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I can't believe my two favorites actually made it to the end.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, I'll bite ... there would be something improper about "Heart of Glass" getting turfed early and its b-side lasting until the very end ... plus, only the last 20 seconds before the coda of "11:59" are truly essential.

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3. Picture This
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11.
12.

"Picture This" = girl-group heaven = the essence of Blondie

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha Noodle Vague's prophecy comes true.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked that last one, so let's try this:

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
9. The Lady In My Life

Plus, only 9 tracks.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't it mindinrewind's choice? ;)

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
9.

Anyway I have removed the only one I can't instantly call to mind, which seems like a good way to proceed. I doubt "The Girl Is Mine" will last long but I think it's kind of endearing.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll take a rain check on my choice ... "Thriller" is a great pick regardless (although I'm fairly certain what will win).

This album sorta peters out after track six, doesn't it?

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

it's not as bad as "Ebony and Ivory"

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) Ha, sorry about that, glad it all worked out though. As my current handle suggests, I am stuck at home and thus jumped the gun.

I was both genuinely curious to see what would win (I do think there's a good case to be made for at least half of the tracks here) and interested to see if the trend of someone killing the obvious choice early would continue.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I can all of these from memory, except for one.
Non-hummability = non-essence = bye bye Baby Be Mine!

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2.
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

wanna be endin' something!
and with that, im almost guaranteed to be satisfied with this one!

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2.
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Human Nature is nice, but not that nice...

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4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
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8.
9.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I have to kill "Beat It"... Michael trying to sound tough doesn't really do it for me...

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2.
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4. Thriller
5.
6. Billie Jean
7.
8.
9.

Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Come on, it's Billie Jean.

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6. Billie Jean
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8.
9.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

what else could it be?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's try this:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

woo hoo! the only one i was gonna be even a little disappointed about was "thriller."

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

other than "wanna be startin somethin" which is immense.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

It's possible I'm just doing this because I never make it that far in the album, but I'll cut "Rocket Queen."

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12.

Oh, and honestly, I think "Billie Jean" is a better single, but as essence, it's "Wanna Be Startin Something" all the way. Not JUST because of the latin-beat breakdown, but that helps.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"Picture This" = girl-group heaven = the essence of Blondie

But not the essence of parallel lines at all! argh!!11!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Anything Goes has got to go. Not very memorable.

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Similarly, I can't imagine anyone putting on this album and thinking "Oooh, let's skip immediately to "Think About You""

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I think in the case of "Appetite" the obvious choices are also clearly the right ones and we could probably eliminate all pretenders right now, but then again, I've always thought of that album as fat with filler

but let's get rid of one of their more half-asses anthems right now:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

haha "half-asses"

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

update:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7. My Michelle
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

right sorry I was caught in a hail of xposts!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

cutting "my michelle," kind of a lightweight compared to some of the others...

update:
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

daveheaton, Monday, 26 September 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

man, the only one i dont love of the remaining is "welcome to the jungle," but i cant bring myself to deny that song's position as pure essence.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

fine - if no one is going to get excited, ill just use my pick to go ahead and make people angry.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the essence may have fled, but I didn't like "Mr Brownstone" when I didn't like this album, and I don't like it much now I do. The sing-song chorus annoys me.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

if "out ta get me" wins it means the antichrist just got born

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

No worries, that song blows.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

The King of Flop Threads, Monday, 26 September 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

no, I'm not crazy at all.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10.
11.
12.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

IT'S A PHOTO FINISH

not

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

its a SLOW-TO finish!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link


OK, the essence of this album is one of the harder tracks. "Sweet Child O' Mine" may be one of their best known singles, but it's not representative - and though it's not bad, it's overrated.

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2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
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5.
6.
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11.
12.

Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

ahh, neither of the remaining tracks are representative of the album - Sweet Child, I'd argue, was

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

(I already voted, but: "It's So Easy" at least has the virtue of compressing all of Axl & Slash's starry-eyed NY Dolls worship into a single track, while "Nightrain" is just a piece of shit)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Jungle is obviously the essence of this record, but rules are rules. Somebody hurry up and finish this one off.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Whatever...

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2. It's So Easy
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10.
11.
12.

Lets do Robyn

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3. Robotboy
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8. Eclipse
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Robotboy bugs me, na na na na na na

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8. Eclipse
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Laney, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

this game is great... (i even check it from home...).
the results are surprising.
i think we should make a "ILM essence" compilation of all the essential tracks voted at some point... and make a thread about it (of course, all the people who haven't participate would disagree, there would be names, there would be violence, people would call other people rockist, racist, homophobe, nazis... wouldn't it be nice ?)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Eclipse is totally the most disposable track

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck. Only one I know on this is Konichiwa Bitches. Which may be the essense, though I don't know... (And I'm still smarting that 11:59 lost out...)

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

this game is great...

until it's an album you've never heard of...

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

...or an album you don't give a sh*t about (there have been a couple. I have sat those rounds out.)

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe there could be two albums on the go at once.

(I mean, actually, there are! Nobody ever decided the last two on the Police one, and also everybody agreed to ignore David Sylvian - so there may even be three!)

I think finding the essence of Robyn is a noble and worthwhile cause but frankly it's going to take a while especially as most of the people who like her are sleeping in Europe right now.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"the pure essence of an album"

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Should Have Known" is also on Robyn's 2002 album so it IS NOT ESSENCE AND SUCH GOES, even if it's not the same recording. (I have come to appreciate "Konichiwa Bitches" now as a kind of insane halfway point between Moloko's "Fun For Me" and Missy Elliott's "Work It" but "Crash And Burn Girl" is still the buried gem on this "record").

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the others are a lot better

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

"...while the vinyl is spread out against the sky like a patient etherized upon a table."

Tom, I agree Robyn is a worthy cause, and when those people wake up I'll return to find we're on something entirely different. That's the beauty of it too.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Can we do a Puressence album next?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link


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