this made me go "huh..."
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3112/screenshotgre.png
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Sunday, 19 September 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
revive
Had he looked like, I dunno, say, Weird Al, would chicks have still dug him?
Listening to Grace for the first time in maybe a decade figured my tastes had changed drastically since I gave up on it, I thought I'd like it more. But no. Still overwrought, still can't make it through the whole thing.
Would have liked to hear his third/fourth album, though. I mean, I can't stand the first Tim Buckley album either.
― john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Imagine him on American Idol, though!
― john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
many opinions make me not get ILX sometimes. the post above, is such an example
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
his version of "Hallelujah" is one of my least favorite pieces of music ever
― corey, Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
ok now I fully think ILX = opposite day board
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
nah, I know full well I'm in the minority due to how many times his keening intrudes on my time in any given café (c'mon hipsters, find some other signifier for "cool").
― corey, Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
you may be in the minority in public but not on this board!
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
John and corey, I have your back forever on this.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
HOOOOOOOOOOS to thread plz
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Dud
― Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Saturday, 7 May 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
classic
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Weird Al's not an unattractive dude 'cept for the wacky hair.
― offee is for losers only, do you not c? (Abbbottt), Saturday, 7 May 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://amysrobot.com/files/weirdal.JPG
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 7 May 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
relistened to all his stuff for the first time in a while. grace now sounds pretty bad, sketches sounded fantastic.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Saturday, 7 May 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
If you squint he has a bit part as a stoner on Treme.
― the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Saturday, 7 May 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
some dude wrote this on thread "The Wire" on HBO on board I Love Everything on Jan 15, 2011
if they ever do a Jeff Buckley biopic they should really cast Ransone, both because he looks close enough and because afaict JB was about as obnoxious as Ziggy irl
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Saturday, 7 May 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently they ARE doing a biopic now and i plan on griping when James Franco or whoever gets the part
we've never done a Grace poll, have we? that would be fun
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Saturday, 7 May 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Or that Twilight guy will get it the part, or Keira Knightly maybe.
― the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Sunday, 8 May 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Saddest thing is that I felt he was actually, massively improving. 'Sketches' is way, way better than Grace. I loved the direction he was taking there.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 8 May 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"Josh Groban, as you've never seen him before...."
― buzza, Sunday, 8 May 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was listening to Sketches recently and there is some great stuff on there
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Have fond memories of seeing him in 95 at a RRR FM rooftop gig in the rain...no-one thought he would play but they threw a tarp over the stage and he played and joked it was one of the best nights of my life. (Added bonus: we met Mick Grondahl afterwards going down the stairs, very sweet & friendly)
I can't defend him to anyone who hates him without morphing into stupid-fangirl mode, but I've always held his music pretty close...funny, but I can't fight to the death over his music the way I will happily do with other music I love. I think I just found the music v intense, and he was around for such a short time that it really left a mark. I don't ever put him up for discussion because I guess I can't handle talking about him still. Sounds dumb, I know.
― VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 8 May 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
his music's by no means infallible or beyond criticism but the reasons people dismiss or hate on him are generally total superficial bullshit
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Rockist creedo #813 -- If a bunch of people are jamming out to Nirvana before i've even heard of them, they must suck to infinity. If even the most mediocre of bands is on my radar before anybody else, then I shall be their champion.
I had a bunch of Tim years before Jeff was around. And while I still believe that Tim has 100x the chops, I cannot deny my affinity for his son. For the last decade I've mostly appreciated the more striped-down acoustic pieces (the extended Sin-e is delightful, saving of course for the caustic "Kick Out The Jams"). I was glad he got his props, however, I really dislike all the fanboy neuroticisms extolled A.D. It was like when Cobain blew his brains out, I mean, no big surprise there and no great loss - as something new is always coming down the highway (or, better yet, something old that you've never heard before). Holding anything up as being so untouchably precious is the enemy of truly new ideas in music.
― suspecterrain, Sunday, 8 May 2011 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i am here now fyi
also drunk, which is appropriate
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
lol...i have a mid-evening hangover myself :/
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
what some dude said
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link
And while I still believe that Tim has 100x the chops, I cannot deny my affinity for his son.
^ yup
just put on "forget her," straight fire imo
― ilxor, I know you sometimes feel like ilx revolves around you (ilxor), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
It was like when Cobain blew his brains out, I mean, no big surprise there and no great loss - as something new is always coming down the highway (or, better yet, something old that you've never heard before). Holding anything up as being so untouchably precious is the enemy of truly new ideas in music.
i don't think 'no big surprise' applies to buckley, i mean the guy drowned in a freak accident after spontaneously deciding to go for a swim.
my attitude towards him is pretty much, hey, if his popularity gets more ppl to listen to his dad, cool.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 8 May 2011 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link
― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:32 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm.
― As predicted, nobody is reading my post. (stevie), Sunday, 8 May 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link
before his death (when he'd sold virtually zero records btw) people criticised him for being self-indulgent and ott. now he's dead and he's sold lots of records to uncool people, people criticise him for being anodyne and dull. figure that one out.
i think he's rad tbh, and punch myself in the balls every day for not going to see him play london in 93. i couldn't get anyone to go with me and i should have just gone on my own.
― As predicted, nobody is reading my post. (stevie), Sunday, 8 May 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHLgKxB14Lo
His earnestness and goofiness didn't mix at-all with the perceived cool of having an inherited 'prestige artist' status, flip-flopping between beautiful poetic wunderkind and goofy Rush-loving guitar nerd makes him such an easy target.
But all said and done I stil dig a lot of his music and especially like his effervescent atitude towards giving props to other artists, like the scatty way he arrives at the Nusrat cover on the expanded Sin-E CD for instance.
― the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Sunday, 8 May 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago) link
"Mojo Pin" is one of my favorite songs ever.
and how can anybody resist "Everybody Here Wants You"
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 May 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link
flip-flopping between beautiful poetic wunderkind and goofy Rush-loving guitar nerd
I think you hit on what I like best about him! Like I think half my favorite songs of his are covers.
― crabbbittts (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubYDPqi6ht4
Por ejemplo I would have been totes happy if he just did 'sad man in him room' style cover album of 'Lamb...' *skronk*
― crabbbittts (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 May 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I've still never listened to "Grace," actually.
― crabbbittts (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
oh you totes should, it's a favorite of mine.
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
O_________________________________________________________________O @ i against i
ps yes listen to grace
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
XP - he would have done a great Cuckoo Cocoon
― Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
yes!!!!! that is exactly what I was thinking.
― crabbbittts (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
oh i love his "back in nyc," basement guitar tone and all
he really accessed the evil in it
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
this is also where i say second disc of sketches or gtfo
xxpost I could hear him doing a very brooding and emotive "The Musical Box"
― BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder if liked XTC?
Anyhoo, my favourite of his cover versions.http://youtu.be/__uu9kNBDS0
― Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Sometimes I put on the Sin-e set, and it really strikes me how almost confrontational it is. Like, that voice, those songs, those covers, in a tiny, tiny room? I can imagine stumbling on something that intimate might have been pretty uncomfortable.
I think he's a great singer and guitarist, of course, and probably a great songwriter, too. It's almost shame he's judged almost entirely by "Grace," since by all accounts that album was slapped together pretty quickly. Considering it's bookended by live coffee shop meandering and an unfinished album, I can hardly think of another major, so influential artists represented by such an incomplete portrait.
Re: the covers, I appreciate that he seems equally and honestly into the Smiths, Zeppelin, Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan, Genesis or Bad Brains or whatever. I suppose his lack of irony, and that goofy persona, may be what puts some folks off, especially someone expecting an artist more analogous to, say, Nick Drake.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
well and i've seen interviews where he's really self serious and """profound""" so the bad brains cover in particular with him laughing and shit was kind of a shock
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
in my mind he's a dork, first and foremost.
I think of him like I think of Eddie Vedder: in his natural, relaxed state he is a goob. But in yr early 20's they try to behave as serious artists and be earnest & push the goofiness down until no-one knows thats who you are. I cant stand much of the early Vedder bc of that struggle that is obvious now that he has relaxed into his fame...I think Jeff had the same discomfort with all the attention...but if he'd hung around we'd have seen more of his goofishness and it would have tempered that weird, uncomfortably fierce earnestness
― VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link