"If only more strippers voted." - the Hard Rock and Hair Metal tracks poll nominations thread (not a current poll - just random hair metal chat)

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Matt, you can have mine.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 22 August 2010 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Quiet Riot - Love's a Bitch
Ozzy Osbourne - Bark at the Moon

Nate Carson, Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link

See, the thing is, I prefer Thin Lizzy to pretty much every other band on this thread. What I'm saying is it's totally revisionist to put them on any list that also includes Cinderella and Ratt. If the shit wasn't on Dial MTV, wasn't from LA, and wasn't played at every redneck senior prom from 82-90, it probably doesn't belong here.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

For proto hair-metal purposes ...

UFO - Doctor Doctor
UFO - Only You Can Rock Me
UFO - Lonely Heart

Also some pre-Slippery JBJ
Bon Jovi - Runaway

ithappens, Sunday, 22 August 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I'm against the 'proto' thing here. Doesn't make a lot of sense. You could argue that Sabbath was an influence on these guys, but so was fuckin' Springsteen and Southside Johnny. Where does it end?

Anyway, has anyone nominated "Don't Close Your Eyes" by Kix?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 22 August 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I take your point, and had originally thought of limiting the requirements to "Dial MTV, LA, etc" like you suggest, but if you exclude "proto hair-metal", do you exclude KISS, AC/DC, etc.? Those were some of the groups who weren't getting enough attention in the other poll because they didn't fit the mass definition of metal. I mean, the "If only more strippers voted" joke was in response to You Shook Me All Night Long not making it.

Now, I know there are problems because not every Thin Lizzy song could be called hair metal. Perhaps I'm a little prejudiced because my introduction to Thin Lizzy was through Bon Jovi's cover on "Stairway to Heaven, Highway to Hell." Anyone else have any thoughts?

meat by mistake (kkvgz), Sunday, 22 August 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I learned about Thin Lizzy in the first place by reading mags like Circus and Hit Parader in the '80s, when hair metal bands would talk about them with reverence. They don't fall in the Sunset Strip category for sure, but thankfully it's a HARD ROCK and Hair Metal poll.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 August 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that stripper compatibility is the deal-breaker here. Could you imagine a stripper gyrating to, say, Immigrant Song? Just about. Stairway To heaven? No. So, one counts and the other doesn't (ballads are I different matter I admit). There were plenty of bands on the previous poll who had a few songs that fitted the remit even if they weren't generally metal / hard rock bands, so the same can apply here in my opinion. Also, this :

By performers wearing makeup/hairspray/spandex/leather/gypsy scarves and jewelry

which excludes CCR, Springsteen etc but allows for Thin Lizzy, AC/DC (just) and the rest.

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Sunday, 22 August 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, Phil Mogg's nephew was in The Quireboys so UFO are in just on that.

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Sunday, 22 August 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

gypsy scarves and jewelry

which excludes CCR, Springsteen etc

http://images.radcity.net/6718/3317440.jpg

: )

meat by mistake (kkvgz), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Phil Mogg was happy to wear a white jacket with spandex trousers. That's surely a hair metal combo.
UFO were hair metal before it was defined - much more than Lizzy, because they had none of the taste for epicry that Lynott had.

ithappens, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Ozzy Osbourne / Lita Ford - Close My Eyes Forever

Nate Carson, Sunday, 22 August 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Joan Jett - I Love Rock n'Roll
um, Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer?

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Sunday, 22 August 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Before chuck does it.
And it pains me to nominate celtic frost in this, but they did go full on hair metal, so wtf not.

Celtic Frost - Cherry Orchards

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 22 August 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's to hoping they receive zero votes.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 August 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Just watched the video in the other thread. So terrible.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 August 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

http://spendingloudnight.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/celtic-frost-cover-2web.jpg?w=600

It wont get any from Celtic Frost fans. Any votes it gets will be for the lols.

1st heard it in like 1992, saw it on Raw Power. It put me off checking their older records for a couple of years. By good luck i knew someone who had them and recorded them for me .

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 22 August 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ah, the timeless acid-washed jeans, oily bare chest w/ red suspenders look

Sun Tea (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 August 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Britney Fox - Girlschool
Britney Fox - Long Way to Love
Bulletboys - Smooth Up in Ya
Circus of Power - Machine
The Cult - Fire Woman
The Cult - She Sells Sanctuary
Dangerous Toys - Teas'n Pleas'n
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Enuff Z'Nuff - Fly High Michelle
Enuff Z-Nuff - New Thing
Gene Loves Jezebel - Jealous
Gorky Park - Bang
Great White - Once Bitten, Twice Shy
Joan Jett - I Hate Myself for Loving You
LA Guns - Never Enough
LA Guns - One More Reason
LA Guns - Sex Action
Lizzy Borden - Me Against the World
Ratt - Way Cool Jr.
Stryper - To Hell with the Devil
Ugly Kid Joe - Everything About You
Vixen - Edge of a Broken Heart
White Lion - Wait
Winger - Madalaine
Y Kant Tori Read - Cool on Your Island
Y Kant Tori Read - The Big Picture

Sun Tea (Pillbox), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Queensrÿche - Empire
Queensrÿche - Eyes of a Stranger
Queensrÿche - Jet City Woman
Iggy Pop - Cold Metal

Sun Tea (Pillbox), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

LA Guns - Ballad Of Jayne

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Dudes, there is probably no fucking way I can do this poll. I got a lot of shit going down both at work and at home - I just won't have time in the near future to keep bumping this thread and getting people's emails and tabulating results and shit. If someone else wants to take over, that's cool. If not, we at least have a pretty decent list of awesome songs. Sorry, y'all.

lavender hotel kumquat (kkvgz), Monday, 30 August 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Aerosmith – What It Takes
Billy Squier – Lonely Is The Night
Billy Squier – In The Dark
Dio – Holy Diver
Dio – Rainbow In The Dark
Dio – The Last In Line
Lou Gramm – Midnight Blue
The Darkness – I Believe In A Thing Called Love
Rush – Tom Sawyer
Rush – Freewill
Rush – Limelight
Rush – Spirit of Radio
Sammy Hagar – Three Lock Box
Sammy Hagar – I Can’t Drive 55
Twisted Sister – We’re Not Gonna Take It

kornrulez6969, Monday, 30 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Fine with me. I'm not permanently burned out on polls, but I'm definitely still recovering from the several we all had back-to-back-to-back.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 August 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Bon Jovi-You Give Love A Bad Name
Bon Jovi-Born To Be My Baby

micheline, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I love how you guys ignore kkvgz and just keep posting nominations. One of you could surely volunteer to take over.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

johnny has an excuse, he ran one recently

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm pretty busy myself right now.

Mr. John "Manalishi" Abbott (Viceroy), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah dudes, sorry. It's just the only time I can foresee myself ilxing in the near future is from my phone on the bus to and from work, which just isnt optimal conditions to run a poll under.

landover menace (kkvgz), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I was looking forward to this.

Moka, Friday, 22 October 2010 07:49 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Yeah, this poll looked/looks awesome. If it does fall back in the queue of ballot polls, I propose lopping off anything that charts in balls's 70s ROCK tracks - should help separate the stripper-hair-party stuff a little I think. Also, would like to add:

Def Leppard - Let's Get Rocked

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

Might not be a good idea if he's doing a top 666. That's a lot of disqualifications!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, but still, I mean there is no way "Dream On" for example needs to be in this poll in the first place, let alone if it's already been in the "70s hard rock and punk that balls didn't feel like deleting from the noms" poll.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

its the poll runners choice.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

i think the # of shared tracks will be relatively small and those tracks will be mostly so great that it would be silly to exclude them

some dude, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

did strippers strip to it? I'm guessing that will be his criteria.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

Vain - No Respect

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

jeez, nevermind guys, it was just a suggestion to keep there from being two polls with really similar results. Although I guess by the time this one comes around, the balls poll will be a few years past.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah by the time it has happened people will have forgotten about the 70s rock tracks poll

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

and the time will be ripe for me to re-poll REM in an open-nomination format!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ AG being all "yup, it'll be a while since you guys will be waiting your turn in accordance with rules that clearly don't apply to me"

some dude, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

nice try

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

why should rules he or others had no input in implementing in the first place apply to him or anyone else?

balls, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

not in the strip club, guys.

how's life, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah keep the thread for what it is

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

it wasn't a "try" at anything, i know nothing i can say would ever have any effect on the Pollgerian Steamroller, but sure i'll keep it off this thread

some dude, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

i'm trying to think of any repeated behavior on ilx as pathetic as some dude's 'my heavens! a poll!' on nearly every damn poll on this board. does it ever occur to you that if you and yr dork bros hadn't spent so many years slowly killing every kind of ilm thread you do enjoy (ie 'let's sift thru what remains of dead genres like hip-hop and alt-rock') that you might get more out of the eighteen hours a day you spend on ilx? why the fuck should ag care that you hate him and his threads? and why do the mods tolerate a poster stalking and repeatedly harrassing another poster for no reason like this? good to know you'll keep it off 'this thread' though, maybe try to keep it off this board while you're at it. don't you have kids for fucks sake?

balls, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

Not really seeing the "stalking" personally, and right now balls you seem way more heated up than some dude. But I am one of the "dork bros" who loves all the alt-rock threads so YMMV may vary. I do personally think that since there DOES exist the "order and timing" thread then running other ballot polls in parallel, while not really a violation of any particular rule or principle, does seem kinda annoying, like the collective generally is on board with the "order and timing" system to avoid there being eighty polls at once. I don't mind it once in a while for a big cross-artist, "genre" type poll, personally - that's not too much for me to keep up with. But I get the idea of wanting to rein it in a little and I don't think that makes somebody "pathetic."

Doctor Casino, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

"YMMV may vary"? okay, def time to get out of the house and face the hurricane

Doctor Casino, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

how's life asked not to do this in this thread so w/e i'm good

some dude, Monday, 29 October 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link


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