Oh! The Fall John Peel Sessions box set! OH! you guys.

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Not a patch on Douglas's piece of course, but my thoughts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

this is an AMAZING picture:

http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphics/features/0536/050907_music_fall.jpg

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

from the inside of the booklet

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

that was taken at his 60th biirthday gig when house of love, wedding present and the fall all played. there are various other versions with different combinations of people stood around him and on the stairs behind him, one of which was an nme cover the week after.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:37 (eighteen years ago) link

... 50th birthday surely?

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

They played both 50th and 60th.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

But the photo above is from the 50th celebrations

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
What the?

Is it just me, or does the cover picture (not the commentary text, the cover pic itself) of "50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong" in the back of the booklet (page 41 or 42, I think) say something subtly different?

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Go on, check it out, it's true! (page 41 of the Peel Sessions box set booklet)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ha! still, better than "5".

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard there was a "domestic version" (US) out now that's a good $30 cheaper than before...any word on this?

Miked, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Happy Birthday, this box set..
Happy birthday tooo youuuuuuuu!!!!!

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yea. i have this now. one of the best things ever. look, know.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Last time I played it: 1 month ago.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh I am gonna rock this at my radio show today.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

This remains the greatest product ever.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

How weird, I was just listening to it all this week as a timekiller on my flights to and from Terrastock. Genius, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I am yet to fully digest it.

It is one of the greatest products ever, yes.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link

It does tail off a fair bit after 1987 though. Worth the cover price for the 78-87 sessions of course. The March 83 session may be the best stuff they ever recorded.

Venga (Venga), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Whenever I look at the box, it shouts back at me: "A JEW ON A MOTORBIKE!!"

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

This is one of my favorite things ever.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
There is no way a person can possibly hope to disentangle themselves from the brilliance of the Fall.

And I should be shot for not having bought this already.

Joker! Hysterical! Face! (Bimble...), Sunday, 27 August 2006 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I did finally see that BBC show on them that was discussed here I guess on another thread. I really enjoyed it. And somehow, when they showed Brix I wept. I don't know why, I just wept when I saw her.

Joker! Hysterical! Face! (Bimble...), Sunday, 27 August 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The Fall were a huge part of my adolescence.

Joker! Hysterical! Face! (Bimble...), Sunday, 27 August 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

oopsy. i just discovered that i deleted my mp3inators of this box. shit.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 27 August 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

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Joker! Hysterical! Face! (Bimble...), Sunday, 27 August 2006 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

COUNT FINGERS ON ONE HAND! COUNT YOUR FRIENDS ON ONE HAND!

Joker! Hysterical! Face! (Bimble...), Sunday, 27 August 2006 02:26 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
I can barely type out how much I am enjoying this box - it's on sale several places and I got mine at a Tower Records close-out. Pure genius - was a middling Fall/MES fan for a long time - I am ragin' full on duly converted - brilliant! So many sessions (Fall 70s 80s) just extremely ahead of its time...

SonicDeath (BlackIronPrison), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It warms my heart that you are a convert! Yes, I was jealous when I read about people who got it at the Tower close out. That means it's probably too late for me. *weeps*

Only The Stones Remain (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 November 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

it is here

i am scared

everybody hauritz (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Just dive in would be my advice.

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

disc 1 is pretty close to being my favorite Fall "album." so kick-ass

dmr, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

No need to fear - unless it's overwhelming pleasure that you're afraid of! Also, keep in mind you may not like it all at first, but with repeated listens your favorites will shift. I especially love the few times they revisited older tracks and gave them something of a new spin (cf "The Man Whose Head Expanded").

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not THAT scared! i will start at the beginning.

everybody hauritz (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

open the box, open the box, open the God damn box

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Go on. Liveblog every song :)

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Futures And Pasts - such a clean, optimistic guitar tone! For about three seconds it's gonna be a blissful pop song, maybe female-sung, youthful and dynamic. Then a weirdly dinky keyboard and a chorus of yammering Smiths. It's still a blissful pop-song, mind. Just one whose youth and whose dynamic are slightly more oblique than you'd expect.

Mother-Sister - I love this! Great little tune. The chorus is a Fall special, the first moment thus far that MES really leaps out and begins to pulverise one's cerebral caus...cortex. Nicely sloppy tempo-change too. Darkness begins to permeate. Atonal shriek. This is fucking classic material. Atonal howl.

Rebellious Jukebox - Nice wonky bassline, absolutely no idea what the percussion's doing here but it sounds like it's being played under quicksand by morons. I mean that in the best possible sense. Descending vocal hook is the killer. Guitarist on verge of collapse, as he should be.

Industrial Estate - An exhortation, then a rave-up. These are the most 'punk' I've ever heard MES' vocals. Possibly deliberate. It doesn't suit him quite as much as his usual hectoring denouncement. Leaves promptly.

everybody hauritz (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

More when I'm not dying of tired.

everybody hauritz (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

New Puritan still sounds like the most extraordinary thing I have ever heard

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 31 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The improvement in sound/performance between the late 80's/early 90's tracks and their album counterparts is huge. perfect example Chicago Now which sounds flat and a bit dull on the album but wonderful on the Peel Sessions,

The Broken Brothers, Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

the 'perverted by language' era session is maybe my favorite fall recording of all time

great sugar wall of sheena (donna rouge), Saturday, 2 January 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

The improvement in sound/performance between the late 80's/early 90's tracks and their album counterparts is huge.

Agreed! In fact, it caused me to reevaluate the quality of their 90s work entirely, which I had previously dismissed. MES really knew which tracks were the best to highlight for Peelie.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 2 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Put Away - Crisper already than the first session. He sounds youthful and there is a dinky keyboard. Little in the way of darkness manifesting itself. A major-key hum seems to hang in the air. I find myself more drawn to the keyboard. This isn't prime Fall. Towards the end the guitar picks up and does a few noteworthy things. I don't think MES had full control at this point. I've finished my review and there's still a minute left. I predict...dinkiness.

Mess Of My - Like this already. Rowdy mash of bad chords. What we want. MES sounding a little more threatening. Entire song loping sideways. Slips into weird semi-gothic groove. Everything is better planned this time out. "I probably work for a record company!" He's really going here. Modestly righteous.

No Xmas For John Quays - A faster extension, this is some vicious party of a track. "You could say he was into nicotine and acid." Again the keys are doing what they should. MES screeches. "Why is it so?" Story unfolds. Christmas is a theme. This is some brutal holiday. Bass change-up in last 15 seconds is awesome!

Like To Blow - Evidently The Fall are still punk rock. Maybe they always have been. Keyboards still dinky. Better than Put Away because the guitars are doing dark, grimy things, and because the keyboard pulse is menacing rather than benign. And because it's a tiny bit after the beat, like a radar pulse.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a dream once that "Put Away" was a single for Jimmy Saville in the sixties, on the old Columbia label.

One listen to the lyrics would prove that this would have been awes.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Container Drivers - Band is clearly more confident. Step forward in drumming is especially noticeable. MES is more in control, both of the band and his delivery. He sounds like a merry torturer here. This is superb, the first time so far in the sessions that I've felt I'm falling with the band, into the vacuum-tunnel of MES' vision.

Jawbone & The Air-Rifle - Awesome, much better than the album-version. Vocals are clearer, and the lyrics, of course, stand out. Not that I can still make out more than about 50% of them. "ADVERTISEMENTS TURN INTO CARNIVORES!" OK, this final verse is like some high-point of lyric-writing. Great performance, need I add.

New Puritan - OK, now MES is the Priest. NOW he speaks and we quail. And oh that bassline. I'm turning this louder. "THIS I HAVE SEEN." Holy fuck this is possibly the most violently terrifying vocal performance I've heard from a British person. How old was he when he spoke these words? About my age, actually. Shout-outs to the guitars seem irrelevant but they're worthwhile. A keyboard pulse, ugly, develops into a spew. Guitars into a thicket. To have been in this band.

New Face In Hell - How do you follow up New Puritan? With an almost ornate, albeit still slightly dinky keyboard line! Major chords, happiness, a song that slyly undercuts (and yet justifies) its title. The band can still smile. And after you've been sucked into space and back, so can you. Smile, dammit. SMILE! Fine, keep quivering on the floor.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

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Miss Bannister (â•“abies), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Middle Mass - Starts out even more promisingly than the last session! This is...unspeakably amazing. It's like the entrance music for Satan. It's like the song that invents Shellac, but with scarier and less precise production. It's frighteningly linear, and it is something that can barely be fought. It only chooses to have respite because MES knows the cruelty of respite. Go on, believe that those jaunty major chords towards the end are there to please. I dare you.

Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul - Keyboards are an alarm. Vocals are punk but by now MES has worked out his relationship to punk and so he doesn't sound like he's trying too hard, or doing anything other than what is natural. Is that a demented sax solo? NOTHING SURPRISES ME

Hip Priest - OK, now this I am stoked for, because the album version is one of the great documents of recorded sound. Drums are as mystical as they ought to be. MES' falsetto sounds sly and jokey in isolation, as if he's holding something behind his back. Lots of space in this recording and a nice hint of feedback. Feels a little more improvisational. It's going to erupt, I know. Drums are huge, and they're still lying in wait. Two guitar chords into the first explosion are perfect...then a BASS RUMBLE. Mostly unaccompanied. This band knows what it's fucking doing. This is so loose and experimental and gripping. It feels like the knight and Death playing chess in The Seventh Seal except with the knight as the guitar and Death as MES. And Bergman as the rhythm section. This is the moment I realise...that it is not going to erupt. It is erupting, constantly. It doesn't appear to be moving even until it's smothered you. Until the weird distorted mesh-on-mesh effect late in the sixth minute. By which point you are bound in the spider's web and being slowly poisoned. High-pitched screams which are plinks from the strangler. This is the antimatter to New Puritan's charging train. The charging void. The charging anti-train. No survivors.

C'n'C Hassle Schmuck - You follow Hip Priest up because you have to, and you follow it up with something similarly alien. Swirls into a different tempo without much warning, and the guitar, instead of exploring a colourful path to death or genius or whatever Hip Priest explores, remains in the same foul place. MES sounds like he's having fun, at least. They're a fun band. Gather, kiddies, and carouse.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Gonna take a well-earned break now.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for doing this! Its inspired me to pull out the box and finally load it on to my iPod!

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

They're all first-listens, so my feelings, usually those of astonishment, are fully genuine, and fully fresh. Sessions 3 and 4 are eerily similar in their
barnstorming-opener-followed-by-long-3rd-track-that-actually-threatens-to-damage-your-mind way.

Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link


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