TS: Joni Mitchell - 'Hissing of Summer Lawns' vs 'Hejira'

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For me that album is all about the ballads - "Court & Spark", the middle stretch of the album (esp. "People's Parties" and "Same Situation") and "Trouble Child".

Even with "Just Like This Train" and the title song and "Down to You"?

I actually consider For The Roses and Court & Spark to be Joni's "difficult" growing pains albums, and the subsequent two albums to be much more fully realised and comfortable-sounding.

This is very OTM, regarding For The Roses, which is never mentioned much even though "Barandgrill" and "Electricity" and of course "You Turn Me On (I'm A Radio) [an even better pop song than "Help Me"].

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 3 February 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"I pulled off into a forest
Crickets clicking in the ferns
Like a wheel of fortune
I heard my fate turn, turn turn
And I went running down a white sand road
I was running like a white-assed deer
Running to lose the blues
To the innocence in here
These are the clouds of Michelangelo
Muscular with gods and sungold
Shine on your witness in the refuge of the roads
In a highway service station
Over the month of June
Was a photograph of the earth
Taken coming back from the moon
And you couldn't see a city
On that marbled bowling ball
Or a forest or a highway
Or me here least of all
You couldn't see these cold water restrooms
Or this baggage overload
Westbound and rolling taking refuge in the roads"

Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 February 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Of all albums JM has ever made, Heijra and Don juans reckless daughter are my absolute favorites!
Why are people so reluctant towards DJRD? I think the 3 songs at the end,"Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" "Night of backstreet" and "silky veils of ardor" are amazing!

Anne, Sunday, 23 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, but you have to sit through "Paprika Plains" to get there. Although I might like that track now. I sold the album a long time ago in a financially-necessitated great purge.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 April 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I think "Paprika Plains" is one of her finest moments.

Is anyone able to describe the differences with the new remixed version on that compilation she released last year? I haven't heard it.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

The remix on that recent comp has reconciliated me with Paprika Plains

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
So, according to Amazon UK, Hejira AND ...Summer Lawns AND Court and Spark are all being reissued by Rhino in remastered and expanded (double disc!) editions on 23 January.

There is absolutely zilch on the Rhino website about this, however, at least as far as I can see.

Can anyone independently confirm? And are there tracklists available? Can we expect previously unreleased material, or is this gonna be the more typical 'alternate, demo and live versions' cash-grab?

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

So, according to Amazon UK, Hejira AND ...Summer Lawns AND Court and Spark are all being reissued by Rhino in remastered and expanded (double disc!) editions on 23 January.

!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lex pretend (lex pretend), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

uh. already own, and fine with the sound quality.

OTOH it doesn't get much better than Joni. Will wait & see...

fandango (fandango), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

This has been announced a while ago, but still nothing about the track listing. I will be all over this.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 13 January 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems this has been pushed back again... In the meantime, from Bilboard:


Joni Mitchell
December 21, 2006, 3:30 PM ET
Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
Bjork, Prince, James Taylor and Elvis Costello are among the artists who have recorded covers for "A Tribute to Joni Mitchell," due in the spring via Nonesuch. The 12-track set also boasts contributions from Sarah McLachlan, k.d. lang, Emmylou Harris and Sufjan Stevens.

In related news, Billboard.com has learned that Mitchell has been recording original material at a Los Angeles studio in recent weeks. It is unknown in what form she plans to release the music; she angrily announced she was quitting the music business in 2002 after her last album, "Travelogue."

Here is the track list for "A Tribute to Joni Mitchell":

"Free Man in Paris," Sufjan Stevens
"Boho Dance," Bjork
"Dreamland," Caetano Veloso
"Don't Interrupt the Sorrow," Brad Mehldau
"For the Roses," Cassandra Wilson
"A Case of U," Prince
"Blue," Sarah McLachlan
"Ladies of the Canyon," Annie Lennox
"Magdalena Laundries," Emmylou Harris
"Edith and the Kingpin," Elvis Costello
"Help Me," k.d. lang
"River," James Taylor

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 13 January 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of those I can imagine very clearly - Elvis doing "Edith & the Kingpin" (excellent choice!), k. d. doing "Help Me"... but Bjork doing "Boho Dance"???

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

official word on reissues - they've come off the schedule so def not january; no word from rhino, if they happen it'll be in april at the earliest

lex pretend (lex pretend), Saturday, 13 January 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Annie Lennox's "Ladies of the Canyon" was the b-side to 1995's "No More `I Love You's'."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

that Björk track is way old now. Just glad to hear it's finally coming out!

lol @ Sufjan Stevens "unfettered and alive" my ass

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a very Sufjan song though in some ways - it shares his awkwardness.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

We forgot:

Phil Collins, "A Song For Sharon"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I have two ears and heart, haven't I?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - it does yes! so I suppose it's a 'good' choice. I just imagine him amplifying the cringe factor beyond my tolerance level...

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yes I agree with you about that!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Free Man in Paris," Sufjan Stevens

This absolutely frightens me... I can only imagine Surfjan trying to recreate Joni's take on the song. And he'll fall completely short. Unless he's got a magic bag of tricks, nothing I heard on Illinois has the depth of emotion that Joni brought to this - that up-sound and excitement, but the way her voice undercuts the song, so you hear the desperation and loneliness. Like being in a crowded room of people but feeling alone.

"A Case of U," Prince

haha. He changed "A Case of You" to "A Case of U." God knows what Prince will do with this. I drew a map of... Minneapolis?

The rest seem obvious enough. I actually think I heard James Taylor do River on a bootleg once. There's this great Taylor/Mitchell show (10-28-1970). I love it when they sang together.

And of course - super-psyched about new material. (Like a fanboy waiting for the new Good Charlotte album.)

Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Friday, 19 January 2007 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't really imagine Bojork doing the Boho Dance

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 January 2007 07:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince doing A Case Of You is no great surprise, he's never hidden his admiration for Joni Mitchell and her influence on him. He covered that song a few years ago though can't remember what it came out on, it may have been the acoustic album that came with Crystal Ball.

mms (mms), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the most prominent release of Prince covering "A Case Of You" would be the bootleg "Live At First Avenue 83". He also covered it when I saw him in concert a couple of years ago - so Prince has been covering the song for over 20 years and can probably produce a fantastic cover.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 19 January 2007 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've no problem with the Björk track at all, I think she'll just treat it like any other jazz or pop standard she's covered, i.e. sensitively. Whether she can bring any kind of new angle to it is less certain.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

REVIVE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't really imagine Bojork doing getting the Boho Dance

Hurting 2, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

the Prince cover is really lovely.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

And the Sufjan one is awful. This coming from someone who actually really liked Illinois.

jaymc, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Has anyone heard the Joni cover album Herbie Hancock put out? Some intriguing pairings... Tina Turner singing 'Edith and the Kingpin' anyone?

baaderonixx, Friday, 5 October 2007 07:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i only listened to <a href="http://blog.zeit.de/tontraeger/2007/09/28/liebesbriefe-nach-kanada_532";>leonard cohen reading "the jungle line"</a>. which i liked a lot.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry: the jungle line

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

anybody heard of this before?
http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html
i haven't listened yet, but it seems like a good thing.
still curious about that herbie hancock thing. have heard samples and it sounds pretty good. there's a danger of it sucking though, no doubt about it -- i recently heard that Gershwin's World CD Herbie did a few years back and ehhhhhh ... i understand that having big name guest stars on your record means it'll sell a bajillion more copies, but still ...

tylerw, Thursday, 25 October 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the Herbie Hancock album. I think the guest stars are fairly understated, and Tina Turner's rendition of "Edith and the Kingpin" is pretty fantastic actually.

jaymc, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, what I've heard from that album was actually very good. Need to pick it up.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Awesome link by the way. Thanks! Can't wait to hear these.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow - the guitar demo for Harry's House is awesome.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

So... Whatever happened to those remasters?

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link

they happened already dude

winston, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

[reads upthread]

oops i thought you meant the remasters from 2 years ago or whatever

winston, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

They are still nowhere to be seen around here. Other than up to "For The Roses" that is.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

both of these are so good. long time coming. i feel like those last two tracks on 'hejira' bring it down a notch. too cute. need more digesting time though. i love joni right now, probably too much.

strgn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link

but i'm thinking 'hejira' ftw

strgn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"Refuge of the Roads" is cute?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:45 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah. not 'cute,' but not 'black crow,' you know? cute.

strgn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:48 (fifteen years ago) link

1+ fretless bass
1- chords, song

strgn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:49 (fifteen years ago) link

1++++ fretless bass.

strgn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

these are the clouds of michaealangelo
muscular with darts

fuck this, this is no contest, i'm just loving joni more and more.

strgn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

For me, 'Refuge' is both the essence of the album and its natural conclusion.

I mean:


In a highway service station
Over the month of June
Was a photograph of the earth
Taken coming back from the moon
And you couldn't see a city
On that marbled bowling ball
Or a forest or a highway
Or me here least of all
You couldn't see these cold water restrooms
Or this baggage overload
Westbound and rolling taking refuge in the roads

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 08:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Weird - listened to "A Song for Sharon" this morning. I don't know anyone who can write these melodies for these polysyllables, or have the inspiration to use high-pitched whoops for emphasis.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link


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