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Has anybody heard the Tristano/Marsh/Konitz Mosaic box? I am totally unfamiliar with anything by Konitz outside of his playing on Birth Of The Cool, and it's been so long since I listened to that that I'd be hearing it totally afresh if I played it this evening.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
What a beautiful, beautiful man.

Saw him last night in two settings: a wonderful quartet with Baron, Gress and Frisell (holy shit Sundar!!! you are so right -- this guy might be the greatest living guitarist), and an awful duet with Paul Bley. Seriously: Paul Bley: FUCK YOU, you are an asshole. Fucking awful overplaying indulgent mofo. no wonder annette left your ass.

But man: KONITZ. What a tone. What an absolute TITAN of the alto.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

seriously dude, the more I think about it, it's like

1. Parker
2. Coleman
3 Konitz

EVERBOdY ELSE

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I really wanna hear that PSF solo disc he put out a few years back.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Joey Baron is totally goofy but very likeable.

The encore was Frisell/Konitz duet and quite frankly I could live the rest of my days inside the music made by the two of them together. Almost wish the whole program was just that duet...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Sonny Dallas's bass playing on "Motion" is the most underrated recorded performance by a jazz artist I know. His playing is sublime.
I'm listening to it right now. What else has this guy played on?

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 7 February 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Did John Hicks really post on this thread? Probably a different John Hicks.

I never did get a hold of any more records with Sonny Dallas on them. But one thing's for sure- he never drops the ball on Motion.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, it looks like Lee is playing at the Jazz Standard starting tomorrow.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

GO!!!!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link

surprised i never posted on this thread.

rec: lone-lee.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"...the more I think about it, it's like
1. Parker
2. Coleman
3 Konitz

EVERBOdY ELSE

-- Stormy Davis (electrifyingmoj...), January 29th, 2005."

You gotta go at least five deep: Johnny Hodges! Benny Carter!

Not Thaat Chuck, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
No Cannonball Adderley?

Anyway, I've been really enjoying Subconscious-Lee. I couldn't parse this stuff when I was in jazz school for some reason, and even kind of turned my nose up at it. I had a big black/white jazz musician complex back then so that might have been the problem.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd never really given Konitz much of a listen when I was younger, because I associated him with the more-conservative end of the Tristano school. But I heard some selections from the Milestone Duets recordings today for the first time, and was doubly floored — first by the playing, then second when the DJ announced that it was Konitz on alto.

mark 0 (mark 0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a big black/white jazz musician complex back then so that might have been the problem.

You're probably talking about "authenticity" issues, but [veering off topic here; I blame insomnia] race has been more a problem for listeners and promoters than for the actual musicians. I'll bet Benny Goodman took some flack for his integrated small groups in the 30's, and Charlie Parker would sometimes try to pass off Red Rodney as an albino during tours of the south a decade later.

The one example I can think of from a musician's standpoint is Charles Tyler quitting Albert Ayler's group over the impromptu hiring of Michel Samson one night in Cleveland, mentioned here.

mark 0 (mark 0), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

You're probably talking about "authenticity" issues

Right. It wasn't that I wouldn't listen to white musicians, but only white musicians I felt could "swing" properly. I thought the Tristano school was all about some esoteric academic approach (which it was in a way, I guess) and that somehow diminished it as jazz. But I'm talking about me in high school, maybe early in college, that's all.

race has been more a problem for listeners and promoters than for the actual musicians

I'd imagine it was more of a problem for some in the 60s, when you had the increasing prevalence of black political movements. I have also heard one or two white musicians gripe about some big name black bandleaders today supposedly favoring black musicians. It always sounded like sour grapes to me, so I never paid it much mind.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Search: "Satori," also with Solal.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I really dislike Satori, actually.

BTW, I just read that Tristano apparently didn't like strong drummers, which might be another reason I didn't initially respond to Tristano-school records.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

only thing I ever have is a bootleg of him playing on la monte young's 'map of 49's dream' with jon hassell, rosenboom & zazeela. it's great, I didn't know it was only the tip of the iceberg, I'll check this other stuff out.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 14 September 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Inside Hi-Fi is worth a mention here. It's a delightfully simple album that swings hard and with some gorgeous lyricism.

calzino, Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link


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