I am feeling very cynical about Cee-Lo's new album

yeah i mean tbf i know ill be supertired of this shit w/in the week -- i just think its worth observing that as far as you can craft these things, its immediately understandable why this is doing so well

honestly would be surprised if this was a hit, but we'll see

seriously??

i mean i dont know to what degree the profanity will be an issue, but thats p much the only thing stopping this from being bigger than crazy

you realize that "crazy" was #2 in the country right?

yes

i agree, i don't see this being a hit. i REALLY like this song but i'm also a little surprised at the "universal" or w/e critical appreciation it is supposedly getting, but that's probably b/c i'm not paying attn

there's plenty of things going against this -- it's not 2003 anymore where shit like "crazy in love" & "the way you move" are all in the radio. the radio -- espn mainstream pop radio -- sounds a whole hell of a lot different now then it did then, and to say that "fuck you" would sound remarkably out of place would be in understatement -- second of all, 'cee-lo green' has never had a solo hit & his name carries no recognition with relevant pop audiences. it might be able to get radio play on r&b stations and could chart on the hot 100 too, but unabsahedly retro shit like robin thicke's "magic" or fucking maxwell whose new shit was HUUUGE on r&b stations barely scraped into the top 40 if at all

so while agree that it's been ALL OVER the internet in a weird & notable way, i don't think that it's gonna be the #1 song in the country in the year 2010

and if it becomes a hit it is not going to be bigger than a single that was #2 for seven weeks

if MIA couldn't sniff the cart with "xxxo" after "paper planes", i'm not sure cee-lo has much hope, even in a post-"crazy" world

ha, the chart

ahaha sniff the cart is a keeper

if bruno mars was singing the hook, i'd hear you tho

I think u guys are forgetting Eamon

i don't think this would make huge waves on the r&b format, even.

lmao @ bruno mars

i mean i dont know to what degree the profanity will be an issue, but thats p much the only thing stopping this from being bigger than crazy

The profanity is one of the biggest things the song has going for it. The same people who got a kick out of "Get Rage Against the Machine to be Christmas #1," will want to have this dominate the charts.

this song is an abomination, but the speed in which it has become popular is encouraging for us promoters of collective action. we are working on a similar song with a subversive message encoded.

the key to this song making a big splash on the pop charts is how soon it's going to be released to itunes et al -- striking while the viral-video iron was hot would be the smart move in this case, since so much of whether or not songs vault up the chart these days hinges on huge first weeks at retail outlets.

j0rdan you're nuts. everyone who liked 'gnarles barkley' is going to recognize 'hey that black dude from gnarls barkley' if they dont just straight up believe its a gnarls barkley song.

and stop comparing this to fukkin robin thicke & maxwell. like, seriously?? you think thats who pop audiences are gonna compare this to?

how is maxwell 'retro soul' for that matter, either? is anything that doesnt sound like ciara or the-dream 'retro' to u??

if anything the-dream's prince aping is as much 'retro' as maxwell's record was

i mean, maybe they fuck up the release along the lines of what maura's talking about, but thats the only way i dont see this at minimum going top 10 never mind top 40

it's not 2003 anymore where shit like "crazy in love" & "the way you move" are all in the radio. the radio -- espn mainstream pop radio -- sounds a whole hell of a lot different now then it did then, and to say that "fuck you" would sound remarkably out of place would be in understatement

are you saying that f--k you would have had a better chance to be a monster hit in 2003 than in 2010? if so, why?

This is going to be the freshmen-orientation jam of 2010. Post-radio single.

the "rage against the machine 4 no. 1!!!" movement ended up being strong because the x-factor is such a behemoth that people naturally would feel inclined to try to topple. this song isn't going to become a smash just because it has the word "fuck" in the title (not used particularly subversively)... what is the goliath it's going up against, the 'general state of pop music'???

are you saying that f--k you would have had a better chance to be a monster hit in 2003 than in 2010? if so, why?

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:45 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

the climate of radio is different now

this could go big in the UK! doesn't necessarily mean jack about what's gonna happen in the US tho

okay, but why? is it, for instance, the growing fragmentation of the audience, so songs don't become "monster hits" as often? that explanation has some surface appeal/sounds plausible, but i'm just guessing.

deej, if you think that the listeners who have made superstars out of kesha, katy perry, jason derulo, bob, bruno mars, travis mccoy, jay sean, drake etc give a fuck about songs that came out 4 years ago, let alone the singer of a band that was a one hit wonder, then i'm not sure if you understand the way pop works right now

then cee-lo must bend them to their will. by force, if necessary.

that tune is a pretty good start.

i'm not even gonna respond to what you said about maxwell because what you said was retarded

okay, but why? is it, for instance, the growing fragmentation of the audience, so songs don't become "monster hits" as often? that explanation has some surface appeal/sounds plausible, but i'm just guessing.

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:58 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

i have no idea

haha. that's fair.

in any event, i think you're underestimating a key, and basic, factor: the song is very, very catchy and very, very good. and the naughty title, cleverly deployed throughout, helps.

but -- tbf -- whatthef--kdoiknowaboutthissubject? nothing, really.

we must take away this generation's carrot and make it feel the stick. true pleasure is in submission. and to submit to this song is a step in the right direction.

yikes!

in any event, i think you're underestimating a key, and basic, factor: the song is very, very catchy and very, very good.

i agree that it's catchy & good, but a. that's incredibly subjective b. it doesn't account at all for how pop works -- if every good and catchy song was a massive hit, radio would prob be a better place atm

true pleasure is in submission

would also make a good title for a big radio hit.

yeah, that's true, j0rdan.

analogously, every time i turn on commercial rock radio these days, i wonder if i'm just too old to hear what's good or if it's as bland and grim a collection of "popular rock songs" as i've ever heard.

thank you, we finally have a title for our propaganda song!

as for what maura said about itunes -- i agree & elektra would be smart to pony up for some prominent placement on the itunes front page, but if it doesn't catch on on radio -- and i don't think it really will -- itunes will only take it so far

the stakes are high indeed

like, this song was randomly huge on itunes for a week, it hit #40 on the hot 100 & then immediately sunk like a stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tt9V6ZgxDU

if every good and catchy song was a massive hit, radio would prob be a better place atm

i'm genuinely surprised to hear you say that, since i -- perhaps wrongly -- assumed you were a big fan of pop radio nowadays.

umm, no not really

I would love a paypal "office pool" where the cash goes to whoever can guess this song's chart position/weeks

banaka killin it itt

as for what maura said about itunes -- i agree & elektra would be smart to pony up for some prominent placement on the itunes front page, but if it doesn't catch on on radio -- and i don't think it really will -- itunes will only take it so far

― J0rdan S., Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the stakes are high indeed

― rage for the machine (banaka), Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:12 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cannot stop laughing at this