they are both quite chill
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, but now i'm thinking one's more chill "chill" and the other's more chill "yacht."
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
one is more chill "laptop screen" the other is more chill "yacht"
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
chillin in the blue monitor light and cooling fan hum
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
label sampler by israeli label ak duck "3 years of"
i have this, don't remember where it came from and haven't listened to it. now i will!
― suggest bandt (electricsound), Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:31 AM (10 hours ago)
i think these guys were digging on ariel pink really early on, its kind of an alternate history of chillwave idk ymmv
― plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I've often confused Chillwave with Balearic as well except that chillwave is usually more lo fi and druggier sounding.
I still get confused as to what Delorean is classified as because they've always struck me more as Balearic than Chillwave.
And people like Dam-Funk and Onra aren't considered Chillwave, are they?
― MarkoP, Sunday, 22 August 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
~sad man on him beach~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqQLbWS4CQo
― yentl giant (corey), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link
wrong thread?
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
"i associate "chillwave" with "balearic." is that totally off-base?"
im glad someone brought this up. they share a very similar dna. hazy dreamy music that is made for comedowns or chilling out.the ocean is a prominent metaphor that drives both genres. they also both share a love of nostalgia. "smooth" sounds are also operative for both genres. the only difference is that balearic is meant for dancing at 4 am as you are coming down, chillwave doesnt seem to have much dancing in the cards.altho conceivably one can dance to washed out. i think thats where the difference lies, one genres is driven to dancers, while the others is geared towards rockers, but sonically i hear tons of overlap.
― oscar, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
am considering getting into sun araw on the basis of this on patrol thing which is excellent. it is exactly what i think chillwave is supposed to be about, ideally (or was supposed to be about, back when it was pure and before hipsters came and ruined it). anyway, i understand from this thread that the categorization of sun araw as chillwave is somehow controversial and part of a contested zone. so am i out of step with consensus in thinking that sun araw is totally chillwave? or how do i get into other stuff that is like this, if maybe there is a thread for that instead?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
to think that this music has anything to do w/people that aren't hipsters is just crazy talk
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, have you even seen what sun araw looks like?!
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/22960365/Sun+Araw+CASIOSUN.jpg
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
no hipsters they are the enemy of all that is pure and true. have you not heard?
guy on left is a train engineer (clearly) and woman has temple of the spirit concerns in mind. hipsters care only about the ways that cocaine can be hidden in shoes.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link
xposts no
― yentl giant (corey), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I am sure someone will tell me I'm doing it wrong but I'm going to pretend chillwave = slightly sad slightly repetitive basic-timbre synth music.
― yentl giant (corey), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
but it does make me think of those microphones records (i may be the only person alive wholl still cop to liking those...)
I still dig them a bunch, not so much the Mt. Eerie material. Wouldn't call "The Moon" chillwave though.
― Z S, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i think of chillwave as spreading out from those sad repetitive vibes to include all the stuff that would sound good on the same playlist and also that those vibes issue forth from. like obviously some anco and black dice, but lots of guitar stuff too because ducktails come on essential to my comprehension. sad, evocative, nostalgic, basic, blurry, homemade, hissy, repetitive, washed out, beachy, summery, chill. not necessarily synths tho. it's not about being narrow.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Wouldn't call "The Moon" chillwave though.
i linked it because i think it fits really well into this idea of proto-chillwave i have - mb not sonically although the intro is p close - particularly the way he portrays nature/the ocean as both isolating & freeing ("the roar of waves, the pounding surf, two bodies on the earth/ it was intense just getting to be there next to you") + the yearning for escape into the past ("i drove up to the city at night and found the place where you grew up") and the wilderness ("i finally felt like I was breathing free").
also i mean a song about love + chilling on a roof & watching the moon + death?
lol
― Lamp, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i think thats where the difference lies, one genres is driven to dancers, while the others is geared towards rockers, but sonically i hear tons of overlap.
imm 'chillwave' is kinda hard to define 'sonically' since its a little all over the map although repetition + distortion + synths + space are all important. what makes chillwave stuff different from balearic is the pronounced melancholy streak that chillwave has it wears it anxieties a lot more openly
n e way heres a vid about what chillwave means to me:
http://vimeo.com/12381217
― Lamp, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Plaxico is the John Peel of chillwave.
― Veðrafjǫrðr heimamaður (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 07:41 (thirteen years ago) link
totally feeling these layered/screwed audio/visual experiments
http://muzak.arawa.fm/wordpress/wordpress/?p=1457
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah those were nice. I especially liked "don't ask me" and "save a prayer"
― van smack, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
damn, if me and my bros had owned recording equipment throughout undergrad we would've been a chillwave band :( regrets...
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 25 August 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCQOluwl5aA
proto-chillwave?
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 25 August 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgWNWZQhgo
― Lamp, Friday, 27 August 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
so i'm slowly working my way through sun araw, have not yet heard any of the magic lantern stuff, but HOLY SHIT heavy deeds is incredible. this and on patrol = some of the best and most immediately enjoyable psychedelic guitar music i've heard in ages, up there with back dice, oneida and grouper for quality 21st century production of stretchy head tones.
does previous sun araw come anywhere close to this level of effortless free-form drip & drool?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Most things with the label attached don't grab me at all, but I really love this ditty I came across yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0gh1oLOpGU
Is this conceivably chillwave? I may have to reassess all the pointers I've pointedly ignored over the past year...
― No one can penetrate me. (Sanpaku), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Heavy Deeds is probably my favorite of his. A total monster. You should try to find a copy of Beach Head asap.
― van smack, Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
have not yet heard any of the magic lantern stuff
you need to get on that too - have it
― van smack, Thursday, 2 September 2010 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Proto-chillwave:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=leonard+cohen+democracy&aq=f
― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 September 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah how to dress well are also great, i <3 that video for decisions
i've had this how-to-dress-well disc on almost constant repeat for a few days now. i had zero interest in it, then -- totally on a whim -- downloaded it and was blown-away. it sounds nothing like my image of "chillwave," though. it sounds like HTDW are doing for late-80s r&b what burial did for late 90s/early 00 uk electronic dance genres.
give me "ghostly-reimaginations" of almost any genre; ghostly grunge; ghostly teenpop; ghostly hair metal.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 25 September 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
http://chillwitchnamemagic.com/
― Neil S, Monday, 27 September 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
hipster neil young jumping the bandwagon
Featuring eight simplistic “state of the world” songs performed alone by Young on his untamed guitar, Le Noise has been fashioned (via producer Daniel Lanois) into a chillwave record
― who's got the (platform) 9 3/4ths? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 October 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
five chillwave classics ive been thinking about lately:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIfgITYzuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Gxy7idkXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-57mBUi7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_WBAlp69bU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzLPV18ZxiU
― swagula (Lamp), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i was at noise show a couple of weaks ago and there was a band that had a dude playing a nintendo ds korg synth over some feedback, a disco loop and a minor threat record.
it wasnt v chill but i made me glad to be alive
― swagula (Lamp), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS513FRfbwE
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
lamp those chillwave things u posted are pretty aggro is this a seasonal thing or are u detecting an aesthetic wind change?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
also u know where i am likely to see some of this stuff in bkln?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
tagged my music on bandcamp as chillwave as a joke and got some ridiculous amount of hits from it
― Sniiiiip! (electricsound), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i guess i didnt think of them as all that 'aggro'? probably is a thing tho - slightly harder/dirtier/meaner sounds seem prevelant in new-ish 'yung kids make cheap music 4 themselves & their friends' genre musixxx.
ive been obsessed w/ C V L T S lately - dude has a tape thats sold out (black hole, hi 5) but u can hear a bunch of it on his myspace: http://www.myspace.com/cvlts
cant think of any place that does reg chillwave nites i mostly just went to shows in bklyn? mb like brookyln bowl? loll
― Lamp, Thursday, 4 November 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG I want someone to do a regular chillwave night.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGnLga7U2FI&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeTiWlITVcY&feature=related
have you heard this record plax? i think its too 'clean' and 'upbeat' to really be chillwave but its sort of beautiful in its empty sincerity
it weirdly makes it clear how hard it is to feel things
― .gif of the magi (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVK-rUDru_k&feature=related
feel like this is a better way of doing an 'upbeat' and 'ethereal' chillwave lost summer track
― .gif of the magi (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i literally have not heard any new music since i last posted on this thread, but that active child track u posted came on my ipod today and it was kindof overwhelming
― plax (ico), Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link
its kindof a perfect time for me to hear this stuff. i mean, being a tourist and the nostalgia that for a tourist seems to glaze everything. like u absorb everything as an img that repeats the imgu already had in ur head. idk its late.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link
nyc is (paradoxically) a p great place to listen to chillwave i think bcuz so often things feel sped up or out of focus or incessantly now. if you get a chance try listening to 'minutes to silence' again...
i will maintain that what makes chillwave really interesting is how ultimately anxious it is
― .gif of the magi (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link
its really abt how u wasted ur youth
― plax (ico), Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link
if a little dreaming is dangerous, the cure for it is not to dream less but to dream more, to dream all the time
― ┌▪┌▫┌▪┌▫ EXIT ▪┐▫┐▫┐ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link
you can watch the bottom fall out of a life, a scene, a city, anything and it only takes a second. you sense that it has happened before it actually has and whatever force held now spirals outward and inward at the same time impossible fast, consuming itself and everything around it
― ┌▪┌▫┌▪┌▫ EXIT ▪┐▫┐▫┐ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a magical world, hobbes. let's start exploring