al ship's top 50 rap/r&b crossover singles of the 00s -- which is your favorite?

i love the "k" especially, its great

yeesh. that wasn't even in reference to you, really

im taking it very personally

yeah her/the song is kinda weird and campy. it works, but it also makes total sense that she was a one hit wonder, have no idea how that approach would work more than once.

i never did pick up TH's album...really kinda intrigued by it now though. the closest comparison point i'm coming up with is the similarly campy blu cantrell, who never really worked over a whole album either.

keyshia cole is different surely, the reason she's never clicked for me outside of a few singles and guest appearances is that she always comes across as a b-grade mary j blige. not bad or ineffective exactly, but just...too similar and just not quite as good.

obv rakim's verse slays, and truth hurts' vocals slay, and the beat slays, the entire song slays and that's why it's here right? i just don't think any of its components outshine the others.

i guess rev was talking about me and yeah i guess i am in the minority finding rakim's attempt in his 40s to suddenly pretend he is scarface a smh moment.

neither t.hurts nor rakim woulda had a hit there without each other, they're perfectly balanced to the beat. such be the typical synergy dummies appear not to fathom on a rap/rnb crossover list thread.

although yeah deej was right the first time with the 'paid in full' throwback observation - rakim's effect is in sheer presence, as well as complimentary vocal timbre, rather than hm having like a notably hot 16 or whatever

bleek analogy is completely nonsensical so i dunno what to say about that

and double yeah, truth hurts is awesome on that shit fuiud

as the person who started this disagreement let me be clear: fuiud

truth hurts iirc

"b-grade mary j blige" is giving Keyshia Cole WAAAAAY too much credit

i have been listening solely to these songs since this thread was created; it is v pleasant

"b-grade mary j blige" is giving Keyshia Cole WAAAAAY too much credit

i was being kind, i did waver over whether to type b or c

I'd say maybe x, and that's ONLY because I didn't want to strangle her on "Last Night"

so does that make k.michelle b-grade kc or z-grade mjb...?

yahhh k. cole is insufferable

keyshia has some joints

she also needs a lozenge in the worst way

so in "let it go," she should really be singing about mucus, is what you're saying?

and in "last night" she should be singing about putting on nasal strips?

in general I just want her to stop singing but making everything be about the chronicles of her hideously-abused larynx would have been funny

i have no use for her beyond those two songs and gifs of her mother

ha her reality show did make me stop outright hating her, it's true

i have no use for her beyond those two songs and gifs of her mother

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:25 PM Bookmark

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"b-grade mary j blige" is giving Keyshia Cole WAAAAAY too much credit

― people are for loving (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:50 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

keyshia is not bad

this song is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29qvbeDA0iU

cant really defend the video tho

fuck haters itt

& shes a way more consistent/powerful performer than any truth hurts album track ive ever heard

"Next Episode" or "Signs" tbh

i cant vote for 'next episode' just cuz it doesnt feel like it belongs here

It doesn't but I'm taking a "which of these tracks do I like best?" stance.

so does dan perry hate keyshia cole as much as he loves the star wars prequels

if I send you a check for 50 cents will you get off of my dick

fun fact: a full 1/3rd of these songs aren't about love or sex or relationships in any way, it's not like "The Next Episode" is the only outlier.

Keyshia Cole is a really solid singles artist, even if she comes off like a Mary J. clone and her singing is goofy sometimes really i feel like she's earned her spot with some good songs

I dunno, I always thought The Next Episode wasn't crossover because I always considered it a straight hip-hop track, since Nate Dogg's bit was really just an outro.

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yeah w/ the next episode its not about subject matter, it just seems like nate dogg is way less R&B artist than hook dude & slippery slope & all that

you guys are maybe putting too much into the word "crossover," which I only used because w/ "collaboration" I wouldn't have been able to include stuff like the Snoop song

im just sayin, nate dogg singing a hook doesnt make me think 'R&B'

you realize he's on this list thrice, right, and that i wrote lengthy blurbs about each song basically touching on all the points you guys are going on about

i just looked at the scores

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ah shit i meant to come back here and vote for closet freak. oh well

sort of want everyone who voted to state what their vote was. i voted "best of me"!

I voted Green Light

the top two should not be the top two

no one should have voted for "empire state of mind" ffs! how tin must one's ears be to consider that better than anything else here?

i voted j-lo

or possibly truth hurts, can't remember

ain't it funny is a good one

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