NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Techno/Electronic/Ambient/etc TRACKS poll (nominations end 9/30/10 11:59 PDT)

hey i found a shortcut:

http://www.discogs.com/advanced_search?genre=electronic&btn=Search+Releases

only 58,301 pages to scroll through.

We just need someone's dog to keep us focused on what's true and what's false.

sorry deej i was just playing

as i said in the other thread, considering how popular these nomination threads have been how come the rolling dance threads and related are such barren waste lands lately? is it just a sad fact of ilm that mindless listing and cataloguing is always gonna win out over actual meaningful discussion? i guess i know the answer to that but still, surely it's just as much effort to make these polls (which for the record i've never participated in and don't intend to) and vote in them as it is to i dunno post in the techno/house of the past thread about the hi hats in "forever monna" or whatever?

i don't want to spoil ya'lls fun anyway, i'm just honestly interested as to why so few of the dance music experts in this thread don't express their love of the music elsewhere

Me, personally? Because a couple of years ago, when I first turned up on dance threads asking questions that were taken to be stupid, I was told by a couple of the denizens within "OMG, if *she* starts getting into dance music, I'm getting out of it" - which can kind of put you off a bit.

Also because a lot of the things I'm interested in tend to be historically focused rather than sifting through the sea of newness to find stuff I'd like. With regards to new stuff, I'd rather read people who know their stuff than me shooting my mouth off and probably being told I'm wrong. I read the general thread, I certainly listen to the YouTubes but I don't think I have the knowledge to go much further unless a very specific thing is being discussed.

My presence here is v. dilettantish - I'm far from an expert on dance and my electronic tastes are to a large extent offshoots of my love for disco and Krautrock. I can talk Italo/early house/IDM/Hyperdub/beardo ok but I had never heard The Percolator until deej's rant above.

I agree there's a lower barrier to entry on a poll thread than on a Rolling Dance one, which probably works well for outsiders like me who come to learn and annoys insiders who are capable of arguing about hi hats and coffee pots. Depending on how this all works out I may or may not vote in the poll, it's not so important to me. In the metal poll (also characterised by subgenre territorialism and true/false oppositions) I didn't feel qualified to nominate or vote but I enjoyed the results rundown a great deal, heard a lot of new music and came away feeling I'd learned something. I'm hoping for similar outcomes here.

I'm kinda like Kate: these days I don't really follow new trends in dance/electronic music quite as actively as I did in the 90s, so I don't feel like I have much to contribute to the on-going "bobbins" threads. As for the "bobbins of the past" thread, it seems to be focused mostly on the sort of stuff I'm not very familiar with. My biggest love in electronic music is (pretty much) German non-minimal techno/house/dance of the 90s, but that isn't discussed much on ILM. I even started a thread about it, but it wasn't a success:

A Youtube/discussion thread for non-minimal German techno/rave/house/trance of the 90s (and beyond)

pretty much what Seandalai said, though my areas of semi-expertise are different. Looking forward to seeing how the chips fall, arbitrarily as they may.

lolling that ppl are bitching about "The Percolator" not being nominated while failing to nominate it

PS, I nominate:

Cajmere - The Percolator

like, obviously the way to solve the problem of the wrong songs being nominated is to NOMINATE THE SONGS YOU THINK ARE THE RIGHT ONES, otherwise you're just being a dick

I suspect this will be waaay more divisive than the metal poll. What ever your preferred metal sub-genre, there's still a sense of everyone pulling in the same direction for a common cause and aesthetic. Not so with dance, inter-scene rivally can be very fucking snarky. Part of the fun I guess.

happy hardcore = the hair metal of electronic?

nah, but only because I like happy hardcore

I hate both :)

I'm not an expert in any sense, but I enjoy the genre (the poppy end, as with just about every other genre basically) and hope the tracks rundown will be a great way to hear more good stuff. No interest in debating hi-hats*, thanks. And it's hardly mindless listing - the rundown threads are great, whenever an actual discussion manages to break out among the bitching.

I'm also aware that the more people pitch in, the better any poll is going to be - so here I am.

* not actually true

If only a band existed that combined the two.

xpost

Rotterdam Termination Source - Poing

what a scary thought
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kind of lolling that in the midst of "let's combine hair metal with happy hardcore" I xposted a nomination for a gabba track

somebody somewhere will mix emo ,crabcore,hair metal and happy hardcore.

Rotterdam Termination Source - Poing

I already nominated this!

Also, I wish this had been called a dance music poll. Because I'm getting quite irate that most of the electronic music I love doesn't seem to be eligible any more (I mean, are people going to be mad if I nominate Raymond Scott and Louis & Bebe Barron? WTF?)

I foresee a splinter "electronic music you can't dance to" poll, to complement the "dance music with live drums" one.

dont forget the "dance music with guitars" poll

aka "The Klaxons poll"?

I had a vague idea for one poll for floorfillers/bangers and another for ambient/downbeat/weird shit, but could in no way be arsed.

i cant wait for all the butthurt "i thought this poll was going to be great but nothing i like has made the list" posts.

yeah this should make the metal poll look like a total love-in

which is AS IT SHOULD BE, of course

Sparks - The Number One Song in Heaven

Veto... sorry.

maybe everyone should drop an e whilst the results are rolled out.
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I would hope there would be less fighting on this polls results thread than the metal poll, but i'm really not so sure now. I hope gear has the patience of a saint!

I thought the metal poll was reasonably good-natured!

did you read it all?????

Er... Not absolutely everything.

at times dan wondered why he was reading it.

Seriously it was like full blown warfare at times.

the most bad tempered poll i've ever seen.

Not to mention Louis' interventions. And Bill Magill's despair.

Come to think of it I mainly just scrolled through to each results.

each result.

I hope gear knows what he's let himself in for, as he probably will never want to run a poll again if the same happens here.

I would hope there would be less fighting on this polls results thread than the metal poll

Death to false Techno/Electronic/Ambient/etc

I hope Finntroll places #1 in the electronic poll AND the metal poll, now that would be awesome.

oh it went far beyond that!
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the most bad tempered poll i've ever seen.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:33 AM (3 minutes ago)

what did you expect in the METAL POLL!!!

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRx9UZOIqm0l-NAXjND_IuSNgFTVEEZG6Ypt8t9kFvgnJVZQTw&t=1&usg=__5rSq9lRh-_4JIOGtL7XcbIylkS4=

that dude in the picture probably works in a bank

where he posts on a forum and totally rips some new assholes when it comes to the topic of metal

What we really need is some big sweaty meathead bouncer and a skinny fashionable gay dude with a clipboard going "you're not coming in THIS poll dressed like that!"

I doubt he would be fighting over the lack of hair metal in an ilm metal poll somehow.

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Excuse me, are YOU on the list? No, I don't think you are. You're not on the list, you're not coming in this thrad. OUT OF THIS THREAD. BOUNCERS!

You're not coming in here, you're wearing trainers.