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Interesting stuff up on Femme and Richie - streaming video of Doogz from Maida Vale/Wiley's "What Do You Call It?" (haha)/Sticky and Wonder in the chart/PAUG with Wiley and Dizzee-"Watching You" - what is this? anyone?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 09:20 (twenty years ago) link

Doogz is great and everything but I am not really planning to sit through a half an hour of video of him in an empty studio.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago) link

But synthetic-apparel-fuelled breakdancing isn't enough for this generation. Oh no, they want grime. These days the average teen is busy "throwing up gun-finger", risking life and limb to dangle a coat-hanger from the 38th story of a council block in Hackney (something to do with pirate radio) or attending raves where people enthusiastically fire bullets into the ceiling - but only if a tune is particularly "nang". Which means good. Apparently.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 24 January 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

I just read that. It's a rubbish article. ("surprisingly enough" haha)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 24 January 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

No, it's funny. A somewhat clued-in older person (i.e. over 22) not trying to pretend she's part of it. I can relate, to a certain extent. Unless she is actually taking the piss.

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

so am i the only person still getting last week's femme fatale show (starting with 'battle'), then? i want to hear 'bastard'!

'what do you call it?' is a shit vocal version of ice rink then. that's pretty disappointing.

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmm, that's weird Toby. Sounds like Tim was having some of the same problems. I haven't got to "Bastard" yet...

Whether black, white, Asian or other, all one needs is to be "from road" (have street-cred), not be too old and have "skills".

haha!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

Shystie has N.O.R.E. on her album?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link

any chance of you ripping 'bastard' if you notice it?!

in dl-ing news, i'm halfway through getting more excellent ruff squad sets. finger crossed i'll identify the tune i fell in love with on dec 29th and can't remember anything about...

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

oh and lord of the decks 2 tracklist:
1.INTRO
2.DURRTY DOOGZ: CANT HOLD ME DOWN
3.ESCO: FREESTYLE
4.D.DOUBLE: FRONTLINE
5.CRAZY TITCH: FREESTYLE XCLUSIVE
6.WILEY: PICK YA SELF UP
7.SHARK MAJOR: FREESTYLE
8.DURRTY DOOGZ: GANSTER XCLUSIVE
9.N.A.S.T.Y FEAT CRAZY TITCH: COCK BACK
10.KANO: FREESTYLE XCLUSIVE
11.TINCHIE STRYDA: FREESTYLE XCLUSIVE
12.DANCEHALL MAFIA: MIND WORKS XCLUSIVE
13.ESSENTIALS: LAST NIGHT
14.WILEY: BASTARD
15.FOOTSIE: RIGHT HOOKS XCLUSIVE
16.EARS: FREESTYLE XCLUSIVE
17.DANCEHALL MAFIA: THUGGIN IT OUT XCLUSIVE
18.KANO: TRUE G XCLUSIVE
19.STORMIN FEAT SHARK MAJOR: GETTO XCLUSIVE
20.D.M: BRONX TALE XCLUSIVE
21.G-FORCE: U CANT RELATE XCLUSIVE
22.LETHAL B: ROLLING WID DA FIRE
23.D.M TRIGG & MYTH: DEFEAT US NEVER XCLUSIVE
24.HYPER & D.DOUBLE: LYRICAL COMBAT XCLUSIVE
25.D.DOUBLE & B.T: FREESTYLE XCLUSIVE
26.KANO,TRIGG & MYTH: BLAST U NIGGAS XCLUSIVE
27.DIZZEE RASCAL: UNRELEASED
28.OUTRO

doesn't look all that exciting to me. anyone know what's on the dvd? anyone heard it, come to that?

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

any chance of you ripping 'bastard' if you notice it?

Every chance!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

i hope lotd 2 is mixed a bit better than the first one...it sounds like they were making pause-button tape edits in their bedroom.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 January 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

ooh that dice recordings lp clip on independance sounds seriously hot! the 5th one after the grimette sounds ill... this could be one for your pazz and jop 04 ballots kids!

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.independance-records.co.uk/dicerecordinglifeadicevol1.wma

think you're a big boy cos u stroke your beard / pazz and jop ballots'll make your face look weird

(sorry)

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

haha

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

thank you for that. now I might have to start going to record shops other than improv and jazz ones.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

don't do it julio, it's a trap!!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

next thing you know you'll be wondering where ten years of yr life went

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

haha no chance of that.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

Julio don't forget to put your southeast london face on when you go to these record shops. You know, the one you used to walk through Woolwich at 1am after that improv gig in Hackney.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

will do.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 January 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

a cookie for anyone who can point me to a full version of bigga man & ears doing "player"

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 26 January 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

(ie. NOT from the jammer mix)

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 26 January 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

lotd 2 is pretty hot, actually, isn't it?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 29 January 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

particularly doogz "can't hold me down". but "bronx tale" is straight up hip-hop pastiche in the worst possible way, from the title on down.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 29 January 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

*salivates*

plz tell me someone is sharing it.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 29 January 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, I looked into ordering it and getting it delivered to my parents house then over here but...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 29 January 2004 03:08 (twenty years ago) link

Haha! Ummm, never mind.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 29 January 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, be worth buying that, i will
and watch out for 'box bloody fresh' too. it's going to have that nasty session from deja i was banging on about, live on the dvd. that should be funny. ghetto ('skiny nigga no muscle' NASTY)
clashes and embaresses
napper ('6 foot 5 tower' '14 stones, capable of breaking bones' east co)

― '''''''', Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:17 (twenty years ago) link

do you mean the nasty session from monday luke?

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:19 (twenty years ago) link

the young man standing one i mean?

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:20 (twenty years ago) link

that is what i mean. excited?

― ''''''', Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

i have to say that on first listen i'm not feeling this set as much as you do. it's definitely good though.

(slsk crew you can get it off me, lurking in 'my music'...)

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

actually it's going to make a mental dvd.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

@d@m i am getting LOTD2 delivered to spain! surely it can make it to the states?!

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 29 January 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

i'm still cross about that guardian article...

― martin (martin), Thursday, 29 January 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

@d@m i am getting LOTD2 delivered to spain! surely it can make it to the states?!

Yes, I'm gonna try. I can get Deuce out here now! Are Cage selling LOTD again?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

c'mon, the Young Man Standing Deja set is absolutely FIRING! Best moments so far..: Ghetto clashing Napper (obviously), and this from J.ME -
"When I started the game, picked up a cue, every five minutes, get two shots, never get caught with a white in the pocket get ridda the eight-ball in double shots / I cut the eight-ball by i, cos in maths, I weren’t a fool, big guys understand what I shot but dickheads think I’m talkin’ bout pool / From day one I said I was serious, but nobody took me serious, with them boy I go to the raves, spit in the raves and I spit in their face with a disrespect cos I am serious / WHEN I KNOW I AM SERIOUS / J.ME don’t take no shit boy that don’t like J.ME listen up”

― tinman, Friday, 30 January 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

"new kylie uh i mean wiley"...haha oh doogz you big goofball

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 January 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago) link

"IT'S REEEEEAL!! THEY DON'T KNOW!"

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 January 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

yeah that j.me lyrics is ill, he's coming on in leaps and bounds. keep hearing kids saying
SERIOUS
a lot so he's got a little buzz on street too

'but who did you really kidnap napper?'

― '''''luke, Saturday, 31 January 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

kids saying
SERIOUS

Excellent.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 31 January 2004 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

so whats the overall verdicty on LOTD2?both comps are fairly variable i guess. there is some good stuff on the new one though. 'Can't hold me down', the Dizzee freestyle (is that the streetfighter riddim underneath?), the Essentials tune is good, I'm geting into the Storming and Shark Major one after reading spizzazzz, but theres a lot of crap on there. like, unfortunately, the kano tunes. what happened to him? that ´'true g' and 'blast you niggas' are a bit lame.

and i'm sick of D double! still dont get the love felt for him by everybody. fuck that 'make yr face look weird" rhyme. that seems to crop up about 10 times on the cd.

whats the dvd like? i will have to wait 6 months before i get to watch that...screw that.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

lotd2 is good. probably the cd i've listened to most in the last couple weeks. the stormin/shark major track is really good, but the DM track ("bronx tale") is fucking awful. whatever the future of "grime" is, let's not have it be turning into fucking brit-rap, okay? (and that dizzee freestyle is from like 2002 isn't it? let's. push. things. forward.) "can't hold me down" is probably the best overall track, certainly the most "polished"...fuck it, though, it's the hotness.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

I've only played it once so far but I didn't mind "Bronx Tale", not just because I like brit-hop but also because it feels like a lookback thing not a 'future' thing, coming just after "Ghetto", it's a nod back to an older kind of music. The other thing that really jumped out at me was the Lethal B one, it made me laugh and I wasn't expecting a sex rhyme so it surprised me too.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

anyone see the grime primer in the new rolling stone?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

all the tunes are old so don't bother get no one to dub it for you, lots of great stuff but you've heard it before. it's all about the dvd. you need to see the dvd, dti video is jokes, crazy titch is magnetic, ruff squad keep doing flying kicks, wiley's good value, d.e.e's got a big motorbike so on and so forth. it's not exactly expensive.

― luke''', Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

anyone see the grime primer in the new rolling stone?

That's "grimy," pal, not grime.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

the sharky and stormin track is too slow, when they do those lyrics over other beats they sound much better. the kano freestyle is big.
jess is overreacting to bronx tale, its quite nice and i LOVE dm, great voice. the track with kano('been around since master system'), trigg and myth is great, haven't actually heard that one before.

― luke'''', Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

and the dizzee track was getting a lot of play well before the album dropped, well, before i luv u dropped as it goes, should have been on the album, much better than the vast majority of tunes on boy in the corner.
fuck ambrose is total nutbag sick in the head- 'blast you' is total classic

― luke''', Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

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