― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― grundymania, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― merritt ranew (merritt), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― modernaire, I wanna be, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 14 April 2005 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
"these puerto rican girls are just dyin' to meet you"
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Love at the Pier (Arthur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― lil Bobby Hutton (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― moley, Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frogman Henry, Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Indeed. I wonder if I could get away with my sig being god I hate black people. Let's try...
― god I hate people who are so desperate to prove a point, Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― harveyw (harveyw), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link
ninah cheery? do you mean neneh cherry? she really doesn't look anything like her. but then i did obsess over neneh and would stare for days on end at the raw like sushi cover. :-)
― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― moley, Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link
That's definitely not Simone Thomas.
I still think her name's Debbie. Not to be confused with Debbie Juvenile, who was one of the Bromley Contingent with Suzy (sic) and Spunker (as Severin was known in those days).
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Being British we're all routinely filled with so much self-loathing that you couldn't possibly hate us any more than we already hate ourselves, so it's just more water off a duck's back really.
If it helps 'though, sometimes I think I hate Septics even more than I hate my fellow Limeys.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Hey, DICK, I wasn't the one who had a problem with the word "boy."
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Christ Americans are such fuckjars, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
See, Grundymania isn't racist, just annoying in that post-graduate kind of way.
― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Often misquoted, this is an accurate transcription of the interview which went out live on 1 December 1976. The original Sex Pistols line-up are seated - from left to right - Johnny Rotten, Paul Cook, Steve Jones and Glen Matlock. Bill Grundy sits on their left. Standing behind the Pistols are the punk hangers-on from the Bromley Contingent, Siouxsie Sioux, Steve Severin, Simon Barker and 'Simone'.
Grundy introduces the band to the cameras. GRUNDY (To camera) They are punk rockers. The new craze, they tell me. Their heroes? Not the nice, clean Rolling Stones... you see they are as drunk as I am... they are clean by comparison. They're a group called The Sex Pistols, and I am surrounded by all of them...
JONES (Reading the autocue) In action!
GRUNDY Just let us see The Sex Pistols in action. Come on kids...
[Film of The Sex Pistols in action is shown; then back to Grundy.]
GRUNDY I am told that that group (hits his knee with sheaf of papers) have received forty thousand pounds from a record company. Doesn't that seem, er, to be slightly opposed to their anti-materialistic view of life?
MATLOCK No, the more the merrier.
GRUNDY Really?
MATLOCK Oh yeah.
GRUNDY Well tell me more then.
JONES We've fuckin' spent it, ain't we?
GRUNDY I don't know, have you?
MATLOCK Yeah, it's all gone.
JONES Down the boozer.
GRUNDY Really? Good Lord! Now I want to know one thing...
MATLOCK What?
GRUNDY Are you serious or are you just making me, trying to make me laugh?
MATLOCK No, it's all gone. Gone.
MATLOCK Yeah.
GRUNDY No, but I mean about what you're doing.
GRUNDY You are serious?
MATLOCK Mmm.
GRUNDY Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Brahms have all died...
ROTTEN They're all heroes of ours, ain't they?
GRUNDY Really... what? What were you saying, sir?
ROTTEN They're wonderful people.
GRUNDY Are they?
ROTTEN Oh yes! They really turn us on.
JONES But they're dead!
GRUNDY Well suppose they turn other people on?
ROTTEN (Under his breath) That's just their tough shit.
GRUNDY It's what?
ROTTEN Nothing. A rude word. Next question.
GRUNDY No, no, what was the rude word?
ROTTEN Shit.
GRUNDY Was it really? Good heavens, you frighten me to death.
ROTTEN Oh alright, Siegfried...
GRUNDY (Turning to those standing behind the band) What about you girls behind? MATLOCK He's like yer dad, inni, this geezer?
GRUNDY Are you, er...
MATLOCK Or your granddad.
GRUNDY (To Sioux) Are you worried, or are you just enjoying yourself?
SIOUX Enjoying myself.
GRUNDY Are you?
SIOUX Yeah.
GRUNDY Ah, that's what I thought you were doing.
SIOUX I always wanted to meet you.
GRUNDY Did you really?
GRUNDY We'll meet afterwards, shall we? (Sioux does a camp pout)
JONES You dirty sod. You dirty old man!
GRUNDY Well keep going, chief, keep going. Go on, you've got another five seconds. Say something outrageous.
JONES You dirty bastard!
GRUNDY Go on, again.
JONES You dirty fucker! (Laughter from the group)
GRUNDY What a clever boy!
JONES What a fucking rotter.
GRUNDY Well, that's it for tonight. The other rocker Eamonn, and I'm saying nothing else about him, will be back tomorrow. I'll be seeing you soon, I hope I'm not seeing you [the band] again. From me, though, goodnight. The cheesy signature tune plays and the credits roll. Rotten looks at his watch, Jones starts dancing to the music, and Grundy mutters an off-mic 'Oh shit!' to himself. The story made the front pages of the following morning's newspapers, amidst howls of outrage, including the now infamous Daily Mirror headline - 'THE FILTH AND THE FURY!'. The Pistols had cemented their place in television folklore.
― AMERICANBRITISH69SELFSUCK (eman), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), April 14th, 2005.
Alex you dumbass, I was excluding you from the other posters on this threads cos you DIDN'T get het up about the original question like some kneejerk crazy. But hey, thanx for calling me a DICK.
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd like to see you test this theory out in public.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Sorry, I read that as that I would get upset if he'd used the word "guy". Not sure why that upset me. Too much coffee. Apologies to you.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
True, but then in fairness, so do Steve Jones, Paul Cook and Glen Matlock - and even John Lydon's looking increasingly like Bill Grundy wearing a Sex Pistols wig lately.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
He's visibly drunk! Go rent The Filth and the Fury if you haven't, and watch the JFK-Zapruder-film-like breakdown of this monumental event...
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
"Go on, say something outrageous..."
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
You dirty fucker!
What a fuckin' rotter.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I hope I'm not seeing Mark Grout again.
From me though, goodnight.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link
As an American, I have never heard anyone use the word Paki
Don't forget Bush's use of the term:"We are working hard to convince both the Indians and the Pakis there’s a way to deal with their problems without going to war," Mr Bush said.
(nb. the first line of the article is great: "THE White House last night insisted that President George W Bush meant no disrespect to the Pakistani people by referring to them as 'Pakis'.")
― john'n'chicago, Friday, 15 April 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
True, but then in fairness,...
what? speak for yourselves, gramps!
yeah he's admits as much in his intro ("... you see they are as drunk as I am..."). is there a site w/ a clip of this? it's might be the best thing the pistols ever did : )
― Amon (eman), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
(no)
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 15 April 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
The Specials: Doesn't Make It Alright
So they were racist sods, than!!!!
― zeus, Friday, 15 April 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Given this thread, I don't think that Dubya has the monopoly on blinkered ignorance.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), April 15th, 2005.
recontextualization, ace.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I've heard back from Steve Severin, who doesn't know what Simone is up to, but posted a question about her on his web forum (though with no luck so far):
http://ub3.homepagetools.com/sseverin/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=mouthtomouth&Post=218&Idle=10&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
I've posted essentially the same question here:
http://onlyloversleftalive.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2567#2567
I've also heard from Don Letts (he hasn't heard from Simone lately) indirectly through James Spooner, and am waiting to hear from Ari Up, having contacted her management.
I think we're all probably talking about the right person. She seems to me to be worth tracking down, I think.
Complete side note: Doesn't M.I.A. kind of sound like Siouxsie?
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― OMG I SAID IT (Alex in SF), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah - MIA does sound a bit like Siouxsie...
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link
BIGOT
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Small ot.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.televisionpersonalities.co.uk/pistols.htm
.. has it as 'Simone'
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link
that's exactly what eman c&p'd four years ago.
― Cosmic Ugg (S-), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link