...and?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 September 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link
And I'm really digging it. I need to give it more listens, but the initial one went down well. For some reason, and obviously there are a ton of differences, the album was giving me some Geogaddi vibes. They don't sound alike, but I could see both records being good companion pieces. I mean, if nothing else, they both share that haunted, creeped-out groove thing. I dunnnno.
― SourPatchCorpse, Thursday, 2 September 2010 07:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I need to listen again. At first I was blown away, second I was unerwhelmed and assumed it was a matter of diminishing returns. Geogaddi vs 30 Second Wipeout it is.
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link
60 second wipeout, i mean
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah tbh - my enthusiasm for this whole genre has waned pretty quickly. once you get used to the sound, the whole things seems pretty repetitive and devoid of song/hook/imagination.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link
responding to the question "worst rapp you’ve ever heard?", Noz links to Salem, "Tent" Live at the Levi's/FADER Fort
http://tumblinerb.com/post/1116858284/21-questions
― markers, Thursday, 16 September 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Worse than baadero's comment is hearing the actual tools' footprint put out there completely nude, e.g. that new Korallreven mix, a load of paul's extreme sound stretch chaff. Nitzer Ebb tribute band forms to the left.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 16 September 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
The NY Times highlighted them in their fall arts preview this past Sunday--
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/arts/music/12ratliff.html
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 September 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
never heard of this band before, but the title track from their new disc is massive.
i read, in some article, that this and similar stuff is called "witch house" or "drag"? not really sure it makes sense as a genre, but whatevs.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, those are two of the genre tags thrown about for Salem
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
"Asia"
― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Asia
― Salem, Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:55 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
gonna head down to Salem, MA for Halloween dressed as the rapping dude from Salem and just walk up to people quoting from the Fader Fort performance
― markers, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2010/09/midnight-mass-bewitching-midwest
Salem embodies a generation that doesn't care about race, sexual orientation, authenticity, and a lot of other stuff that used to be a big deal.
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
or, "being white is awesome?"
― maura, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I realize I'm supposed to hate these douchebags more with every interview I read with them, but, inexplicably, the opposite has occurred. In this irreverent, revisionist sorta way, they remind me of Crystal Castles, but less, umm, calculated, somehow. Authenticty? I think they're authentically stupid and tragic.
Love this band.
But, you know, I bought the last ARE Weapons album and, if there's another one, I'll buy that too, so, you know, grain of salt.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
comparing these guys to juggalos is an insult to juggalos
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
also i think it's okay to love children for being authentically stupid
idk about adults that make "dream-crunk"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
have a feeling this record's gonna be really good
― markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
not trolling, either -- plan on getting it
― markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
hey fyi fuck all of you i love this
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, 23 September 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Fader Fort performance is all time lols for me, but this is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weDQIkGhEkY
― markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
This album is fucking phenomenal. You don't have to hang out with them or dress like them remember.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't read or seen anything about this band except this thread. Great album!
― The Bartered Bride (Ówen P.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Authenticty? I think they're authentically stupid and tragic.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I know them personally, and they are absolutely 100% authentic. It's actually a great word for them. They have personalities that, on first impression, one assumes must be acts. Trust me, they're not.
― Indexed, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
That's just it. They remind me of Girls, in that, I feel like the 'realness' is palpable, just as palpable as when you see a band with an overt LACK of authenticity (like a hundred thousand college age dudes aping Animal Collective ad nauseum, etc), it's striking if you know anything about underground music at all.
This would all be meaningless if the music was terrible. Yeah, they're fucked up junkie screwballs, throw a dart, amirite? But as many have also said upthread, this band is doing something special. They may not be meaning to, but I don't care. I love that there are already scores of imitators, and there's even that Witch Haus blog, and all these compilations of bands trying to jump on the Now That's What I Call Witch House bandwagon, and, true to form, Salem are nowhere to be found on any of these dumb comps. Totally cool.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Dash Snow Lives, VICE Magazine The Band, you're a sucker if you get into intentions. If they can afford (through acceptance of poverty or benefit of wealth) to ignore expectations, critics = no moves left.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm relieved to learn guys aren't acting like insufferable, entitled, talentless dipshits; but actually ARE authentic insufferable, entitled, talentless dipshits
― ^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
can't wait to see how this simplistic murky insular twaddle translates to a 4pm performance at Pitchfork Festival
― ^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
it's almost as if you're asking for the fader fort video to be posted again
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, this voice thing nails it but then still ultimately champions them?
Their sound isn't rooted in a codeine-laced desperation to escape the trap life, but they still betray a deep admiration for the culture; what they produce as a result binds eerie, menacing lyrics to soaring, triumphant vocals, almost parodying the more violent aspects of the sounds that influenced it. Nowhere is this more obvious than on "Trapdoor," which begins, "Nah, I ain't tryin-a look bad/My expectation has my mouth run dry/I see a bitch run/But I doubt she know why." It's a celebration of image over substance, a celebration of swag, the embodiment of distancing ourselves from the darker elements of the music we enjoy. It's the appeal of hip-hop, without the accountability; though obtuse, Salem appear to be sincere, at least, but still, without that accountability, there's the constant danger of lapsing into caricature.
you know who else did that? AL FUCKING JOLSON
― ^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Al Jolson, hip-hop scholar.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at
'tryin-a"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
OMFG listen to this shit LOOOOOOOOOOOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA13-Ykrob4
― ^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i love that hipsters laugh at Reh Dogg but find this transcendent, uplifting and emotionally stimulating
― ^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kr9qzslFpS1qzu5n3o1_500.jpg
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Worst song on record tbhI can't believe I feel inclined to defend this band in the face of this thread
― The Bartered Bride (Ówen P.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Like, so many great records out there have been made by talentless, insufferable dipshits who have bad press releases
― The Bartered Bride (Ówen P.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
it's almost as if you're asking for the fader fort video to be posted again― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:07 PM
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:07 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/14udeeh.jpg
― markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i hate when you post that photo cuz it looks like an ostensibly normal performance
w/ the video you get the part where he's doing 'rapper from texas' blackface
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ZetW6bQ7Q
― markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
haha god that never gets old
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
adore the intentional half-cough/half-laugh at the end
― markers, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
y'all down with shit
Do you love it, really? You love it? Well, I'm certainly no hipster, nor do I find this 'transcendent, uplifting and / or emotionally stimulating.' Who said they did? I don't find The Knife to be any of those things, either, but this record pushes the same buttons Silent Shout or even Burzum does. Do you dislike Silent Shout, Whiney? How bout Burzum?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't tell if these guys are worse than telepathe -- they come close i think
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm embracing the overt ridiculousness of this band, I guess.
i don't even like the knife but i think it's an insult to karen dreijer to compare her to some dude mumbling lazy raps & then screwing his voice
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
oh there's the al jolson
hadn't seen that vid
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link