man the tightrope remix is fucking fucking fucking HORRIBLE
― 8o---e*.\\\||///.*ə---o8 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link
So so good.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 26 August 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
ultimately this ended up being one of those things that i thought was really cool then never ended up wanting to listen to
― underrated klaatu albums i have loved (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 August 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
it's wack
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 August 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Great album, still.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 26 August 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
"Oh, Maker" in particular is devastating.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 26 August 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
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Yeah pretty much feel the same - a week or so of intensive listening, no urge to do so since. One of those better in theory deals probably, Should give it another go soon though, she is good.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 26 August 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i still think it's good in theory, just never strikes my mood
― i got what t.rex turok the mic right (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 August 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
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― king boy swag (The Reverend), Thursday, 26 August 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
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i dont agree with this entirely but i def feel like its a record where i have to be in the mood to listen to a lot of it to want to listen to any of it -- def a record that gains from the kitchen-sink-dj-mix feel imo
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Friday, 27 August 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I still like it...Unlike most other people I wasn't anticipate the album at all and only checked it out after the overwhelming praise on ILM and elsewhere. So it's been a slow getting-to-know-you rather than Yeah!-Yeah!-Yeah!-breakfast-bye.
It will be Top 10 for me this year, I expect.
― seandalai, Friday, 27 August 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
"wasn't anticipating" - sigh.
― seandalai, Friday, 27 August 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, Maker
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 6 September 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a weird dream about listening to a foreign edition of this album and for some reason they had left off "57821" and another song, and I didn't understand why.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
But did it have an Obi strip? Or a bonus remix track?
― seandalai, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
For some reason this album only works for me in bite-sized segments... I can listen to almost any sequence of two or three songs from this and find something to enjoy but taken as a whole it's just irritating.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 12 September 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
"the r&b album that dog latin likes" is in apt enough summation of this
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 12 September 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
**rolls eyes**
― *sets trend* (deej), Sunday, 12 September 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 September 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
*follows trend*
― markers garvey (The Reverend), Sunday, 12 September 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
**rolls blunt**
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 September 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
**rolls 20 deep**
― max, Sunday, 12 September 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
*rmdb*
― *sets trend* (deej), Sunday, 12 September 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
how DOES one roll one's damn balls?
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
**checks****achieves**
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
*rollin rollin rollin*
― *sets trend* (deej), Monday, 13 September 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
saw her live last week. was surprised that her band was so tiny (keyboardist/bassist, guitarist and drummer, but hey it is a recession) and weirdly that they all looked like dre3000 doubles from the hey ya video. too much rocking out (or too much of the rockier numbers from the album) for my liking, with lots of widdly guitar soloing towards the end too. might just be my own tastes, but i find her rock songs a bit 'anonymous', so would have liked to heard more of the ballads from the album, or hear the band play around with the arrangments more (was surprised that even though she had about 3 dancers on stage, the backing vocals were from tape). but she herself was fantastic, both as a dancer and singer, and general interesting person to look at. i read some complaints that she is a cold performer (yawn) but thats exactly the point. and the cover of smile was sublime. was also surprised the audience was so white - i thought it would be more like 50/50 than 80/20.
xpost - cant listen to the album in one go either - its too all over the place.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 13 September 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link
For some reason this album only works for me in bite-sized segments... I can listen to almost any sequence of two or three songs from this and find something to enjoy but taken as a whole it's just irritating.― Matt DC, Sunday, 12 September 2010 23:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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well yeah i think the issue is that it's clear that the album's a chopshop of what was originally intended to be two separate ep suites, though i'd now argue that it's the additional haywire middle section in particular ('oh maker', awful awful awful 'come alive', 'mush & roses'), bisecting said suites, that ends up draping the catastrophically enervating pall over the rest as a whole. (and suites 2 & 3 would have already been awkward enough put together anyway.)
the charge follows i suppose as to why monae's magpie irritances over the course of an album would be any less magnified over the course of these would-be ep's - because from an objective perspective they're clearly not. perhaps the concision of the shorter format inherently suggests a kind of relieving self-awareness that implies more interest in creating something tangible for the listener than is currently been shown here with this; and again i have to return to the resulting loss of the archandroid "theme" which in its seriocomedy allowed a suspension and an immersion to happen concomitantly.
the "kitchen-sink-dj-mix" argument remains some bullshit sophistry.
― r|t|c, Monday, 13 September 2010 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually yeah I'd agree with that first para, that middle section is the bit that really annoys me.
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 September 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd be interested to hear what the indifferent ppls thought of the suites (1-8, 12-18) as listened to independently - for me they hang together way way better, and retain the still-not-unflawed but nevertheless oddly forgiving x-factor i've been on about.
― r|t|c, Monday, 13 September 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
naw, this album is stronger for its blown-out, huge, all-over-the-placeness
(plus hating on "oh maker" = gtfo)
― markers garvey (The Reverend), Monday, 13 September 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 12 September 2010 23:44 (Yesterday) Bookmark
It's a gateway album, LOL!
But seriously, I'm also having a hard time classifying this as R'n'B necessarily
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 13 September 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
For a start, it's steeped in '60s pop and rock which isn't really a contemporary r'n'b trope is it? I've been enjoying Badu, Quadron and Solange recently too FWIW.
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 13 September 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
oh let's do this again
― k3vin k., Monday, 13 September 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't do it dog latin!
― papa's got a brand new discrete strategy (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, forgive me for not realising this was a squillion-post thread and that it had been done to death already.
― village idiot (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm just warning you as one of the people who expressed "in a way this isn't really an R&B album" type sentiments earlier on the thread.
― papa's got a brand new discrete strategy (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
No mention of this at all so far?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xP9edv-RcA
http://www.jmonae.com/blog/janelle-monae-featured-on-the-for-colored-girls-soundtrack/
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Not that I have anything to say about it on first listen, except that it's okay. I am interested in seeing the film. When I saw a broadcast of this play (okay, "chorepoem") on TV, it was pretty wrenching.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
choreopoem, god, get it right.
There's something about "Without a Fight" that reminds me a bit of "Crazy."
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
There is just so much more music on this damn album than anything else this year.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 26 December 2010 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link
It feels like about 5 hours worth of music crammed into one and change.
"chorepoem" seems fine to me, idk
― r|t|c, Sunday, 26 December 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, it's actually pretty good, or that's how I remember it. It's been many years since I read it or saw that TV broadcast, so it's hard to say.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 26 December 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Oddly, despite making a big deal of the typo I didn't even register what it would actually mean.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 26 December 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, i have such a crush of shame on this album tbh (if it wasnt already obvious to everyone)
couldnt resist pulling its pigtails again
― r|t|c, Sunday, 26 December 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
interested in xgau's dislike for this he touched on in his essay
did he ever review it
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
he said what a lot of ppl in this thread said
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
this ended up being my record of 2010 fwiw
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link