Taking sides: Rhythm vs Melody

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without rhythm all melodies would just be amorphous shifting ambient tones = lame

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N., Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes, you can whistle a snare drum part

But it doesn't sound like a snare drum. Even a wet one.

dleone, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

OK maybe you can whistle a rhythm. But it's a rhythm with a melody. If we're gonna be like that, you can dance to a melody quite easily too.

harveyw, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Isn't the aesthetic goal of avant schmindie to abolish these oppressive aspects of creative musical expression?

Clarke B., Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Neither, it's how the person making the melody or rhythm looks.

A Nairn, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Interesting rhythms: Led Zeppelin's 'Black Dog', lots of reggae things, lots of 'Latino' things.

PJ Miller, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Geir Hongro to thread! (or not.)

You are playing with fire.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Whatever became of Geir, anyway? ;)

Anyway, I will admit, all things being equal, I'm much more a melody fiend. Or, perhaps more accurately, a harmony fiend--I love songs that you can sing along with in the car. Okay, I'll quit now before I start sounding too much like Darth Hongr...er, you know...

Joe, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Further, I would say that rhythm component needs to have a great deal of variability to draw me in. Generally speaking, I am more enticed by the 'busier' kinds of drumming with polyrhythms, odd accentuations, sheer power (e.g. Vander, Bruford, Cobham are three of my favorite rock drummers)--the drummers who make you feel that they could play the same beat in 100 different ways, as a function of accentuation and dynamics, and access any of those 100 different ways instantly--rather than the more minimalistic, little-variation, repetitive rhythms (e.g. common in Kraut bands), which often (though not always) bores me after not too long.

I think Jaki Liebezeit, though, would probably be my ideal melding point of those two approaches.

Joe, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nine months pass...
Melody is course. Melody (along with harmony) means everything, rhythm means absolutely nothing at all.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

without rhythm, melody would be notes played at random intervals

oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

oops do you not like coldplay?

mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha ha!

oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 16:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
Hm. It seems the search function doesn't work properly, then.

man, Saturday, 26 April 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Enter an exact part of the title, not keywords"

Oops!

man, Saturday, 26 April 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
Lee Siegel is Geir Hongro! Who knew?

http://www.tnr.com/blog/culture?pid=14783

o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

"Martha Bayles, a former music and television critic at the Wall Street Journal, published a beautiful book titled, A Hole in Our Soul" - Good lord.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Except he's wrong. There are great tunes out there today too. Just they are very difficult to notice because they are drowning in all the R&B and hip-hop in the singles lists.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link


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