Shaar is great. Jonchaies is still probably my favorite piece by him — just an elemental power. So far on first listening Synaphaï is the standout piece. Kyania is kind of boring and rhythmically square, like some of late Xenakis I've heard.
― Set the Controls for the Heart of the Baby Head Sun (corey), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Change of gears:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61qVqFIGNjL.jpg
― Set the Controls for the Heart of the Baby Head Sun (corey), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
So beautiful. I've listened to this disc close to a dozen times and yet for some reason still have not explored his other organ works. There are just so many of them, I don't know where to start — though maybe I should just assume (probably correctly) that they're all good.
― Set the Controls for the Heart of the Baby Head Sun (corey), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I just made a command decision that I need to explore Shostakovich and Prokofiev. Where to start? I prefer dense, dark, and dramatic.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link
there's a rly nice xenakis piece for organ, gmeeoorh
shostakovich....well those adjectives will fit a lot of his work, espcially symphonic
#7 and #10 especially but i like the last (#15) which is quite strange and parodic and grim
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I strongly recommend Shostakovich's 8th string quartet.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Also the second piano trio.
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
But enough about Shostakovich. I'm a much bigger fan of Prokofiev and would recommend the following in particular:
Third, Fifth, and Sixth SymphoniesRomeo and JulietSecond piano concertoSecond violin concerto <-- good place to start
Piano Sonatas: Nos. 3, 6, 7, 8, 9
Less "dense, dark, and dramatic," but equally great:
First Symphony ("Classical")Lt. KijeFlute and piano sonata (there's a later version for violin and piano)
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVoUQScW5s
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knqsx6_Ku1Q
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
And a much younger Gilels playing the same work
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know much Prokofiev so I couldn't say much other than echoing the recommendations of the others — as for Shostakovich, I'd recommend his Piano Quintet and the String Quartets (all of them from 3 on. I'd start with the trilogy of 7, 8 and 9).
― Esa-Pekka picked a pack of pickled peppers (corey), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks for the recommendations guys! :)
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Be sure to post here once you've listened to them. :)
Now playing on LP: Handel Recorder Sonatas, Op. 1 (Gustav Leonhardt, August Wenzinger, Hans-Martin Linde)
― Esa-Pekka picked a pack of pickled peppers (corey), Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link
NP:
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― pope ur ban II (corey), Saturday, 18 September 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I used to work in that building!
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 18 September 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Where is it?
― pope ur ban II (corey), Saturday, 18 September 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
It's the Renzo Piano tower at IRCAM (Paris).
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 18 September 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
(And I only worked there for about six months way back in 2001.)
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 18 September 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
That's really cool though. I really hope to visit IRCAM one day.
― pope ur ban II (corey), Saturday, 18 September 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41qB4N9j12L._SS500_.jpg
Revisiting this set, my first complete Sib. I'm listening to the disc with syms. 5-7.
― pope ur ban II (corey), Sunday, 19 September 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the best music ever btw.
Buxtehude, baby.
― o. nate, Sunday, 19 September 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Cool, I don't know much by him other than a few organ pieces that are in the Gustav Leonhardt box set. What do you recommend?
― pope ur ban II (corey), Sunday, 19 September 2010 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening:
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LvB - Große fugeConlon Nancarrow - String Quartet No. 3Ruth Crawford-Seeger - String QuartetRoger Reynolds - Coconico... A Shattered LandscapeIannis Xenakis - Tetras
― pope ur ban II (corey), Monday, 20 September 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
that's a great cd, my fav version of grosse fuge, xenakis and c-s pieces excellent
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, and the Nancarrow is a lot of fun and the Reynolds piece was a surprise, I'd never heard him until now.
― pope ur ban II (corey), Monday, 20 September 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Tonight saw Cliff Colnot conduct the Civic Orchestra in Sibelius's 4th and the 2nd suite from Ravel's Daphnis and Chloé. Orchestra sounded good but the tempi in the Sib were... weird, but the Ravel went off without a hitch.
― pope ur ban II (corey), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't even know if William Brittelle's new Television Landscape is even "classical," apart from the fact that the whole thing is notated, but I don't know where else to mention it on ILM. It's really fantastic.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I listened to a bit, would probably say it's pop, but pop in the vein of Van Dyke Parks with really good arrangements. The vocals are a little off-putting.
― pope ur ban II (corey), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Went to my first recital in an age last night. Highlight was a piece for violin and piano, played by Tim Parkinson and Angharad Davies.
From the pre-performance intro Tim gave you can conclude that, if it was composed in the 1850s people would have dismissed simply as out of tune, but because of the baggage that history accumulates over time something like this, executed with a straight face, could work. I actually like the violin passages at the end where it was reaching certain frequencies where it sounded so out of tune. The old notes but not in this way.
When a young group gets together for their first gig its their naivety and perhaps their ignorance (and that you know of this) but also enthusiasm that makes anyone listening invest emotions to make up for any gaps in tech. But here you know they are aware of history and that they have a technique. Usually I'd dismiss but there was almost a serious attempt to codify naivety. Except that its the lack of investment on part of your ear that is felt the most.
I guess I wanted to feel cheated, somehow.
Also heard a performance of Earle Brown's December 1952 (piano/saxophone). Made much more of an impression than any recording.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Neat, I went to a similar concert on Sunday held in a loft and put on by a few local musicians — the guy who put it together is a composer/pianist. He played some short piano pieces by a Uruguayan composer whose name I can't remember, a piece by French composer Allain Gaussin (of whom I'd not heard before then) and Feldman's Piano Piece 1956 A. After that a trio played improvisational electroacoustic music with electric guitar, amplified flute and a home-built instrument that had various objects amplified like metal springs, a pewter chalice, hair combs and small pieces of metal that made a sound like a thumb piano. After that a quartet of clarinet, flute, piano and modular synthesizer played some improvisational music with a more structured character.
― pope ur ban II (corey), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening this week:
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― meatball subs (corey), Thursday, 23 September 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pPp3YFGAL._SS500_.jpg
― corey, Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Martha Argerich playing Bach's Partita no. 2 in C minor and English Suite no. 2 in A minor... beautiful and very brilliant
― jeevves, Saturday, 25 September 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.musicweb-international.com/film/2001/Aug01/Dekalog.jpg
― ('_') (omar little), Saturday, 25 September 2010 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Re: the Nono I posted above — remarkable stuff. The early Due Esspressioni seems to be an extension of Webern's muted dynamics and constantly shifting instrumental color. There are some really unique instrument doublings in the latter half of the piece.
A Carolo Scarpa is surprisingly Scelsi-like, gravitating around a single tone and alternating stretches of silence with exclamations from the orchestra (with a hefty percussion battery).
Post-Praeludium is scored for tuba and live electronics, but is surprisingly delicate and quite beautiful really. The actions of the player come back as echoes and eventually the lines pile up, weave across and interact with each other. Very ghostly.
"fragmente-stille" is famous. I've heard the Arditti recording but it's been probably four years, so I couldn't compare, but I remember the piece as being extremely static and dull — so funny how our perceptions change. There is so much drama in this piece and I find it excitingly varied and engaging. Need to hear the other recordings.
― lady gagaku (corey), Monday, 27 September 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Or see fragmente-stille live. Saw the Arditti play that with one of Schoenberg's quartet and it works really well!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 September 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope that I'll be able to in my lifetime! Where did you see the Ardittis?
― lady gagaku (corey), Monday, 27 September 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51r65Ld7cfL._SS500_.jpg
Scando-tonal syms from a composer that died too young (only 64). Neither are incredibly groundbreaking but both are very personal and unique. The 3rd is surprisingly bleak. He eventually wrote a total of 8 syms and 11 string quartets (which I especially want to hear).
― corey, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Corey - At the QEH in London.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to this week:
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The Ligeti (from his bizarre-yet-accessible late style) I know and love, but I'm new to the Nørgård pieces. I'm a huge Nørgård fan and think he's one of the greatest composers living today.
― third-strongest mole (corey), Sunday, 3 October 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Listened:
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― third-strongest mole (corey), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
― Gorecki or Go Home (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:48 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I'm foolishly attempting to learn this one. It's probably going to be an all-year affair, and I usually seem to tackle Prokofiev, get halfway through and give up. So we'll see.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I was a fairly serious pianist when much younger, and I worked on Prokofiev 3, but getting halfway and giving up was my speciality, too. But it's a great piece, even though the energetic and lyrical sides seem stitched together awkwardly at a few points. I hope you stick with it! What else are you playing?
― ti, I drink with jam and lewis (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Agree about the stitching together aspect, tho it seems that's true of a lot of the Prokofiev I like.
As of right now, this is the only P piece I've managed to make it all the way through (and not, obv, up to speed):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chmSTEIcZ_w
― Eric H., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Right now, mostly working on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJgku8ssPZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNfF7be3kY
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYp53nPchp4
― Eric H., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link
If you play a recital I want to be there! Lotus Land is the only Cyril Scott piece I know, thanks to this anthology:
http://assets.sheetmusicplus.com/product/Look-Inside/covers/3603869.jpg
(Which has a much plainer cover design in the edition I own.)
― ti, I drink with jam and lewis (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Oy, that I could ever get enough pieces in recital condition at the same time! (What else is in that anthology?)
― Eric H., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/An-Anthology-Of-Piano-Music-Vol-4-The-Twentieth-Century/3603869
Click on the "Song [sic] List" tab, then click "see all..."
― ti, I drink with jam and lewis (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link