my all-time favorites ferreal.
― kenan, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link
no, the tonic is major in SLTS but they use the borrowed chords (bIII and bVI)
x-post
― Tim Ellison, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link
o rly? he uses power chords, it's hard to tell.
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Can we not pretend that Smells Like Teen Spirit is a Boston rip off.
― humansuit, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link
play it on a guitar with a minor tonic chord and it will sound very wrong, curtis.
― Tim Ellison, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link
"Siamese Dream" is a Boston rip-off way more than Nirvana ever thought about being
― kenan, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link
I think that's because he doesn't play a third at all, he plays a power chord, and adding a minor third to a power chord is more noticeable than adding a major third
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― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link
but I'm not gonna argue with you, I don't want to turn this thread into that sort of thing!
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link
The baffled king composing hallelujah? x
― humansuit, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link
hahahaha where's Glodberg when you need him
― marmotwolof, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm not that desperate!!
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link
ok, i just listened to part of it and i think you're right! if you're going to play the third, the major third does work way better, though. the melody is all minor diatonic, though, so it's probably justifiable to say it's in a minor key. still, i can't help hearing that tonic chord as being major like, you know, the tonic chord in "Iron Man" and stuff.
― Tim Ellison, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link
I was listening to an old c90 compilation of Redd Kross single, b-sides etc and for the umpteenth time wondering why their big marketing push in the UK was spearheaded by probably their worst song - "Trance". Today it finally dawned on me that some joker at the record company probably noted the similar riff as "Teen Spirit" and figured that was going to make them famous. Result: Redd Kross sink like a stone, which is kinda sad as they would have made wonderful stars.
― everything, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link
kenan
I'm not denying that Nirvana are classic. I just like that first Boston album better than anything Nirvana did. As far as proper Nirvana releases go, I've always liked In Utero better than Nevermind.
Nirvana borrowed more from the Pixies than Boston.
― leavethecapital, Friday, 29 June 2007 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link
well, i relent, because the Nirvana vs Boston thing seemed rooted in music theory, not casual listening. So I can't argue about that. I think Nirvana is a great, great band, better than Boston for sure, but that first Boston album is a-fucking-mazing.
But the sentiments in the lyrics are kind of almost the same. Kurt was just more pissed about it.
I understand about indecision But I dont care if I get behind People livin in competition All I want is to have my peace of mind
― kenan, Friday, 29 June 2007 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link
But how else to compare than to listen? I don't relent, but I think we can all agree that Pixies / Sonic / Muses was the blueprint for Nirvana more than Boston, yes.
― humansuit, Friday, 29 June 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link
"Teen Spirit" is no more a rip off of "MTAF" than it is of The Pixies' "U-Mass." That is to say, it's neither.
― billstevejim, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Once Naked For Nirvana, Now A Teen Spirit
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 24 July 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Destroy. Search Boston though.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 25 July 2008 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link
So people just revive this thread and make the same two posts, huh?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 25 July 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Lather, rinse, repeat.
They're going to be doing stories on that Spencer Elden guy until he's dead.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 July 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Nirvana and Boston are both awesome. Boston is awesome music for rides at the state fair. Nirvana is awesome music to smoke cigarettes outside the mall to.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 25 July 2008 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
him, the bee girl from the Blind Melon video and the girl from the Violent Femmes s/t album cover should form a band
― latebloomer, Friday, 25 July 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link