Erykah Badu: C /D, S&D

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kinda low :-/

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

actually that's pretty good! considering "honey"wasn't that big... I expected about 150K and it can still probably do that.

Janet, however... those numbers are sad.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post -- Yeah, but given the business climate and all, not surprising.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

stevie, that Kendricks album is unfortunately nothing like the title track. the rest is nice sweet soul. i remember one other good track on it.

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from.

The album of which you speak, People...Hold On, does blow much, much mind from beginning to end. Now I gotta put on "Eddie's Love."

Terrible Cold, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i am listening to the ramp track now. hahahaha, awesome!

stevie, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, the singer on the ramp stuff sounds kinda badu-ish.

Jordan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

my favorite ramp song is that disco-ish one that got reissued on 12" recently ... i cant remember what its called but i bought a copy and like it more than anything (yes anything!!) on the lp

deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

: D : D : D : D

The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

People... Hold On has five classics at the least: My People Hold On, Date With the Rain, Girl You Need a Change of Mind, If You Let Me, Eddie's Love. A couple others are hardly filler.

Andy K, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Most solo Kendricks tracks are worth listening to because of that sweet sweet voice of his.

Patrick South, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

this is good but nowhere near as good as mama's gun. needs more rhodes!

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree w/chaki

jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:43 (sixteen years ago) link

so far (i've only listened to the whole thing once and have listened to the first half like 4 or 5 times), The Healer, My People and The Cell are standouts.

anyone know what the sample/break is on the Cell or if that's live drumming looped?

jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Badu on SoulStage:

http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1582333&vid=212498

I need to see her live.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 28 February 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree w/chaki & jaxon. there aren't a lot of hooks here, and the healer is my favorite.

pretty sure the drums on the cell are not live.

Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS, and comparisons to earlier records, and trying to trainspot drum sounds, when there is all this twisted shit on display? Seriously? Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link

plus, there are lots of hooks on this album.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 28 February 2008 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually I'm a little surprised that, until now, the ILX reaction was as uniformly positive as it was. This is a pretty uncompromising album on the whole.

Eric H., Thursday, 28 February 2008 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"to all my girls in therapy
see i'm a tell you this for free"

wooo!

only heard it once, but so far my favorite thing is that the album ends with "honey".

tricky, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS

yes, because they make songs sound good.

and comparisons to earlier records

yes, because she made one much better than this.

Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.

wow. whatta douche.

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link

this a very good, interesting album. i like it in its own right. mamas gun is way better, songwise, but this is still good in its own way. theres some things i wish were a bit diff about it and its not the masterpiece you guys have all made it out to be but my interest is piqued for part 2 this year.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish they replayed the RAMP song rather than just loop it up like they have done.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

"Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS

yes, because they make songs sound good."

they are not the only thing that makes songs good.

"and comparisons to earlier records

yes, because she made one much better than this."

i mean, i love her older stuff very much, but i am definitely way into the route she is going.

"Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.

wow. whatta douche.

-- chaki"

personally, i'm all about artists just doing their thing. i get the vibe from her last 2 joints that she no longer feels like she has to compromise her sound in any way, and i think her music is all the better for it. hiphop and soul are not separate in her world, and i like that. it's not about songs, but about pure feeling and mood which i also really like. someone somewhere mentioned this album being like "Voodoo", and i kind of agree with that in general, but it is not like they sound alike in any way really. it's the way they achieve what they do, it's like "ambient soul" or something, and it is far more interesting to me than just another "hook" or whatever.

i'm not saying this album is an instant classic, it seems too difficult of a record to say something like that about without hearing it more times than i have so far. but i really like it, and i will be playing it enough that if it is a classic, it will shine through.

pipecock, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

except for that last line, i kinda agree w/ pcock

deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

honestly, i'm more excited about discovering this RAMP album! it's great.

Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I've already listened to this one about 15 times.

Eric H., Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

It's probably a classic.

Eric H., Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

in the last complex, there's a blurb claiming erykah produced the whole thing in GarageBand.

jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

sounds like it

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

does that mean on top of what all the other producers gave her?

Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

you should email her and ask.

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i heard she answers all her emails in Outlook

deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

hey would an ex-fan who saw her live on the MAMA'S GUN tour and became pretty disenchanted soon after be advised to get this? i listened to the first album obsessively, thought ...GUN had it's moments, didn't bother with the third album.

pisces, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

nah you'd hate it.

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

????

deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

hey chaki why are you trolling this thread

oh yeah I'm a douche, never mind

bye everyone!

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 28 February 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

as much of a troll chaki is, i don't think he's trolling on this thread at all. it's not a perfect album. it's good and i'm warming up to it, but it's not her best work

jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

=/= 'youd hate it'

deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the new album, but i could see why someone who loved baduizm but hated mama's gun might hate this - its another (awesome) step away from the first album's (awesome) relative orthodoxy.

stevie, Thursday, 28 February 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

im not trolling you just said something completely douchey.

"Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore."

way to be completely fucking condescending.

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Erykah Badu: New Amerykah, Pt. 1: 4th World War (Motown) I know when I make my albums, I like to give 'em titles that roll off the tongue like this one! Let's be frankish: Ms. Badu is one classy lady, a warm and very convincing singer who garnered boatloads of attention a few years back not just for her voice but for intriguing headgear ensembles--and she'll never release a Pt. 2 of this thing for all eternity! Featuring the late J. Dilla , Bilal, Madlib, and a bunch of other well known guys who appear on albums like this, NAP14WW--not a postal code but an acronym!--continues her distinguished and singular tradition of fine albums by Erykah Badu! Buy it and keep her favorite millinery supply house in business!

from some Yahoo! dude's music blog

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

This record is so fucking good.

I just had to say that again.

kenan, Saturday, 1 March 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm done waffling. Total masterpiece.

Eric H., Saturday, 1 March 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4H4ebFVWE

kl0pper, Saturday, 1 March 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

^^ that's kinda what this album sounds like to me

jaxon, Sunday, 2 March 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link

from some Yahoo! dude's music blog

i swear it's not me!

jaxon, Sunday, 2 March 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"the first album's (awesome) relative orthodoxy."

what? there wasnt much orthodoxy on the first album, not compared to mamas gun anyway. that was a much more (brilliantly) traditional sounding record. stuff like apple tree and on and on though sounded very modern.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 2 March 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Big interview/feature article on her in the Sunday New York Times by writer Melana Ryzik excerpt:

She took time off to care for her two children — she also has a daughter, Puma, 3, with the rapper D.O.C. (Her kids’ beds, mattresses on the floor, are feet away from hers in her Brooklyn living room. The family mostly lives in a house in Dallas.) Meanwhile the music industry entered the digital age, and Ms. Badu, a self-described “analog girl in a digital world,” was in danger of being left behind.

But in 2004 ?uestlove gave her a computer — her first — for Christmas. She chatted online with producer friends like him, Q-Tip and J Dilla, and they began to bombard her with music. “Everybody sending me these things, saying, ‘Erykah, come on, we want you back, we need you to do this,’ ” Ms. Badu said.

Her son introduced her to GarageBand, the music-making program for Macs, and she was off. With the laptop, “I could be here, in my own space, with headphones on, and the kids could be doing what they doing, and I’m cooking dinner still, I’m making juices still, and it’s so easy just to sing,” she said. “You got an idea — boom! Idea, boom!”

In about a year she wrote more than 75 songs, many of which she split among the three albums

curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 March 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Here's the link

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/arts/music/02ryzi.html?ref=music

Ms. Badu also plans to start a lifestyle magazine, The Freaq, this summer; the first issue will come with a copy of “New AmErykah: Part Two.” Both records will also be available on a U.S.B. stick for fans to plug into their computers; for added value Ms. Badu wants to record a U.S.B. commentary track to explain her references and inspiration. A tour will start in May.

“I swear to God, this must be my artistic peak,” Ms. Badu said in an earlier interview at Electric Lady

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 March 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link


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